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Going Rogue: NATO War Crimes in Libya

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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This is an obvious propaganda article. As was already stated they are rebels, not NATO soldiers. NATO is only associated with the rebels on the basis of removing Gaddafi from power. Further proof is given in the update to the article at the bottom when they begin to praise Gaddafi for releasing prisoners etc and then they go to say they even have this video proof.
As well, the other news media outlets are reporting this the other way saying that it's Gaddafi that is promoting his soldiers to rape and torture.
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Lol whats this? we have a east libyan rebel spokesmen on ATS believing every single word from the mainstream news press?





As well, the other news media outlets are reporting this the other way saying that it's Gaddafi that is promoting his soldiers to rape and torture.


Sir, the reason the western mainstream outlets are reporting Gaddafi that is promoting his soldiers to rape and torture. Is because reporters are paid to lie, and to promote the war in libya, selling the war to the viewers, just like with iraq and other wars in the past.




This is an obvious propaganda article. As was already stated they are rebels, not NATO soldiers. NATO is only associated with the rebels on the basis of removing Gaddafi from power.


Oh really an obvious propaganda article says so a rebel spokesmen, the revolution in libya started in east libya on Feb 17 is manufactured by the globalists, even if the rebels do win, the new leader will be a puppet to america and Britain.

The reason for the revolution in libya is because of the resources, i cant believe some here on ATS are still supporting the terrorist goons in libya.




posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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I am so sick of people just opening their mouths and saying what ever they want, with ZERO regard for proof or facts.

You made the assertion, now back it up.


Give me proof that the media is paid to promote the war in Libya ... I don't want some diluted BS storm that you have vacuumed up from conspiracy sites.. I want proof that they are being paid to promote the war in Libya...

If by chance you are unable to produce the PROOF (no hearsay from mentally unstable people)

I already know you can't produce proof.... I'm not expecting any more than some back woods BS, with a side of conspiracy propaganda!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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I have proof and already there were threads based on the issues of libya way back in march on libya and the reasoning for the war, if you dont like alternative news sources why are you here defending the globalist agenda?



Give me proof that the media is paid to promote the war in Libya ... I don't want some diluted BS storm that you have vacuumed up from conspiracy sites.. I want proof that they are being paid to promote the war in Libya...


Why should i give you proof that the is paid to promote the war in Libya? they already are promoting the same way they have been doing it with iraq, you are closed minded.





I am so sick of people just opening their mouths and saying what ever they want, with ZERO regard for proof or facts.


Since your a newbie use the search button.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Ok give me the proof that the MSM is being paid to support the war in Libya.

Why , because you dont have it.. Your in the club " My life is boring, so i make stuff up to fit into a group" period!
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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Here you go

There are more sources then just these two, freedomsphoenix is a radio news show from phoenix, they also bring up news articles by the major mainstream news outlets.

Freedom Ph
From RT
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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Here you go

Freedom Ph
From RT




You're trying to support one source of Propaganda with other sources of Propaganda? shheesh so much for objectivity.

Also you do realize that RT is the Russian Media Mouthpiece for the Russian Government..... right?


Who's next?

PressTV?




posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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Here you go

Freedom Ph
From RT




You're trying to support one source of Propaganda with other sources of Propaganda? shheesh so much for objectivity.

Also you do realize that RT is the Russian Media Mouthpiece for the Russian Government..... right?


Who's next?

PressTV?




So you support the globalist mainstream western news outlets? that lie about the unemployment rate numbers, lied about the war in Iraq?





Also you do realize that RT is the Russian Media Mouthpiece for the Russian Government..... right?


And do you realize that CNN,ABC,CNBC,MSNBC,BBC And all other western news outlets are Media Mouthpiece for the american and British Government right? did you know that ?


I guess not apparently
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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after PROVEN stuff like this
who in their right mind could believe any of the WESTERN PROPOGANDA?
like the Viagra lie....sheeesh

Nato AND Al CIA duh fighting together like the truthers always said
You can't make this stuff up.



The day after Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Kuwaitis living in the US hired the public relations firm Hill and Knowlton – a job worth $1 million a month. This was the biggest ever contract in the history of public relations to improve the image of their corrupt, oil-rich regime.

