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Court: Dad can paste daughter's face on porn photo

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by boondock-saint


but it isn't:

simulated childporn by an adult.


its a perverted father who obviously lusts for his daughter and rather than molesting her or worse he found photos of adult bodies (not that of 13 year olds like his daughter) and pasted her head on the bodies & took care of his urges so to speak.

who's to say he won't grow out of it?

do you know how some therapists treat obsessive compulsive disorder? by having them role play the 'terrible, awful' things they think so they realize that they could never bring themselves to do what they're thinking of. Sometimes people can't deal with their problems unless they confront them. I'm not saying thats what happened here or that it would be the appropriate treatment however I can see that its possible that is what the father was trying to do.

I look at that situation and compare it with things I've heard about happening in nearby towns etc & I think at least this girl had a chance of living a normal life, maybe her father would have controlled his perversions or got over them completely & then she still gets to have an unbroken family... But because everything was brought to light & the family dragged through the court process the trauma from that will take some serious healing for that family to be a family again.

There is another aspect to this which is about what he is letting soak into his subconscious & that the very act of making these pictures is adding fuel to the fire that is the undesired behavior in the first place...the father could very well become worse through these activities, especially if it normalized the scenario for him.

peace,
-Bob
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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It's morally wrong but shouldn't be worthy of prison time, as the people in this thread who let their emotions get the best of them seem to be proposing. It should definitely result in getting his kid taken or something of that sort.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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If you take away the devices of non-violent non-victim pedophelia, the rape WILL increase because the crime is equated, so why wouldn't they just rape them instead of doing the non-violent, non-victim crimes? How is this "protecting the children"? Or are you just pissed and disgusted and being vindictive?
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I will try to answer your question. Somebody has probably done that before, but I don't have the time to go through all the pages.

Pedophilia is a branch of sociopathy. The chances of "curing" the disease are virtually nil. Any mental health expert who says otherwise should guarantee the public's safety by going to prison with the offender if a relapse occurs. I know of no such case ...

Sooner than later the pedophile will want to enhance the "virtual experience" with a real one. They are all walking time bombs, and should be put out of their misery.

I hope this helps.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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ok so because of the technicality that cant get him on child porn charges

why not incest

hes getting off on his daughters face, and the courts allow it

while prosecuting marijuana users

this world is horrible


going back and reading only a few posts REALLY disgusts me

how can people condone this in any way shape or form and actually defend this situation

wtf is going on
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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I'm not condoning the guy pasting his daughter's face on a pornographic picture. He's obviously a sick and twisted person. But that's for his psychologist to determine, not the courts. I'm a firm believer that, any law that does not directly protect someone from having their constitutionally protected rights violated by the acts of someone else, is unconstitutional and should not be enforced.

I see no way that pasting anyone's face (even his own daughter's) on a pornographic picture violates that person's right to life, her liberty, or her pursuit of happiness.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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So you want to punish people for crimes they haven't actually committed yet, and may never commit, just because they are statistically more likely to commit them??? Wow...

Gun owners are statistically more likely to shoot people. Maybe we should outlaw guns...
Bad marriages are far more likely to end in murder/suicides. Maybe we should mandate all couples that argue be forced to go to marriage counseling...

We are a free society, and no one should be punished for crimes they haven't actually committed...

Having said that... if he touches his daughter.... FRY HIS ASS!!!!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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some things make me go mad.
he is a pedo!
he has sex fantacys over his 13 year old dauter.
he wont to fook his own kid.
and they think its ok?
but they take all the othere right we have off us?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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I post pictures of ATS members heads on bodies all the time. Yes I am perverted. I have a little collection going. Nothing wrong with being perverted. Just don't act on it.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
The Judge did what he had to do. There is no law "yet" that says you cant fap to photoshop of family members. Because really, it had not been invented "yet" but it probably will sooner or later. nThe judge rules by the law and by legality. There was nothing that constitutes a crime in the books i agree. But again people are saying it is not that big a deal at the same time is umm... well creepy. This was the precursor to something he may very well act upon. The judge CAN rule he sees mental help and therapy. This is not in a domestic court situation and sadly something usually has to happen first for that to take place.


Honestly? This case ALONE should be the reason why it can be made illegal.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Did he admit to altering said computer images, for the purpose of depicting his 13-year-old daughter in a sexual manner?

