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Court: Dad can paste daughter's face on porn photo

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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The problem with letting this scumbag off the hook is the next time he will hurt somebody. This is a prelude to what he will become. I fear for his daughter




posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by felonius
Personally, a family member should take this sucker and feed him to the hogs.


when you were 14 yrs old and jerked off in your
bed at night to the thoughts of your 13 yr old
girlfriend or a hot girl at school, were you not
committing the same offense?
Your 13 yr old gf was underage.
Should somebody have fed you to the
hogs then ???

between birth and present day,
about 99% of us have committed
this very same act. Yet some
stand up high and mighty and have
a holier than thou attitude.



you think its the same when 14 year old boy thinking of a 13 year old girl...thats the same like when a father is w*** off on his own child??

seriously...wtf?
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

I'm leaving this thread, it is void of intelligent conversation.


Honestly, I believe that whether they have differing opinions, everyone is pretty intelligent and were having an adult conversation until you came in talking about Lady Gaga and a large woman wearing tight clothes disgusting you. I'm sorry that you cannot take the ridicule that you tried to project onto others.



Keep parading around with a gavel in one hand and a self-ignited flaming "holy book" in the other, it's getting you places real quick.


Shows how much you know. Makes me laugh honestly.

I'm sorry for getting off-topic.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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It's quite disturbing but he is allowed to do this via the Constitution. I'm not justifying his behavior or condoning it but this is the root of the problem we are in today. People feel the need to put their noses in everyone else business and pass judgement. Though one might argue that if he's posting pictures and thinking/feeling this way what's to stop him from attempting or actually fulfilling the act, he hasn't. It's a double edged sword and you can get cut on both sides...And besides, I thought God was supposed to do all the judging not next door neighbors or Hardee's employees...



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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The Judge did what he had to do. There is no law "yet" that says you cant fap to photoshop of family members. Because really, it had not been invented "yet" but it probably will sooner or later. nThe judge rules by the law and by legality. There was nothing that constitutes a crime in the books i agree. But again people are saying it is not that big a deal at the same time is umm... well creepy. This was the precursor to something he may very well act upon. The judge CAN rule he sees mental help and therapy. This is not in a domestic court situation and sadly something usually has to happen first for that to take place.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

I'm leaving this thread, it is void of intelligent conversation.


Honestly, I believe that whether they have differing opinions, everyone is pretty intelligent and were having an adult conversation until you came in talking about Lady Gaga and a large woman wearing tight clothes disgusting you. I'm sorry that you cannot take the ridicule that you tried to project onto others.



Keep parading around with a gavel in one hand and a self-ignited flaming "holy book" in the other, it's getting you places real quick.


Shows how much you know. Makes me laugh honestly.

I'm sorry for getting off-topic.
edit on 6/9/2011 by freakjive because: (no reason given)