The story of how Iraqi troops, in the first days of the invasion, went into Al-Adan hospital, tore the sick babies from incubators and left them on the cold floor to die was graphically told to Congress on November 1990 before the crucial vote to send US troops (passed by about 5 votes).

What the audience didn’t know however was that the 15-year old girl who made the moving, tearful testimony was none other than Niyirah al-Sabah – daughter of the US Ambassador to Kuwait. She had allegedly worked as a volunteer in the maternity ward of the hospital. But nurses who live in the two story white building opposite the hospital in Kuwait City claimed that they had never seen the girl before in their life.

The entire move towards the Gulf War had thus been motivated by a blatant lie. The girl had been “trained” by Hill and Knowlton. The renowned international human rights group Amnesty International took out full-page newspaper spreads to publicise the babies incident. It had unwittingly (and not for the first time) transformed itself from a charity to a propaganda tool. Andrew Whitley of Middle East Watch described the story as a fabrication but it took months for the truth to come out. President Bush mentioned the incubator incident in five of his speeches and seven senators referred to them in speeches backing a pro-war resolution.

Highly exaggerated reports of thousands of deaths were accepted uncritically, as the PR firm using Kuwaiti contacts inside the country smuggled 24 videotapes to a hungry, unquestioning and gullible mass media.

musliminsuffer.wordpress.com...


though shalt not bare false whitness it is said

NATO neeeds the money.....like hoes do


PS
then there is the Jessica Lynch STORY
OH, and PAT TILLMAN murdered by his own as proven by ARMY SURGEONS
the SAS dressed as muslims blowing up coalition troops
same old same old
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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You can add me to your "FOE" list all you want no sweat off my pair.

FYI...

I take everything and anything I read no matter the source with a large grain of salt. That includes but limited to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, RT, PressTV, BBC, Pravda and FOX etc etc etc.

They are all suspect in my book.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Senator Faircloth.
OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR LAUCH FAIRCLOTH
Senator Faircloth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.


from the link in my above post..from the senator too....obviously muslim propogander



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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They're all suspect in my book too, but some of the news reported are accurate and you must be able to tell propaganda from non propaganda. Try seeing the bigger picture.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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www.gulflink.osd.mil...

another link to senator faircloth's speech


PS

Ted Gunderson Former FBI Chief – Most Terror Attacks Are Committed By Our CIA And FBI

musliminsuffer.wordpress.com...

Straight from the horses's mouth?


just saying this is how we role in the west
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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Wait a second I thought the media was owned by the Jews???
It would seem rather stupid for them to throw themselves into the fire now?? Or you could just be babbling nonsense since a news group like in the op is shoveling their agenda forward



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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Why is this a "NATO" war crime. NATO isn't at war with Libya! If the people that live in Libya are doing this because there is a "civil" war going on let the people of Libya take care of the issue. All NATO is doing is wasting they're time blowing stuff up for people that can't blow it up for themselves. It's a civil war, so again, why is it a "NATO" war crime? Are NATO soldiers the ones who are running the rape parties? I don't think so, but that's ok, blame NATO for the problema in a country that rape would never happen in if NATO wasn't there right?

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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Everybody defending NATO and these rebels. I want your opinion on this. Don't beat around the bush. Don't tell me this link is propaganda because it's documented by people in Libya during the time
richardbrenneman.wordpress.com...

“Because mercenaries from Chad and Mali are presumed to be fighting for him [Gaddafi], the lives of a million African refugees and thousands of African migrants are at risk. A Turkish construction worker told the British radio station BBC: ‘We had seventy to eighty people from Chad working for our company. They were massacred with pruning shears and axes, accused by the attackers of being Gaddafi’s troops. The Sudanese people were massacred. We saw it for ourselves.’ ”

"Black people who would have not otherwise ever connected with one another have been able to do so for more than forty years because of the educational and cultural conferences that Qaddafi has sponsored. The only requirement for participation was that they be willing to commit to work towards the ongoing development of Africa–all of Africa and wherever Africans are. Mr. Qaddafi to this day continues to assist Black political organizations in an effort to keep people of African descent able to exercise their right of self-determination."

