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posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 01:10 AM
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Yes well, he was not at all the mad pyscho he is perported to be. He was articulate, intelligent, patient, and thoughtful. He was an artist if you recall and I think he had an objective view of the world in which he could see how the dark darker of the human condition could be used for advantage. Turning a weakness into a weapon is powerful ability. His mind and his underlings seeded american military projects and theories that today are the starting points for farther reaches into yet darker parts of humanity.




posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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I think his biggest downfall came because of either drug abuse or Parkinson's, perhaps even slow poisoning. There is always the strong possibility that he was being influenced by outside forces, and revisionist history has given us a distorted view of what actually happened during the war years. We are led to believe that he was all powerful in Germany, but any genuine student of history will tell you that is not the case. He was, all along, beholden to certain industrialists and banking forces. Of course, we are led to believe that he "thought" those forces were the Jews, but obviously the Jews as a people were not the true threat, and there is little doubt that Hitler was quite able to make that distinction.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 04:12 AM
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very cool. the messages seem ok to me. or did i miss something?



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Yeah I know its been documented that his personal physician was actually giving him drug cocktails that were similar to methamphedamines and ofcourse you know about Jagermeister. He was the poster child for the savior complex.Have you ever read anything from Chuck Palaniuk? Theres a book called Survivor. Its absolutely how your describing him. He was hailed as this savior but in the background all his "experts" were making him take cocktails and medicines he didnt even know the names of, a lot of his speeches were not written by him, his media image is whats most similar as he was very likely nothing like how he was depicted in terms of political opinion,philosophically, and very likely even in his day to day personality. He literally became a god head for a nation of people wanting to believe. His backers are alot like Obama's today, not trying to draw parallels to the two mind you, just the people behind the curtain. His hands were tied just putting on a song and dance, he likely didnt even make the strategic and political decisions. It is more likely he had advisors circumventing him and going to the people who put him in power. Like any good story of righteousness, in the end its the god head that takes the fall, not the people who made him into it.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Its a start at the very least...

Now in what direction will it lead? We just have to wait and see...



or do something about it



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 01:24 AM
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I'm in New Mexico, which is a long ways from the NY area. While I don't recall if this is the same commercial, I'm sure I've seen one similar, and it's likely it was on Comedy Central because before we cancelled the cable, Comedy Central and Adult Swim, along with TWC were the only channels I looked at on a regular basis for a viewing period long enough to see a commercial.
So my point is, the same commercial or a similar one has been aired in at least this area, as well. The El Paso-Las Cruces NM area.
Cheers!



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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They did not come straight down. If a CD company was hired to do this as a contract they would not have been paid when it was complete. There is also not ONE shred of evidence that explosives were used. They still find bone fragments on roof tops in downtown but they never found a blasting cap or a charge that was supposedly used.



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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There is also not ONE shred of evidence that explosives were used. They still find bone fragments on roof tops in downtown but they never found a blasting cap or a charge that was supposedly used.


That has been reported...



posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Where is your proof? So, PENTBOM was a joke and 7,000 FBI agents were all in on it, right?

www.washingtonpost.com...



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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It's about facking time people started asking questions about what happened to building 7 that day... There's only so long you can keep people distracted from the truth... What is the truth???


Please... due tell... we're all so anxious to hear the response... If ever given...



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by AnteBellum
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I think they do need to look into this since several people said on record the building was 'pulled', a demolition term.

I believe it was a politician and a military officer.


It is not a demolition term.

My best friend has been in building demolition with his family for 20+ years, his dad and grandfather for much longer.

And they've never used the terms "pull it" "pulled" or any other variation of pull.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Where is your proof? So, PENTBOM was a joke and 7,000 FBI agents were all in on it, right?


Not necessarily, but if they were told if they found certain things to take it to certain people and keep their mouth shut under threat of imprisonment I'm sure they would.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 11:19 PM
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So all of them were told to keep quiet? Is that your theory? If you told a secret to 10 friends you mean no one would say anything. Do you have any EVIDENCE? not your words but hard freaking evidence that would shut people up. No, I am sure that there is nothing and your assumption must be correct based on our research of anti-OS website. Ignorance is not knowing who your enemy is. Sometimes, you learn your enemy is not any enemy but someone with different perception of an issue.

WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? Ten years later and there is not a fuc*%& thing.....move on.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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All I was saying was that people sign non-disclosure agreements all the time and usually honor those because there are penalties for not honoring them. On the topic, there is ample proof but one needs only to look at the joke that called itself the 9/11 commission to know why 10 years out there has been no action on it. All but the staunchest believers in the government's official story and people that get paid to support the official story believe it. More and more people are waking up to the fact that something is not right-architects and scientists even. the presence of thermate, the hasty way that the buildings remains were disposed of--there are a lot of reasons to question the official story.



