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Ron Paul: End Obamacare, Abolish the IRS, Eliminate Support for Big Government

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:56 PM
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Here he goes again making sense.



Dr. Paul has been consistent for 30 years. Any freedom loving, liberty leaning, Constitution-respecting American would be proud to have him as the leader of this country.

/TOA




posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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See my signature banner.


I haven't always supported him, because I didn't feel he was mounting a serious enough campaign, and I didn't feel he had a chance to win.

This time is different, and I will support him in every way that I can figure out!



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Oh look, a guy heavily invested in, and heavily funded by big pharma wants to end the closest thing to public health care we've ever had. What a non-surprise. oh, he wants to shut down the IRS, too? Soon as he starts working for free. Eliminate support for big government, roughly translated as increase public funding of private industry; Down with big government, up with MegaCorp.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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He has my vote and will offer my time for his campaign.

Go Go Dr. Paul!!!!!



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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I have to admit, I do like Paul. I like what he has to say most of the time and try to ignore his "squirellyness" ( is that a word) because I lean libertarian on many subjects. I just really dont think he has a snowballs chance in hell to win. If he did get in, he would be so beaten with opposition with each positive move he tried to make be would probably get nothing accomplished. We might even have asian-esque political fist fights televised though, and thats entertaining.


I know this much, I will absolutely not be voting for Romney or Obama


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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Oh look, a guy heavily invested in, and heavily funded by big pharma wants to end the closest thing to public health care we've ever had. What a non-surprise. oh, he wants to shut down the IRS, too? Soon as he starts working for free. Eliminate support for big government, roughly translated as increase public funding of private industry; Down with big government, up with MegaCorp.


And you have the evidence linking him to Pharmaceutical companies?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Like the new avatar!


The more that support Dr. Paul, the more the chance of America being prosperous again is in reach!

/TOA



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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Even if he were blocked at every step, it would serve to raise the publics awareness of just how entrenched the special interests are. Even if he could accomplish nothing more than a deadlock of government and a cascade of in-fighting it would still be an improvement.

Some of the folks in our Tea Party joked about finding a candidate that vowed to do NOTHING! Their whole agenda could be to go to D.C., do nothing, and make sure nobody else could do anything either. Since most legislation just ends up making things more convuluted and no real improvements ever materialize, then maybe doing nothing at all would be a vast improvement.


I think at the very least, a legitimate Ron Paul candidacy will open the eyes of more Americans, and maybe that is enough to get the ball rolling.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Oh look, a guy heavily invested in, and heavily funded by big pharma wants to end the closest thing to public health care we've ever had. What a non-surprise. oh, he wants to shut down the IRS, too? Soon as he starts working for free. Eliminate support for big government, roughly translated as increase public funding of private industry; Down with big government, up with MegaCorp.


Hiya, Fox! I don't expect you'll be the only liberty-hating, freedom-fearing, "everyone must be unequal equally" Socialist to visit this thread. But you are welcome here!

/TOA



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by macman
He has my vote and will offer my time for his campaign.

Go Go Dr. Paul!!!!!


Dr. Paul needs all the help he can get! The fascists have the media by a stranglehold and it will take word of mouth to break through!

/TOA



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Advantage
I know this much, I will absolutely not be voting for Romney or Obama


That's a start, at least! Thanks for posting.

/TOA



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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common sense for a country that lack common sense

ron paul for the win!

who ever controls that tax revenue controls this country and its government.

the buck stops at the government when it should be stopping at the people
edit on 10-6-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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I know for a fact that one of Paul's
ideas is to phase out Social Security.

Sorry Paul, you do not get my vote
until their is a written agreement
that every penny paid in by every
contributor willl get every penny back
that they put into it.

Just phasing it out will leave millions
to starve to death and without medicine
or food.

It's too drastic a measure without
compensation to ease the hardship.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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I think that is where the "phasing" comes in.

I don't think we should entirely do away with Social Security, but I think it needs to be optional instead of mandatory, and I think there should be a private option, such as making 401k plans more portable, and letting them substitute for SS.

I don't believe RP intends to just leave the elderly out in the cold, if his plan is anything like my plan, it would take 30+ years to slowly materialize and the transition would be relatively painless. Maybe a couple of little pinches, but nothing that would leave anyone helpless.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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If telling the U.S. government "you can have what I've paid into it in the last 30 years", meant I'd never have to "contribute" another dime, I'd do it. Any takers?

/TOA



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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social security aint there it is gone as soon as the greedy government gets its grubby hands on it

that money is not safe it has been stolen time and time agian.

and the fact is some government formula dictates how much you will get back and the sad true of it is everyone gets more out of the system than they pay in.

the government gets to decide who gets and when you can get it.

another fact of the matter is social security pays out nothing near to what private investment does.

and for those blah bankers will steal it or it will lose value there are a myraid of investments that will diversify and mitiigate that risk.

as opposed to the current system of the risk of government stealing it which really isnt a risk its a given.

i am in favor of privatization of social security and have that account federal insured just like checking and savings and moneymarkets.


goverment social security is a guaranteed vow of poverty not one of those people are living high on the hog

someone with a private account will be living somewhat more comfortably never worrying about some idiot president or congress stealing their cash and by some circumstance insured from loss.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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Even if he were blocked at every step, it would serve to raise the publics awareness of just how entrenched the special interests are. Even if he could accomplish nothing more than a deadlock of government and a cascade of in-fighting it would still be an improvement.

Some of the folks in our Tea Party joked about finding a candidate that vowed to do NOTHING! Their whole agenda could be to go to D.C., do nothing, and make sure nobody else could do anything either. Since most legislation just ends up making things more convuluted and no real improvements ever materialize, then maybe doing nothing at all would be a vast improvement.


I think at the very least, a legitimate Ron Paul candidacy will open the eyes of more Americans, and maybe that is enough to get the ball rolling.


Ahh very true.


Im just really concerned at the moment we dont have the time to allow "the public" to slowly get with the program. Things are already snowballing and everyone is conducting life as if the gravy train will never run dry. I see the same spending and no preparation regardless of what is so apparent concerning our economy and etc. I just fear that regardless of what is done in fed gov, the public wont care until they are living under a bridge and hungry. Id kinda like to prevent that and not support gridlock for example to wake anyone up.. as I dont like cold canned porn-n-beans much.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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Well, I happen to love Pork-n-Beans, and I have never tried the "porn-n-beans" you referred to, but it sounds great!


I agree, the gravy train is trucking along like nobody has noticed the bridge is out up ahead. The majority of people I meet in real life have no idea how close we are to losing the whole house of cards! In all honesty, every month is a surprise to me; I can't believe we have kept it afloat this long.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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www.usdebtclock.org...

for anyone who wants to see just how close we all are.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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It doesnt appear he is chucking out old folks into the streets to starve and die without medication by abolishing the unconstitutional so-called "social security insurance".

www.thepoliticalguide.com...

His idea is to privatize it.




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