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F16 Crash Wisconsin With Chemical Nuclear Weapon?

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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www.wisn.com...




An F16 crashed in Wisconsin on Tuesday, causing the evacuation of residents within a one mile radius of the downed aircraft. Shocking eyewitness reports were broadcast live shortly after the crash with one witness claiming that the aircraft carried a nuclear or chemical weapon. The eyewitness, speaking to abc affiliate WISN, stated that he saw a different fighter jet flying circles around the crash site and that the crash was much louder than a sonic boom, more like an actual explosion. He then went on to say that some sort of munitions flew off the downed craft and hit a business close to ten miles away!

The eyewitness, who is a business owner in the area, further claimed that officials were going door to door, ordering evacuations due to the fact that nuclear or chemical weapon was on board.

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The official story now being reported by multiple mainstream news outlets is that a hazardous chemical called hydrazine was what caused the evacuation.

The fact that munitions hit a business ten miles away has also been left out of all new reports after the initial eyewitness testimony.

Was this a quick cover story for some sort of chemical or nuclear accident close call or were multiple eye witnesses completely off base?

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Hmm.


Reminds me of the "Super 8" trailer I saw at the movies the other day.





posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Hello: here's a fact for you .
We don't fly nuclear weapons.They are moved about the country by D.ept of Energy couriers in SST TEAMS( "Super Safe transports" diesel rigs teamed by badge carrying us marshals. and lots of training and guns).
(Not since the last big midair accidental loss of a weapon off spain (in the 1960's). Military aircraft are full of hazardous materials;Flares and conventional munitions.
(usaf MSGT. ret)
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by 46ACE
Hello: here's a fact for you .
We don't fly nuclear weapons.

(Not since the last big midair accidental loss of a weapon off spain (in the 1960's). Military aircraft are full of hazardous materials;Flares and conventional munitions.
(usaf MSGT. ret)
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Sir that is not true at all.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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I once saw a documentary. An Area 51 pilot crashed I believe the plane which was the predecessor to the Sr-71. I don't know its name. But he gave a cover-up story saying it had a nuclear weapon on board so that no one would go investigate the crash.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Hello: here's a fact for you . We don't fly nuclear weapons. (Not since the last big midair accidental loss of a weapon off spain (in the 1960's). Military aircraft are full of hazardous materials;Flares and conventional munitions. (usaf MSGT. ret)


Yeah, I'm just not ready to believe anything I'm told by the Military and although you may be in the service, I doubt that you would be told everything either.

Not intended for dis-respect on you personally, just a complete lack of faith in getting anything resembling the truth from HQ.


The real story will be what we are not told.

There will be cover up stories and political spin on this one.

Remember, we are nor important enough to know the truth...even if it happens in our backyards.



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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Care to expand? I believe the poster above you was correct: we do NOT carry Nuclear Weapons on board aircraft.
*especially not on fighter jets
*especially not on a training flight
*especially not over Wisconsin



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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we dont practice with nukes..as they said a fuel tank was broken off in the midair impact and crashed somewhere else then the aircraft went down no nuke.. fuel tank and airplane i hope none were killed in this accident



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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Right...

Whatever.
Strategic air command ( 46370 nuke weapons specialist.) 1978-1983
if it was A wIsconsin f16 it was one from my brother Inlaws air national guard unit.
I don't know of any state guard units with nuclear capability.
whatever...Don't know why I waste electricity here.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Trolling much ?

Check out: ATS thread on Barksdale Nuke incident not only flying nukes across US, but "loosing" them.

Now back to the subject. Wisconsin that is.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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I normally lurk on ATS, thought id reply to this so.. this is my first post!.

What crashed will be a test plane, They wont be carrying live munition during practice.
Possibly a new type of engine..



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Well this happened 2 days ago, according to the sources article. So I'm thinking nothing too spectacular, otherwise we all would have via Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Also, I didn't think articles more than 24 hours old classified as "breaking news"?!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by svetlana84
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Trolling much ?

Check out: ATS thread on Barksdale Nuke incident not only flying nukes across US, but "loosing" them.

Now back to the subject. Wisconsin that is.


(off topic defense)
I remembered that; it went completely against all prior nuclear surety rules.I still have no explanation for"Minot".A collosal systemic failure. there was no excuse for that incident.. Acomplete aberration. There is no way that could have happened when I was in a SAC weapons storage area..