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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Investigate building 7? Why? Debris caused the building to weaken then a progressive collapse happened...It makes more sense than a demolition team (which remained silent all of this time) was hired by elements of the government to enter the building for weeks without anyone noticing to set this up. For what? All to destroy information that could easily be disposed of without taking down the whole building? Plus Larrystein lost in profits due to the events, because the money has to go back into the rebuilding of Trade Center.
edit on 16-6-2011 by SkepticAndBeliever because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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LOL No doubt



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:43 AM
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Alright, Ive been around the block once or twice with this debate. Alright so no ones found a blasting cap, can I speculate,since your speculating that since there hasnt been any recovered that perhaps theyve already been disposed of? I mean how long did it take to clean all that up? Theres a lot of margin for where it could have all "disappeared" from the scene. Oh and so you know, just cuz they didnt exactly go straight down doesnt mean they went down in the same fashion as a building collapsing. They defied gravity in their plunge to the ground and this is a topic many times discussed and mathmatically deduced. I will also say I believe the idea of the planes possibly being remotely piloted is plausible. Ive seen compelling research on the identification of that long narrow bump along the middle of the planes underside. In that case we would be talking military hardware, though I still cant say I think military units loyal to the flag would have undertaken this epically baffling atrocity.
There is countless documentation from firemen,police officers at the scene,maitenance workers, and even the survivors themselves which correlates the theory of detonations. If thats not enough theres good footage of the windows popping a few levels below the free fall point. Before you say anything with respect to the windows critics I'd like to point out that while I'm aware of the fact that there would be a glass breaking force of wind traveling fairly near the free fall point to begin with, these windows are seeming timed and much lower than the level of which the air pressure sufficient to break windows out would be centralized on (as the rubble is falling I mean to imply).
I think its insufferable how stupid they think we are. If it was really a plane that hit the pentagon how come they didnt release the hotels parking lot survelleince cam to validate that claim? It had a birds eye view. Dont even get me started on the Pentagon. This was in both ways sophisticated and sloppy and I can honestly say I dont believe the two to be unrelated.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by AGWskeptic

Originally posted by AnteBellum
reply to post by Jugtalicus
 


I think they do need to look into this since several people said on record the building was 'pulled', a demolition term.

I believe it was a politician and a military officer.


It is not a demolition term.

My best friend has been in building demolition with his family for 20+ years, his dad and grandfather for much longer.


And they've never used the terms "pull it" "pulled" or any other variation of pull.



Ok so because THEYVE never used it, it is not a term used by some other joe-blow in the business as long? slighty shorter? even fairly new to the business? Whats your point? We have several people using the term in documented interviews vs. what your friend and his dad say?? Just saying man try to keep the rebuttals to a objective level or whats the point at all right?

edit on 17-6-2011 by Averysmallfoxx because: Editted my comment from the quoted section I am responding to.



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by coyotepoet
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Where is your proof? So, PENTBOM was a joke and 7,000 FBI agents were all in on it, right?


Not necessarily, but if they were told if they found certain things to take it to certain people and keep their mouth shut under threat of imprisonment I'm sure they would.


EXACTLY- A lot junk and debries, it takes experts to spot blasting caps that have been through a drop, probably takes experts to spot caps period, let alone with all the rubble. Theres so much space and time they had while we were off guard to get rid of it all that even if they didnt they easily could have and should have if they were smart....which it stands to reason they would be...right?



posted on Jun, 17 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticAndBeliever
Investigate building 7? Why? Debris caused the building to weaken then a progressive collapse happened...It makes more sense than a demolition team (which remained silent all of this time) was hired by elements of the government to enter the building for weeks without anyone noticing to set this up. For what? All to destroy information that could easily be disposed of without taking down the whole building? Plus Larrystein lost in profits due to the events, because the money has to go back into the rebuilding of Trade Center.
edit on 16-6-2011 by SkepticAndBeliever because: (no reason given)


First, how could you think that anyone smart enough or rich enough to pull this off would hire OUTSIDE guys to do this? You know how like in the mob when you get done robbing a bank, almost everyone who helped to do it gets wacked? You really think our government or whatever elements involved have a hard time tying up lose ends? And as I posted earlier in the thread they blew the idea of writing building 7 off as a collapse when cnn reported "live" that it had "collapsed" when in fact within the reporters view of the skyline where she said she was on top of a building to get the vantage point tower 7 is still very much up and not collapsed yet at all... Theres alot of sloppy mistakes and then once in a while you find curiously elegant pieces of evidence subtle as ever. Such as the alleged phone calls made from the planes when they were well over 10,000 ft, really? a phone call at 10,000+ ft?? Research that point, its like the chances of anyone getting through ONCE is like one in every 200 attempts or something, really absurd...



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