Hey, coastalite, vor78, mishigas, Plotus, zenjewel, and kellynap43:

It is really great to see that there people that actually have common sense. I have starred all of your posts.

I must say that don't worry, some people here have no clue what they are talking about and will make up anything to try to get their point across. Just prove them wrong and laugh at them, and they will give up. It's happened before!!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

THERE IS NO REASON YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE VALID FORM OF PHOTO ID if you are a legal functioning citizen of this great nation. Anybody who argues otherwise must be an illegal, criminal, or just plain DUMB!!

In my area, to legally register to vote, you have to have proof of identity. If you have to verify your identity (like should be required) to register, you should definitely have to verify your identity to vote.

Originally posted by deesul69


THERE IS NO REASON YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE VALID FORM OF PHOTO ID if you are a legal functioning citizen of this great nation. Anybody who argues otherwise must be an illegal, criminal, or just plain DUMB!!

No reason? Lots of people dont carry photo id, and requiring them to do so to exercise their constitutional right to vote is a poll tax, unless you want the government to furnish them all for free.

Anybody who argues otherwise must be an illegal, criminal, or just plain DUMB!!

Again, this 'issue' is nothing more than prep-work for the GOP to claim that roving bands of illegal immigrants are why mtttens romney loses to Obama in 2012.

And so why do you suppose the Democrats didnt win in 2000 and 2004 if they are able to so easily manipulate the vote? Hmmmm?

Because the last Democrat in office nailed a fat chick with a cigar and lied about it!!

No amount of fraud could get around that one!!

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by deesul69


THERE IS NO REASON YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE VALID FORM OF PHOTO ID if you are a legal functioning citizen of this great nation. Anybody who argues otherwise must be an illegal, criminal, or just plain DUMB!!

No reason? Lots of people dont carry photo id, and requiring them to do so to exercise their constitutional right to vote is a poll tax, unless you want the government to furnish them all for free.

Anybody who argues otherwise must be an illegal, criminal, or just plain DUMB!!

Again, this 'issue' is nothing more than prep-work for the GOP to claim that roving bands of illegal immigrants are why mtttens romney loses to Obama in 2012.

You spent all this time since being proven wrong in yesterday's debate reading the Constitution, and this is all you could come up with?

Originally posted by deesul69


You spent all this time since being proven wrong in yesterday's debate reading the Constitution, and this is all you could come up with?

No, sir, you didn't 'prove me wrong'. You claimed so. Your opinion is not 'proof'.

Originally posted by Janky Red
Your ideas are a sign that the US is indeed headed for the dust bin of history.

You are part of the problem.

It's not my idea, it's over two thousand years old yet it is just as valid now as it was then. Already in this country we have roughly half the population that does pay income taxes working to support the other half that doesn't. It can't last. People that produce are getting tired of supporting people who don't. And politicians on both sides continue to spend like there's infinite money. Things are going to get really ugly in this country before there's any hope of them getting better. Look up hyperinflation in countries like Brazil, Zimbabwe, or Germany. It's coming here. People will starve, there will be food riots and roving gangs of looters looking for basic sustenance. The haves are not going to give up what's theirs without a fight. I'm not going to give up what's mine without a fight.

I'm old and overweight but I'm also smart, mean, and well armed. With any luck, when the real SHTF, it will be you in my sights one day and I can do my part to help solve the problem.

Originally posted by wasco2

Originally posted by Janky Red
Your ideas are a sign that the US is indeed headed for the dust bin of history.

You are part of the problem.

It's not my idea, it's over two thousand years old yet it is just as valid now as it was then. Already in this country we have roughly half the population that does pay income taxes working to support the other half that doesn't. It can't last. People that produce are getting tired of supporting people who don't. And politicians on both sides continue to spend like there's infinite money. Things are going to get really ugly in this country before there's any hope of them getting better. Look up hyperinflation in countries like Brazil, Zimbabwe, or Germany. It's coming here. People will starve, there will be food riots and roving gangs of looters looking for basic sustenance. The haves are not going to give up what's theirs without a fight. I'm not going to give up what's mine without a fight.

I'm old and overweight but I'm also smart, mean, and well armed. With any luck, when the real SHTF, it will be you in my sights one day and I can do my part to help solve the problem.

I know critical thought is part of the problem opposing you and your corporate masters.

And

ya some of your ideas are probably B.C, I won't argue that.


You are pretty full of crap, you're a kiss the master producer kind of guy, what a suprise, wow,
such an original idea.The poor, abused producers, are richer than they have ever been in history,
it must be nice to be brain washed a wasco?I am sure the elites and producers will come and
rescue you from being amongst the wretched commoners. When the producer get fed up with
being so abused, maybe they will hire the leeches to express their anger while they vacation
in Barbados.

Sounds good Wasco, shooting me will solve all the worlds problems, I am truly flattered with your
offer, maybe you can skin me and stone my corpse too.

The problem with this country is there are still too many squirrel eating, raccoon cap wearing, parrots who allow themselves to be locked, cocked and aimed at obsolete targets.

I sometimes call these types cowards. A coward is someone who will fight someone smaller and weaker than them with all their might. But let them meet someone their size or bigger and they turn into boot-lickers.

These people will go to absolute war against homeless people and people receiving welfare because those people are weaker than them. However they will gladly grab ankles and BOHICA, then turn around and kiss the arse of corporations, execs, etc, because those people are bigger than them. Thus they earn the term of COWARD.

You folks are worried about Shaquesha or Pedro voting too many times, while William Bush V laughs in your face and tells you he doesn't care what the votes say, he's still President.

Some of the people here are so enthralled to Rush, they're still tossing around terms like "liberal" as if it's really a insult! I dare one of them to acknowledge where the term "liberal" comes from. Let me include it for those who would be too lazy or stupid to research:


Wikipedia -

Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis, "of freedom")[1] is the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but most liberals support such fundamental ideas as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, free trade, and the freedom of religion.[3][4][5][6][7] These ideas are widely accepted, even by political groups that do not openly profess a liberal ideological orientation. Liberalism encompasses several intellectual trends and traditions, but the dominant variants are classical liberalism, which became popular in the eighteenth century, and social liberalism, which became popular in the twentieth century.

Liberalism first became a powerful force in the Age of Enlightenment, rejecting several foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as hereditary status, established religion, absolute monarchy, and the Divine Right of Kings. The early liberal thinker John Locke, who is often credited for the creation of liberalism as a distinct philosophical tradition, employed the concept of natural rights and the social contract to argue that the rule of law should replace absolutism in government, that rulers were subject to the consent of the governed, and that private individuals had a fundamental right to life, liberty, and property.

I'll bet many of you thought this was the definition and description of Conservatism...LOL! So turn off the Rush and Hannity and begin thinking for yourselves.

TPTB are treating you all like silly children. They're waving their left hand in front your face (poor people) while slapping you with the right. And like a silly child...you all can't realize it's the right hand that's smacking you.