If so, then he is scum in my mind. An act such as this speaks volumes about his state of mind, including his desire to view his own daughter in a sexual context. This is not something any sane, loving father would do. This is not just thinking about something.

If his guy walks, then I think it would be within the interests of that child (who's interests I put first), to have a restraining order placed her own father until that child reaches adulthood and consents to further contact. At the very least I think that he is unfit to be a father.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Wow, this I gotta say is just absolutely disgusting. What in the world was the judge smoking to make him rule its alright to see HIS OWN DAUGHTER's face posted on a pornographic picture?! Ugh. There is something sick and twisted going on...



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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"Although we may find such altered images morally repugnant, we conclude that mere possession of them remains protected by the First Amendment," Justice Franklin Elia said in the 3-0 ruling.

Read more: www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2011/06/08/BA251JRESO.DTL#ixzz1OqHKedh8Someone went to college in California eh?
Thank goodness he can't have an assault rifle.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:03 PM
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*COUGH* the bibles man made to *COUGH* There is some smart crap in there, but a good deal of stupid crap too. religion is man made faith is man made god is man made and yes love is man made. I like to think love is the rule and guide of my life. not saying I'm any good at it yet but practice makes perfect.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
I post pictures of ATS members heads on bodies all the time. Yes I am perverted. I have a little collection going. Nothing wrong with being perverted. Just don't act on it.


It was his own kid's head, placed on images normally associated with stimulating personal, sexual arousal. I find that extremely perverted.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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Surely if he was a PEDO, he would have put his daughters face on an underage teen's pic? So maybe he's not a Pedo, but just one of the probably tens of thousands of fathers involved or fantasizing about INCEST?

On another note, Americans consider sex with another under 18 has 'child' sex, yet in many countries the age of consent is 16 (such as my country) and lower elsewhere. Does that make us all Pedo's in we LEGALLY have sex with a 16 year old, or even we only THINK about some hot 16 year old we'd like to...?

Not justifying what this guy did, as she was only 13 and the line has to be drawn somewhere. I'm only responding to those that include anyone between 16 to 18 and label people Pedo's that have thoughts about them.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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I thought Klaus Kinski was dead.

Growing up Nastassia must have been weird. And then there's Charlotte Gainsbourg. If I had to be one of them, I would prefer to be the daughter of Serge Gainsbourg. At least he was a great musical talent. Of course Kinski was a pretty good actor. Hopefully both of the daughters inherited a lot of money.

Here's a treat in reference to the subject matter. People who understand french will be delighted by the double entendres in it.

At the time Serge fantasized about France Gall, who was not his daughter, but who was someone's daughter. She didn't understand the double entendres in the song and was mortified when she found out that the song she thought she was singing about a little girl who loved anis (pronounced like Annie) flavored lollipops (sucettes), was actually about fellatio.

The song is a masterpiece of musical poetry and ingenious ambiguity. As long as people control themselves, fantasies are free and unlimited, in my opinion.

Here's a translation of the words of the song. They read very innocently, as the innocent France Gall sang them, not knowing the underlying idea that makes the song, as sung, so delicious.

www.eggparm.com...


Annie likes suckers
The anise flavored suckers
The anise flavored suckers
Of Annie
Give her kisses
A aniseed taste
While the creamy sugar
Flavored with anise
Sinks in Annie's throat,
She's in heaven.

For a few pennies, Annie
Has her Anise suckers
They are the color of her big eyes,
The color of happy days

Annie likes suckers
The anise flavored suckers
The anise flavored suckers
Of Annie
Give her kisses
A aniseed taste
When on her tongue,
All but the little stick is done,
She runs as fast as she can
Back to the drugstore.





edit on 10-6-2011 by ipsedixit because: "in honor of" changed to "in reference to", to correct a poor choice of words caused by hasty assembling of the post.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:12 AM
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The thought crime of pedophilia elicits the thought crime of murder. This violent reaction is a good reason to have a separate prison for pedophiles.

I think we'd do better if we realized we are primates.
en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:12 AM
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My country has a "close in age" exception for people who are over 16, and under 18. This still protects people from predatory adults to a greater extent, but acknowledges that older teenagers are often going to be sexual active.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:12 AM
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First Amendment.

So long as no other laws are broken, first amendment has you covered for just about any sort of depravity.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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I've got news for you: The Bible is man-made, and it's not even that well made.



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