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but still mindless morons (or paid trolls) will debunk it...
Originally posted by liejunkie01
I think that it is hilarious and ironic that people blame TPTB for using HAARP to upset humanity. It is these same people that blame it on TPTB, that are using information "sourced" from TPTB to say see I told you so.
Did I miss something? Will "they" actually let people use "their" own information to let people know that "they" are causing the catastrophes? Hmm somebody please explain?????
Common sense anyone?
ETA: Unless I totally missed something here.edit on 10-6-2011 by liejunkie01 because: ETA
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by lewman
Isnt natural news some type of crazy sensationalist news agency that seems to sprout some new story every day that will change the way the world thinks for ever.
No not at all, its a very trustworthy site by all accounts, It has 300k subscribers and 15 million hits a day.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by auraelium
I agree.
I have been looking for the smoking gun for some time. We just need the evidence. Thats all.
Originally posted by matadoor
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by lewman
Isnt natural news some type of crazy sensationalist news agency that seems to sprout some new story every day that will change the way the world thinks for ever.
No not at all, its a very trustworthy site by all accounts, It has 300k subscribers and 15 million hits a day.
Oh you have GOT to be kidding!! Notice this line at the bottom of every page?
"The information on this site is provided for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not intended as a substitute for professional advice of any kind."
Look, that site is out for sensationalism, pure and simple. The more outlandish they get, the more hits they get. P.T. Barnum was certainly correct.
Originally posted by auraelium
Its interesting how the EU officialy lists HAARP as a weapon in one of its audits.
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by matadoor
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by lewman
Isnt natural news some type of crazy sensationalist news agency that seems to sprout some new story every day that will change the way the world thinks for ever.
No not at all, its a very trustworthy site by all accounts, It has 300k subscribers and 15 million hits a day.
Oh you have GOT to be kidding!! Notice this line at the bottom of every page?
"The information on this site is provided for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not intended as a substitute for professional advice of any kind."
Look, that site is out for sensationalism, pure and simple. The more outlandish they get, the more hits they get. P.T. Barnum was certainly correct.
fair enough , pick one of the top 10 headlines and come back here and debunk it...edit on 10-6-2011 by auraelium because: (no reason given)
HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.
Originally posted by OccamAssassin
How about...
HAARP Connection to japan Earthquake .
We could try to debunk that.
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by matadoor
Originally posted by auraelium
Originally posted by lewman
Isnt natural news some type of crazy sensationalist news agency that seems to sprout some new story every day that will change the way the world thinks for ever.
No not at all, its a very trustworthy site by all accounts, It has 300k subscribers and 15 million hits a day.
Oh you have GOT to be kidding!! Notice this line at the bottom of every page?
"The information on this site is provided for educational and entertainment purposes only. It is not intended as a substitute for professional advice of any kind."
Look, that site is out for sensationalism, pure and simple. The more outlandish they get, the more hits they get. P.T. Barnum was certainly correct.
fair enough , pick one of the top 10 headlines and come back here and debunk it... or maby your too busy watching CNNedit on 10-6-2011 by auraelium because: (no reason given)edit on 10-6-2011 by auraelium because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ateuprto
This will be the first time that I have forgone my common sense and jumped into a haarp thread. Out of all the finger pointing the one thing I have yet to be presented by ANYONE is exactly HOW haarp is capable of causing movement within the Earth itself. I have read, in detail, exactly how haarp operatates and exactly the type of research that is being conducted with it. I have been presented with mountains of evidence as to what the haarp array(s) are capable of, and what they do to our ionosphere. I have yet to have one competent "haarp'er" explain to me how the technology could feasibly interact with our Earth's crust in such a manner that it could trigger tectonic movement or an earthquake of any sort. I would love to believe those that claim haarp is or could be responsible for ANY earthquake, however not one person claiming such as EVER provided a SHRED of competent research or science that explains how haarp could manipulate tectonic activity.
I have asked friends and family of mine who received doctorates from such places as MIT and Cornell, many of whom specialize in this type of research, and none of them could come up with ANY way in which haarp could or would trigger tectonic activity. Those of you who swear otherwise and start calling those of us who don't derogatory names such as "disinfo agent" and the likes really do a swell job of pushing INTELLIGENT and scientific minded people away. SHOW US SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE as to how haarp could be used in any way, shape or form to create earthquakes and I will be happy to lend you my ears. My fear is that a vast majority of those who claim so adamantly that haarp is capable of such things are confused and have not received any education outside of high school and/or a GED. That is not meant as an insult, only as an observation from years and years of reading proposed "theories" on how haarp is responsible for natural disasters.
