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Originally posted by neo96
Private Healthcare is the best in this country and no one can deny that fact for we the people altho one could argue our us congressmans healthcare is substantial better than private care.
What is Single Payer?
Single-payer is a term used to describe a type of financing system. It refers to one entity acting as administrator, or “payer.” In the case of health care, a single-payer system would be setup such that one entity—a government run organization—would collect all health care fees, and pay out all health care costs. In the current US system, there are literally tens of thousands of different health care organizations—HMOs, billing agencies, etc. By having so many different payers of health care fees, there is an enormous amount of administrative waste generated in the system. (Just imagine how complex billing must be in a doctor’s office, when each insurance company requires a different form to be completed, has a different billing system, different billing contacts and phone numbers—it’s very confusing.) In a single-payer system, all hospitals, doctors, and other health care providers would bill one entity for their services. This alone reduces administrative waste greatly, and saves money, which can be used to provide care and insurance to those who currently don’t have it.
Health policy in Sweden is a national-level responsibility. Over the past 20 years Sweden has an average reinvestment of some 9.2% of its GDP annually on healthcare. However, around 70 percent of healthcare services are funded through local government taxes. In fact, Sweden's health care system is highly decentralized. Its 21 county councils are responsible for hospitals and GPs, while its 290 municipalities provide municipal care. In Sweden, the county councils and municipalities are also the main providers of healthcare, with only about 10% of all health services delivered by private providers.
All Norwegians are insured by the National Insurance Scheme. This is a universal, tax-funded, single-payer health system. Compared to France, Italy, Spain and Japan, Norway has the most centralized system.
Percent Insured. 100%. All Norwegian citizens and residents are covered.
Originally posted by neo96
So i am sitting here thinking to myself of the stupidity of a single payer system for healthcare.
Obama Care aka the care act
is exactly designed to do one thing to make healthcare so expensive and to break the system that the all knowing all powerful all benevolent entity known as the federal government come to the rescue to a problem for which it already created.
Private Healthcare is the best in this country and no one can deny that fact for we the people altho one could argue our us congressmans healthcare is substantial better than private care.
private healthcare works for the simply fact that is is profit driven and it makes it money counting on the health of younger people who can goes 10 or 20 years without using it and they finance those who do use it and the biggest reason it works it people pay for it so what i will call it is you pay for it care.
medicare is designed for those disabled and older people who do use their care on a daily basis which has strict government guidelines and rules and regulations and is non profit and they also pay for it with a clear difference between private care aka you pay for it care is that there is everyone using it unlike the period of time that most people do not use private healthcare.
medicaid is designed for those who cant afford healthcare and receive substantial less quality care than private healthcare and somewhat on par with medicare with exception those receiving it isnt paying for it those other people are.
So what we have here is:
private healthcare
medicare
medicaid
then comes along obama and his wonderful wisdom of obama care making people in the first time in this nations history buy a good or service.
many people who couldnt afford healthcare are now mandated to buy something they couldnt afford to buy in the first place so what will end up happening are two things.
people will be footing the bill agian for more than they previously were and the skyrocketing cost of healthcare that was already skyrocketing.
for those who think its a great thing think agian obama care is designed to crash the system it will kill off competition to the point that something will have to be done "never letting a crisis" go to waste obama and the powers that be will impliment a single payer system.
now for the big oil part
As it stands right now there are only a handful of oil companies competing to bring oil to the market exactly like
only a few companies offering healthcare.
we see the rising cost of both products and services reaching alarming proportions and both are squeezing americans like never before.
so people would you support a single payer big oil system? if not why sould you support a single healthcare option.
there is no competition for either market more people competing to bring those goods and services to market would drastically reduce cost to us.
the insanity in this country must stop.
thoughts? and please people its not the greed of big insurance its the greed of big goverment control that has created this situtation big government has squeezed the little guy out of both areas.
Managed Care
Paul Starr suggests in his analysis of the American health care system (i.e., The Social Transformation of American Medicine) that Richard Nixon was the first mainstream political leader to take deliberate steps to change American health care from its longstanding not-for-profit business principles into a for-profit model that would be driven by the insurance industry. In 1973, Congress passed the Health Maintenance Organization Act, which encouraged rapid growth of HMOs, the first form of managed care.
An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" or "Message Board Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.
not you man the poster who attempt to make a poster the topic of the thread with the personal insults