The Destruction of Human History...., page 2


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reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 08:00 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by Jakes51


Thank you for the reply.
Yes our collective human history is full of these types of acts. This is why I'll question modern academia's straight forward arrogance sometimes. There is noway for them to know what exactly has been lost. I'm pretty sure there were things that were destroyed that would amaze those who believe strictly in the linear progression of mankind's history.


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 08:11 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by skjalddis


I appreciate the content of your reply which only further proves that it isn't just the West. It happens all over the planet and by every culture/civilization.


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 08:17 PM by neo96
reply to post by SLAYER69


me too

mother nauture has robbed us and we have robbed ourselves as well.

mother nature is out of our control and to a degree war,tomb robbers and black marketeers rob us as well

just like the places and artifacts we are victims of circumstance.


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 08:19 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by Blackmarketeer


Another great location.
Our history is full of these losses. So again just how accurate is our known history? I'm sure Byrd or others will be stopping in soon to tell us how accurate things are believed to be


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 08:30 PM by neo96
reply to post by SLAYER69


still lost to history:

Noah's Ark – biblical ship
The Ark of the Covenant – biblical repository for the Ten Commandments
Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, lost following the invasion by Assyria in 722 BC
The Lost Army of Cambyses - an army of 50,000 soldiers that disappeared in a sandstorm in the Egyptian desert (lost 525? BC)
The lost dialogues of Aristotle (d. 322 BC)
The Holy Grail – biblical chalice
Thors Hammer


even mythological items do have some basis in fact in mankinds history


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 09:09 PM by AlienCarnage
I just think of the travesties that were committed during WWII such as looted treasures of countries ending up in the private collections of German officers, and if this happened in recent history, I can only wonder if anything from the library of Alexander ended up in private collections throughout the periods that eventually led to it's entire destruction. If any of it did end up in private collections, would it have survived to this day?

They have found medical instruments that were not much different from that which are used in modern operating rooms in Greece, I wonder if there were other medical discoveries or even cures that were lost due to war, invasions, etc of other countries in history

It is astonishing to think that history repeats itself, even in Egypt history was erased of past rulers, by newer ones. You have the subsequent burnings of the Library of Alexandra before its final destruction. Just about whenever you had a conquering army invade a place, they destroyed things that did not jive with the beliefs of their ruling class. (I include US in that as well, US politicians are the elected ruling class in this case.)

The amount of art that has been lost is astonishing as well. Art is a good indication of who people were, almost as much as a written record. Just look at the artwork around us today, and I think you will see that the artwork is full of the human spirit.

I hope my ramblings are easily understood.

Oh and almost forgot, another great thread Slayer, S&F


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 09:38 PM by pajoly
reply to post by SLAYER69


Great thread. It irks me when history shows speak in definitive terms. They find one Lucy and spin a story that weaves into an entire field of thought, all contingent on that one skull found with little context. Historical sciences (archeology, paleo anthropology, paleology, etc.) often acts as if finding one thing makes a complete record. So we hear silly things being presented as facts, like, the ancient Summarians were among the first civilizations with complex social systems, institutions, a written language, etc. INSTEAD of saying what is factually more accurate which would be, "Of the little we know, the ancient Summarians...." Because we don't know what we don't know.

Worse, science out of hand rejects things that don't fit into it's carefully crafted narratives of what was. So many out of place objects are ignored. I've yet to read or see a mainstream archeologist dare to address the incredible anamoly that is Baalbek. Maybe one or two crane in the world today could even lift the largest of those stones, much less transport them and fit them without mortar so tightly you can't slip a scalpel between stones.

Only now are we really starting to explore our world under water (2/3rds the Earth!) and we are already discovering structures that turn the conventional story of ancient civilizations on its head.

So instead of having the audacity of saying what was with arrogant certainty, I wish for some humility and honesty by always preceding statements with, "As far as we know..."

and by the way, yes, the loss of Alexandria still makes me mournful whenever I think about it. Indeed, preserving what was considered ancient back in 300 B.C. The mind staggers at the thought.


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 09:58 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by neo96


Good points.

I do think there is a thread here at ATS. They found that lost Army. Or they found a large enough remnant to know that they did get lost and most likely died of thirst. But back to the topic. Yes, Even for those who do not believe in much of that an accurate record would either dispel, confirm or collaborate a story/long held belief's genesis.

Sometimes the truth hurts but I consider it like some medicines.
It's good for you but tastes bad


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 10:25 PM by SLAYER69
Originally posted by facelift
reply to post by SLAYER69


The ones you mentioned are definitely on top of the list...


A little closer to our day and age would be the Pillaging of Egypt via Dr. Hawass - the criminal...


I'm not a big fan of Hawass. He seemed a bit too shifty for my tastes.





In addition, the disappearance of The Book of Threads seems like a monumental loss to many as well...




Tragic!



reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 10:30 PM by Hessling
reply to post by neo96


“The principle goal of education is to create men who are capable of doing new things, not simply of repeating what other generations have done - men who are creative, inventive and discoverers” - Jean Piaget


Right on neo96!

So why do we keep repeating the same mistakes?

Why do we ignore the very lessons which SLAYER69's post presents to us? Ancient knowledge. Ancient knowledge that could enlighten all of us and make this a much happier world. Ancient knowledge that has either been forgotten, or deliberately destroyed?

There are no easy answers. We simply have to keep trying. Each in our own way.

Mucho gracias for the reply!


reply posted on 9-6-2011 @ 10:54 PM by facelift
reply to post by Hessling


Why do we ignore the very lessons which SLAYER69's post presents to us?





How about thinking for yourself..?


Whether he is right or wrong, there's no need to come off like a tool...it's this mentality that promotes group think...


Just Say No to Group Think...



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