Don't label me one of your silly derogatory "agents" of "the powers that be" because I am not, never have been and certainly never will be. Becoming hostile and or overly defensive towards those who choose to utilize RATIONALITY, DISCERNMENT and INTELLIGENCE is a sure fire way to have your arguments rejected by anyone in the position to confirm or deny such accusations.
In this case, there have been anomalies reported in the skies above Fukushima before and during the earthquake. This I believe. Scientists are now trying to study what caused said atmospheric effects. Immediately simple minds label it as haarp, not even thinking for a minute that the earthquake was the CAUSE of atmospheric disturbance, not the RESULT of atmospheric disturbance. This makes sense. Since the dawn of recorded earthquake history man has reported strange colors and flashes in the sky relating directly to earthquakes. To me, this implies that as tectonic plates shift, rub and otherwise move on the large-scale, they create electromagnetic disturbances that are reflected in our atmosphere. The release of this amount of energy is awe-inspiring, and we are still in the infancy stages of understanding all the forces and byproducts involved. Now to jump on a bandwagon and swear up and down this is haarp is just negligent behavior in my opinion.
Originally posted by matadoor
Originally posted by ateuprto
This will be the first time that I have forgone my common sense and jumped into a haarp thread. Out of all the finger pointing the one thing I have yet to be presented by ANYONE is exactly HOW haarp is capable of causing movement within the Earth itself. I have read, in detail, exactly how haarp operatates and exactly the type of research that is being conducted with it. I have been presented with mountains of evidence as to what the haarp array(s) are capable of, and what they do to our ionosphere. I have yet to have one competent "haarp'er" explain to me how the technology could feasibly interact with our Earth's crust in such a manner that it could trigger tectonic movement or an earthquake of any sort. I would love to believe those that claim haarp is or could be responsible for ANY earthquake, however not one person claiming such as EVER provided a SHRED of competent research or science that explains how haarp could manipulate tectonic activity.
I have asked friends and family of mine who received doctorates from such places as MIT and Cornell, many of whom specialize in this type of research, and none of them could come up with ANY way in which haarp could or would trigger tectonic activity. Those of you who swear otherwise and start calling those of us who don't derogatory names such as "disinfo agent" and the likes really do a swell job of pushing INTELLIGENT and scientific minded people away. SHOW US SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE as to how haarp could be used in any way, shape or form to create earthquakes and I will be happy to lend you my ears. My fear is that a vast majority of those who claim so adamantly that haarp is capable of such things are confused and have not received any education outside of high school and/or a GED. That is not meant as an insult, only as an observation from years and years of reading proposed "theories" on how haarp is responsible for natural disasters.
Don't label me one of your silly derogatory "agents" of "the powers that be" because I am not, never have been and certainly never will be. Becoming hostile and or overly defensive towards those who choose to utilize RATIONALITY, DISCERNMENT and INTELLIGENCE is a sure fire way to have your arguments rejected by anyone in the position to confirm or deny such accusations.
In this case, there have been anomalies reported in the skies above Fukushima before and during the earthquake. This I believe. Scientists are now trying to study what caused said atmospheric effects. Immediately simple minds label it as haarp, not even thinking for a minute that the earthquake was the CAUSE of atmospheric disturbance, not the RESULT of atmospheric disturbance. This makes sense. Since the dawn of recorded earthquake history man has reported strange colors and flashes in the sky relating directly to earthquakes. To me, this implies that as tectonic plates shift, rub and otherwise move on the large-scale, they create electromagnetic disturbances that are reflected in our atmosphere. The release of this amount of energy is awe-inspiring, and we are still in the infancy stages of understanding all the forces and byproducts involved. Now to jump on a bandwagon and swear up and down this is haarp is just negligent behavior in my opinion.
Thank you!! Finally a voice of reason in regards to HAARP!!
Originally posted by ateuprto
I have asked friends and family of mine who received doctorates from such places as MIT and Cornell, many of whom specialize in this type of research, and none of them could come up with ANY way in which haarp could or would trigger tectonic activity. Those of you who swear otherwise and start calling those of us who don't derogatory names such as "disinfo agent" and the likes really do a swell job of pushing INTELLIGENT and scientific minded people away. SHOW US SOME SORT OF EVIDENCE as to how haarp could be used in any way, shape or form to create earthquakes and I will be happy to lend you my ears. My fear is that a vast majority of those who claim so adamantly that haarp is capable of such things are confused and have not received any education outside of high school and/or a GED. That is not meant as an insult, only as an observation from years and years of reading proposed "theories" on how haarp is responsible for natural disasters.