"Meanwhile, on the Continent, Africans not ready to kowtow to France, the United States, or other former colonial powers maintain their independence thanks to Qaddafi, the former head of the African Union. Qaddafi was named African Leader of the Year in 2009. Qaddafi provided the African National Congress and Nelson Mandela the wherewithal to defeat apartheid in South Africa. In short, if you want to stop Black people, then one key move is to stop Colonel Qaddafi."

I'm not a computer savvy person I don't know how to quote it from the article but these are quotes people need to see!


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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Canadianpride420
Everybody defending NATO and these rebels. I want your opinion on this. Don't beat around the bush. Don't tell me this link is propaganda because it's documented by people in Libya during the time
richardbrenneman.wordpress.com...



agree with you i am surprised the amount of NATO defenders and rebel supporters if there was a GOP president like bush in power you would have a different response from some of the ATS users, i guess alot of the of the posters on here must be obama supporters in secret.

Since the way they have re acting to my response how the war in libya and the revolution is manufactured and its all about banking.




alots of pro east libyan rebel supporters on here
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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The door swings both ways in terms of atrocities, and the situation in Libya has been hazy from the get go. Some have brought up the Balkans in this thread, and I have to say Libya is looking a lot like what took place in the former Yugoslavia. People are still trying to rehash what went on over there. Who was right and who was wrong, and on and on. Didn't NATO come out and say that rebels will be targeted if they participate in atrocities and violent reprisals against the opposition?

Libya rebels warned that Nato will use force to stop revenge attacks


Whitehall officials said that the "same assets" that are currently waging air strikes on Col Gaddafi's regime and its forces would be unleashed on the rebels should they take revenge on towns and populations that have so far remained under Col Gaddafi's control.

It is the most explicit warning yet that the international coalition enforcing United Nations 1973 resolution has not written a blank cheque to the rebels as they launch offensives against the regime in Misurata and eastern Libya. But officials said the National Transitional Council (NTC), which represents the rebel movements had given repeated assurances that they would not seek to punish government sympathisers in the aftermath of victory.


We shall see if the rebels hold up their end of the bargain? Still, if the atrocities by the rebels mentioned in the OP is indeed happening? Why is not all over the news? It is significant if a group backed by NATO is targeting civilians in wanton violence and mayhem? I reserve judgment until I see more. Just as the door swings both ways with atrocities, it swings both ways in propaganda as well. Lets play it by the numbers, and take every iota of information coming out of Libya with a grain of salt.

The international community took a controversial step in responding to the matters in Libya, and intrigue is bound to arise from it. Just like the situation that took place in the Balkans. To put it bluntly, I am in the dark about why the international community is involved in Libya, who these Rebels/Terrorists/Freedom Fighters really are, and what the grand scheme is when the guns go silent? There is a lot of gray presenting itself in Libya. It is to soon to start pointing fingers, and to draw conclusions.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Ahh my lowly foe it is not a matter of supporting the Libyian Kinietic action. It is calling out the source of this thread as some funny agenda driven drivel. I for one see no reason for the US to be interfering with Libyan politics. But with a Dem in the WH all the anti-war folks arent getting paid like they were when Bush was in office. For all I care Africa could sink into the ocean. But the sheep don't want to see so be it, it is not my problem. I see with more then just my eyes sir and I recommend you look a little deeper at what is being brought forward.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Evola
But the rebels are fighting for democracy, human rights, internationalism, and secularism. We should all be like these brave little soldiers fighting against the mean old dictator Gaddafi. They're the paragons of virtue, not rapist.



That's rich! You make an excellent point, in that those were the SAME things I heard from these bozos decrying NATO involvement NOW back when they were agitating FOR NATO involvement in the beginning!

Some folks just can't be MADE to be happy!

As I recall, I specifically listed results such as this among my reasons that we should NOT get involved in Libya back then - not the activity on the ground over there, but these changed reactions from HERE, now.

Bunch of whiners!

Fight yer OWN damn wars from here on out, OK? Don't cry and whine and wring your hands and beg someone ELSE to get involved, then trash 'em when they do - get YOUR OWN damn hands bloody if you're so hot for war!



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