You clearly have nothing, dude, keep picking and choosing things to argue that have nothing to do with the points I have made because in the end you have absolutely NOTHING.

~~~~~One of you intelligent folks answer this question for once, please! It's the fifth time I've asked it and you all jsut handily skip over it and argue about metaphors that you clearly are incapable of interpreting~~~~~
Here it comes..... again:

If you take away the devices of non-violent non-victim pedophelia, the rape WILL increase because the crime is equated, so why wouldn't they just rape them instead of doing the non-violent, non-victim crimes? How is this "protecting the children"? Or are you just pissed and disgusted and being vindictive?

Again, I expect no response, as all you people have had to offer so far is pre-conclusive, totalitarian regurgitations.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by badw0lf
Oh a hard one, no real crime, but the intent of the father is one that elicits reactions of utter bloody bashings.

He's no less a deviant, just has not broken the law..

THE WORST SORT.

gah, heres where we need wankers like jeffrey dahmer... grrr




Sorry, but this is absurd. How can someone who does stuff in his home, alone, be worse than someone that commits a crime such as rape?

You seem to have never actually thought about this- paedophilia is not simply 'bad' inherently, it is horrendous because of what it does to the victims. You seem to just want to prove to everyone how awful you think this is to make the impression that you are righteous.

And you think he should be murdered- who are you to decide this? The only person that can decide how bad this is is that girl when she grows up.

Oh and those quoting the Bible: Moses apparently ordered the mass rape of all virgin girls of an entire city by his army. But boy was he pious!
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood

If you take away the devices of non-violent non-victim pedophelia, the rape WILL increase because the crime is equated, so why wouldn't they just rape them instead of doing the non-violent, non-victim crimes?


If you can provide me with statistics to prove this is the case, I will listen to your argument.

Otherwise, I can be of the thought process that allowing these behaviors will further propagate the issue.



How is this "protecting the children"? Or are you just pissed and disgusted and being vindictive?


Imagine the damage done to a little girl as a victim in these circumstances. It is pedophilia and incest no matter which way you look at it.

If you're imagining your daughters face over some porn actresses body, you are engaging in an act of pedophilia.

If there is even proof of such, that should be a crime.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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As a Father of three Daughters whom I dearly love (two of which lived with me, a single parent, while they were 13ish), I must say I've enjoyed reading through this thread. Well except the comments from those of you who CLEARLY did NOT read the whole thread. I did read yours as well too though to keep things in perspective.

While reading I found myself eventually asking two questions:1) What would I do if I discovered someone had pasted one on my daughters face on some porn, and 2) What if one of my girls had come to me in tears with a tale of drugs and an invitation to pose in underwear. Eventually I had to add another question. It's odd how we react to an idea when it is repeated enough, and the multiple "eventually he would have molested her" comments finally made me ask, 3) What would I have done if an adult had molested one of my girls? Now I wish to make it clear this...(may I?) "useless eater" (finally an appropriate use of that word!) did NOT rape her. At least not that anyone here knows.

In every case I found that "prison" would not have satisfied me. I would have wanted a face to face confrontation. My interactions would have been different for each instance, and possibly different based on his reaction, but the most important consideration would be to insure that the aberrant behavior stop and never be repeated and then that the victim (one of my lovely daughters, in this hypothetical case) be healed as much as possible.

Prison does neither of these. I used to like to joke that our state prisons are "Criminal Universities". It really isn't a joke though. California does not rehabilitate inmates. That man will eventually be released as sick as ever and I do think he is sick. Indeed he will probably exit sicker, the CO's will see to that.

I do not with to derail this thread so I'll stop here. I chose to comment as I was surprised to see so many here accept "Prison" as a solution to this problem.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by freakjive
Imagine the damage done to a little girl as a victim in these circumstances. It is pedophilia and incest no matter which way you look at it.


How can something she never engaged in, and would never have seen, ever be "damaging" to her. Explain.


If you're imagining your daughters face over some porn actresses body, you are engaging in an act of pedophilia.

If there is even proof of such, that should be a crime.


Pedophelia is not a crime, the charge is child molestation. Pedophelia is a psychological disorder.

You can't just go around throwing people in prison for thinking about things if you're not in mid-century Germany.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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"You people"..............condescending.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by FrenchOsage
I chose to comment as I was surprised to see so many here accept "Prison" as a solution to this problem.


I cannot speak for everyone else, but I only said I believe this should be a crime. I never said that "Prison" was the necessary answer.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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I have not got words to describe the what i think of some of the people condoning this,I think its hitting a little to close to home for them and its a knee jerk reaction to try to convince others they are not perverted.
Boondock i hope you never have kids.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
How can something she never engaged in, and would never have seen, ever be "damaging" to her. Explain.


How about the way that her father is going to interact with her with every moment going forward after engaging such acts with her in mind?

On top of that, his acts are most likely to get worse and end up with him physically abusing her or some other child.



Pedophelia is not a crime, the charge is child molestation. Pedophelia is a psychological disorder.


Child Molestation is NOT the only crime that goes with pedophilia. Don't forget the host of other crimes that come along with this psychological disorder.

I thought you were leaving.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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My comment wasn't directed at you, nor anyone in particular. I suppose I could go further though and say "making this or that" a crime doesn't really solve the problem either. I don't have the answers but I enjoy hearing different perspectives.

I would like to see less reliance on "police", "courts" and "prison" and more community interaction. Could the Mother have confronted the Father and solved this? I don't know. Prison sure won't.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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I have seen a few members in this thread accused of condoning this behavior, and even a few accused of being potential pedophiles. I have not seen anyone post anything that validates those claims. Quite the opposite. Which post condones a father getting his 13 year old daughter high and then asking to photograph her in her underwear?

I think we are all in agreement that this behavior is abnormal and intolerable.

I've only been visiting this site for a year...are these old grudges some of you are acting out?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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I'll answer your question. The reason they are using "materials" and feeding thier sick fantasies, instead of physically assaulting a child is because they KNOW it's wrong and they know it's sick. If given the opportunity, they would most definitley have sex with a child. Let me say in response to your posts saying I and others are "self righteous" and holier than thou bible thumpers..... I am not even religious, I base my statements on the fact that I have a degree in psychology, and I have worked in law enforcement. In that capacity, I had the misfortune of having contact with these kind of people. I am very open minded and non judgemental....except in this subject. Having the "materials" to take care of thier "frustrations" is not the answer. With these people, it feeds the monster. They should not have access to any of it .....there's a reason why they hide and sneak.....they know EXACTLY what they are doing is wrong. You are 100% right I want to "save the children"....Most pedophiles in prison say that when they are released, they will likely repeat the crime. Would you think a bartender is a good job for an alchoholic? That is the same thing as saying a pedophile can look at child porn and it's ok. I hope if you have a child, that they are never harmed by one of these guys who you think should have the right to possess and wallow in child porn. I really mean that.
P.S....you're damned right I am pissed off and disgusted....and I stand by what I said.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Maslo
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How can the court system let this go unpunished?


And what crime did he commit? It is not actual child pornography, and being perverted is not a crime.


He is simply unfit to be a father. Some things are so clear, they don't even need to be written in a book of law, but I guess for some idiots we'd have to spell out everything. One of his duties is to protect his daughter from any harm and not pimp her out. This is obviously a new concept for you.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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In my opinion this man has mental issues,its ok to have fantasies as long they exist only in your head,dont go and do something like this ,because its prelude to bring it into a dark reality,the bible in the other hand also brings the show of incest and adultery those teachings your not gonna hear from the sunday or saturday bible school teacher.And yes the bible is man made...yes.This man needs to stay away from her pronto..



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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The one thing that REALLY disturbs me is, how long is it going to take this "man" from fantasizing about his daughter to actually acting out his fantasy. It'll only take one little revelation on his part and he could end up raping his child!! My only hope is that Child Services take his daughter away from him before something bad happens to her.




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