To even move a weapon within the area from the storage "igloo" to the maint shop requires multiple telephone coordination and radio communications between munitions job control and the security police.Two cleared ahead of time technicians:

A "red"lock" and a "blue lock" (person) each knowing ONE of the necessary two lock combinations just to get keys to the structure from thedouble locked keybox and the classified "number of the day"

.you go down to the structure, meet the security cops who have swept the route. I.D. yourselves to the cops. unlock a padlocked phone connection box; plug in a "jack phone" (lineman's buttset)

talk to the security "controller": I.D yourself: " hello""This is TSgt Smith I'm going into IG#7"; he looks you up on the roster" if you are cleared he gives you a number: "okay 6": you give him the difference between it and the classified number of the day. If the number is "17" I'd just reply "11"; and hand the phone to the Next guy: " hello Tsgt Briggs I'm going into IG #7 "okay 9", "8"..he then hands the phone directly to the cop: "SSGT Williams here; They're good? got it"
open the structure hook up to and pull out the munitions trailer. re-secure the structure call security on the phone again "IG #7 secured" ;call job control on the radio. " prepared to roll"

Start the convoy (munitions control "kickoff"). Job control grease pencils the movement all the way to the shopon a constantly updated location board; Arriveathe shop;( Calll a "touchdown") showing that particular "clip in" or launcher # has changed locations to the maint bay.Somebody in the facility calls munitions control to confirm the arrival" munitions control, the "high bay" is "hot"; and now a "two man policy no-lone-zone" area.

Many,many people were involved. Thats the way it was supposed to work ( "78-83" anyway When Men were men : "SAC" was "SAC"; "TAC" was "TAC" and "mother MAC" got you where you needed to go.

Un official motto: " to err is human; to forgive is not SAC policy". officially: "peace is our profession".

Many,many people and authorizations were involved with any weapons movement: that's why "Minot" completely baffles me.

"troll" that.


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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:03 PM
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alearted my local news media who informed me that this may be a hokes they will check it out



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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checked this further one aircraft involved crashed into an empty summer cottage.no deaths or injurys..training flight



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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News Coverage



MADISON, Wis. -- The Air National Guard has grounded training flights from its Madison base following this week's crash of an F-16 fighter plane in Adams County.

Inspectors want to make sure there's nothing wrong with the fuel, equipment or procedures following Tuesday's crash that destroyed a vacant vacation home and narrowly missed an occupied house. No injuries were reported, but up to 50 people were evacuated from the area because of fire and smoke. The pilot ejected safely before the crash.




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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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You bet it was carryin'. It was on its way to attack Canada.
(Well, it was goin' the wrong way to attack Mexico!)



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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thanks for your answer!
And I officially take back my "troll verdict" and apologize". Was a quick shot of mine.
Thanks as well for adding the extra info in your reply. Shows me that you are really concernend.

As well you seem to have quite a knowledge in the field.
So I might ask you some questions about the F16 (which the thread is about):

Can they (F16) carry Nukes ? are they equipped to do that ?
It s rather a fighter than a bomber ?

I am asking because I have not found much info on the Wisconsin crash. So if F16 can't carry Nukes we could excluse it that the one in Wisconsin did carry some. (Would calm my nerves as well ;-)



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by svetlana84
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thanks for your answer!
And I officially take back my "troll verdict" and apologize". Was a quick shot of mine.
Thanks as well for adding the extra info in your reply. Shows me that you are really concernend.

As well you seem to have quite a knowledge in the field.
So I might ask you some questions about the F16 (which the thread is about):

Can they (F16) carry Nukes ? are they equipped to do that ?
It s rather a fighter than a bomber ?

I am asking because I have not found much info on the Wisconsin crash. So if F16 can't carry Nukes we could excluse it that the one in Wisconsin did carry some. (Would calm my nerves as well ;-)


I worked onthe the AGM 69A short range attack missile ( "sram") system for the B52 bomber. but any nuke capable aircraft hasto go through extensive tests to be"certified" as "nuclear capable": have to check the F16 production blocks and see if any blocks were ever certified as "nuke capable".

Seems some model( production blocks) were certified.: 27 0ct1980 f16's nuclear certified
www.f-16.net...

Calm your nerves anyway. hell I live here;
I can't/won't believe the air force has completely lost its mind since I retired...
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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You're correct that we do not transport them in aircraft because of the risk but fighters are equipped to deliver them if the military chose to. The F-16 is equipped to carry the B61 and the F-35 will be equipped to carry the B61 by 2015 I believe.



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