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Apparently, 75% of Americans want to be Dragged Back to the Jim Crow Era

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:50 PM
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Both my grannies have photo ID's....

I will ask you again, what do you propose that is better? I have had to show photo ID for everything my whole life, I am used to it. Is it really that different elsewhere?
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:53 PM
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The argument that a law like this would prevent voter fraud is not sound. It implies that a photo id is impossible to fake.

Almost every member on this site can probably verify that they or someone they knew, possessed a fake photo id that allowed them to purchase alcohol while under the legal age. Whether this fake id was fully fraudulent or just one individual posing as another person with a valid id. They were capable of granting restricted access.

Are the individuals working at polling stations capable of validating the authenticity of the ID and/or the person presenting it?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Where did the Democrats find this broad?

Criticize Republicans about not wanting to bailout the auto industry.....drives a Jap car.

Doesn't realize that "illegal" immigration is a crime.

Now this?

And people make fun of Palin?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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I was just asking.

I do not know what I would do if I had to have an ID card.

Luckily we don't need them.

In the states you guys are screwed over so much.

All an ID card means is if its stolen you are ruined.

The best thing to do is not vote. After all the votes are rigged. Are they not?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Can tell many of you aren't living real life. Just met a guy from Ct who says there I'd cost like $60! Here in Fl they are like $50. When you're poor you don't have that money for voting. I know people who don't apply for welfare because they don't have I'd.


Funny, because an earlier poster said that in Fla the ID's were FREE.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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Proof like what?


Like anything stating you are required to show an ID in NY state even though it is against the constitution. That seems like kind of a big deal and if it were a real requirement, it would be posted on one of the many useful pages showing what is required to vote in NY state.

Did you not look at my link? That was proof you are not required to bring a photo ID to vote in NY state so you know...anything at all showing otherwise would be a real hoot.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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What you need to do in the US is ALL non government people should change their name to

John Mcfartypants.

An entire country of John Mcfartypants would be great.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 10:58 PM
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So we should just give up then? I don't know about you, but I didn't get a fake ID to get beer underage, I stood outside a gas station, and waited for a cool looking guy, that seemed around college age to come along. Then the female or females in the group worked their charms on him to buy it. No fake ID required there.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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WTF doublepost
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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WTF triplepost

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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reply to post by Cuervo


Thanks for the support friend.

I kind of feel like I am just preaching to the choir sometimes though you know? Only those interested in knowing the Constitution would care in the first place right?

Most of these people don't actually want to know anything, they are more interested in just 'having opinions'.

Oh well. If posting the blatant truth of history in their faces wakes one person up, than I'll consider it worth the effort.


Well, you and your friend are still erecting straw man arguments, since there are no poll taxes exacted. Maybe you two do not understand the concept of *FREE* Voter ID cards. Is that it? I'd be glad to help you, if that's the issue...



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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that wasn't a triple post.

it was a post where you claimed that you had to show state ID in your county to vote (eta: which, btw, is not true)

why did you remove it and pretend it was a 'triple post'?
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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dyn.politico.com...


Rocky start for DNC chairwoman



She’s accused Republicans of wanting to reinstate segregation and of waging a “war on women.” She has asserted, somewhat nonsensically, that the GOP wants to make illegal immigration — by definition against the law — “a crime.” She’s also been mocked for driving a foreign car after pounding Republicans for not supporting the American auto industry.



Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor-turned-media personality, wrote about Wasserman Schultz’s “rough start” in his email newsletter last week, saying, “It is reassuring to know that there’s someone standing by to step in, just in case Joe Biden needs time off.”


Lady is not all there.
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edit on 10-6-2011 by Carseller4 because: 5 second edit rule



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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No worries, if you made me mad, my post probably would have been deleted for T+ C violations.
I only voted in NY so far, I will be voting in canada soon enough. I am not sure how different it will be, as a new citizen here, I am required to carry my new photo ID citizen card now.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by mishigas
Well, you and your friend are still erecting straw man arguments,



That is an interesting term to use considering there is not one example given in this entire thread of one case of the type of voter fraud this is meant to prevent.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by iamcamouflage
The argument that a law like this would prevent voter fraud is not sound. It implies that a photo id is impossible to fake.

Almost every member on this site can probably verify that they or someone they knew, possessed a fake photo id that allowed them to purchase alcohol while under the legal age. Whether this fake id was fully fraudulent or just one individual posing as another person with a valid id. They were capable of granting restricted access.

Are the individuals working at polling stations capable of validating the authenticity of the ID and/or the person presenting it?


This is not entirely correct. A voter registration ID is already required. So you would be presenting both at the same time to establish that you are who you claim to be. While it would not cut down on all fraud, it would cut down on some. In the last Presidential Election Cook County (where Chicago is located) ran out of ballots. They had 30% more ballots than residents to begin with. Will this law help that problem. Probably not. But I'm for anything to increase the fairness of elections.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by TKDRL
 


that wasn't a triple post.

it was a post where you claimed that you had to show state ID in your county to vote (eta: which, btw, is not true)

why did you remove it and pretend it was a 'triple post'?
edit on 10-6-2011 by incrediblelousminds because: (no reason given)


Thank you for clearing up why there is a "double post" and a "triple post" responding to me with no original post responding to me, nor a 4th post responding to me.


If anyone needs to make up new "facts" to win an argument, they should really rethink why they are trying so hard to make an argument that the facts do not bear out. I will give them some time to find a blog that might claim they had to show ID to vote in NY too. Why just look at me linke to the rules for voting in NY. That would probably be to simple.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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My party?! I see you pull the Jack-ass card as much as you accuse me of pulling the race card. I'm voting republican this election... so how does that help me?

When I first heard this law being brought out as a prevention for voter fraud, I thought "There's nooooo way people are going to be stupid enough to believe that citizens are the ones responsible for voter fraud. No... freakin' way".

Then, of course, tons of people come trundling in from their Rush Limbaugh pods and actually believed it!

People are willing to compromise the constitution in order to what... stop Granny from voting?!

You guys are illustrating exactly how the two-party system gets two groups to fight over "A" so they can go and perform "B, C, and D" behind our backs. You ignore something huge just to appease to a paranoid crowd.

People on this site, of all places, should know better.


You keep trotting that same old "Disenfranchising Granny" argument when it has been debunked dozens of times in this thread. F-R-E-E Voter ID cards. Capiche?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by mishigas


You keep trotting that same old "Disenfranchising Granny" argument when it has been debunked dozens of times in this thread. F-R-E-E Voter ID cards. Capiche?


Are you saying you support the idea of government-funded free photo id cards?

Or are you claiming they already exist?



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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You are right, I saw 3 in a row and thought it was a triple post. In my town, I was required to show a photo ID along with my voter card to prove who I was at the polls. We also got rid of our police department, and divided the money between our fireman and ambulance services instead.

I have asked people repeatedly what they do where they live, and what they propose should be done besides the point. No one answers. Typical, people love to criticize, but never give a better solution.



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