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Court: Dad can paste daughter's face on porn photo

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Exuberant1
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You are comparing thoughts from children in the the same grade with simulated childporn by an adult.
I think you need to rethink your strategy here.


In the Bible, Jesus left his home and started doing his
heavenly father's work when he was 12 yrs old.
Jewish Bar Mitzvahs usually occur around the
same age. This is around the age of knowledge.
So basically you are an adult in God's eyes
once you realize right from wrong. Mankind
only sets the standard for adulthood at 18.

A 14 yr old boy jerking off is just the same
as a 40 yr old man, both have carnal knowledge
and the knowledge of right and wrong.
So both are equally guilty.

You guys are both equally smoking crack. The point behind the child pornography/molestation laws and the accompanying immorality of it is EXPLOITATION. It is not molestation or even necessarily exploitation for two 13 or 14 year olds engaging in sexual conduct. It certainly is not desirable in my opinion (now that I'm a long way from 14). Do I really have to say this? But, the idea behind the taboo is that an older person can use their greater experience in life to coerce or exploit the younger more naieve party. Thereby the older party taking advantage of an unlevel playing field. Amongst two minors the playing field is level, removing at least the level of immorality in question here.

Taking this fallacy to the next level of wrong by inserting adolescent fantasy is absolute rubbish. You two would make great policy makers for the thought gestapo.

Boondock Saint...why don't you go ask your Illuminati pal who you've been touting on this site his opinion? Oh, you can't, because he is a fictional character. Good for a laugh though.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
Good thing that NONE OF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.


Then, please answer: Why did you bring it into the discussion?


Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
I never 'condoned' anything.

Just like I don't 'condone' Lady GaGa's promiscuous "dancing".


I believe that her response had everything to do with the topic in relation to what she said.
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
The reason you see children of 12 being tried as adults is because America is rapidly becoming an Idiocracy full of blood thristy morons who want children treated like adults for their own sick reasons


I disagree, America's Courts are smart enough to know
that by 12 yrs old, this kid knows right from wrong and
thusly tried as an adult. Capital murder should not
be a crime you can expunge from your criminal
history when you turn 18.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:42 PM
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Here is a guy that thinks looking at Child Porn is not a big deal, sounds just like the tripe some of the paedo supporters are saying. The kicker is his brother is a convicted pedophile.


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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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Ahhhh....did I misunderstand your posts? You were the one who compared this to Lady GaGa's dancing etc. What I am "going on" about is the fact that you stated that it should not be illegal. If I misunderstood, then I apoligize....if that's the case, please explain for me......would you want this dude around a child of yours? That's what I am trying to say....not trying to direspect or argue. I just can't believe that there are so many here treating this like it's "harmless fun". Once again, please don't take what I am saying as a personal attack....I just have strong feelings on this subject and sometimes I get carried away
But I meant every word I said.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by The_Phantom

Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by Suspiria
So normal acts of growing up are akin to incestuously
bent simulated child porn?..okiedokie then.


correct !!!

while both men and women are having
orgasms their mind does not stop. It is
still constantly working just like when
you sleep. Those thoughts they have
of other people involved in that masturbation
sessions becomes objects of their lust.
This is why most people who are not really
into an actual sex session can just lay
there and not have orgasms. Your mind
has to aid the orgasm. And even some
folks can have orgasms without any
physical stimulation at all. A prime
example of this is when folks wake
up from a wet dream. It's all in the mind.
The mind makes it real. Thusly the
mind simulates the sexual act.



Yeah, and in his mind he was having sex with his daughter.


I agree the guy is in the wrong and the daughter needs to stay away from him... but...

The whole " Yeah, and in his mind he was having sex with his daughter." thing is were it gets scary.

We can't have people arrested for what's "in his mind". because they were only pictures steps should be taken to make sure the daughter is safe and that nothing else happened between them...and if it did take him down.

Having wrong thoughts can't be grounds for punishment in my view because where does it stop?

Because I have THOUGHT about killing someone that pissed me off before doesn't make me a criminal since I refrained from carrying out the deed. thoughts and fantasies are just that.

For whatever reason he was obviously attracted to his daughter and if he used the pictures to act out his fantasies instead of molesting or raping her I think that is a better way he handled it.

Don't make it right but though



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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I don't know why this case went to court... This man belongs in a psychiatric institution and so does anyone who tries to justify his actions.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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A new hobby of mine is tracking down pedophiles and exposing them! Even would be or to be paedos. They even called the FBI claiming I was harassing them lol. But the FBI did nothing because im doing it "legally" as i torment them and hunt them as prey.. ahhh you see we have our "RIGHTS" too.


Also lol @ the guys connecting Lady GAGA and Fat women in spandex to this



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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OK...that does not even make sense. What does my avatar have to do with this subject? I could care less what people want to act out or dress up like. I don't care what people do sexually....UNLESS it hurts others, particularly children. That is what I'm talking about....not other people's avatars.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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He didn't break any rules but if i was a judge i would make a restriction order for that girl, the dad obviously has something for her daughter and he can hurt her in the future.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
Well at least this kiddie fiddler freak has exposed himself , hopefully his daughter knows better then or her mother to remain in contact with him. That is of course assuming they do not live with him. For the love of god these pedo monsters seem to be coming out of the wood work. Just recently I have exposed several pedo sympathizers on youtube claiming child porn was acceptable to look at. Seems there is a pedo rights movement going on? IDGI? These people should have no rights, they need castrated and banished from our continent to some deserted island imho.


These people make people like me resort to violence Grrrrrrrr feed them to me!


I find your post very insulting and disturbingly hostile.

your first mistake was assuming that everybody who
posted here in the thread who has a different opinion
than you is a Pedo. Absolutely wrong and insulting.

your second mistake was letting your emotions take
control of your rational thinking which could be
taken as a hostile threat to anyone not agreeing
with you. Absolutely wrong again. Communication
of threats online is a crime within itself. And mods
should be alerted to your rage.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:08 PM
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Right. I can almost promise you he has abused kids in the past, and will likely continue to do so.....just the fact that he went even lower to attempt to have his daughter pose for sleazy pictures tells you he does not care about the harm he may inflict....only HIS desires.. The people here defending his "preferences" don't get it. I have first hand knowledge of this subject as I had to deal with these types in my previous job, I studied this subject and had (unfortunately) had to deal with people like this. For them....it's not a harmless pastime....they are predators. Just because they have not crossed the line to real life YET, doesn't mean they won't. Statistics say they most likely will. It's an addiction and they cannot just STOP.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
Good thing that NONE OF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.


Then, please answer: Why did you bring it into the discussion?


Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
I never 'condoned' anything.

Just like I don't 'condone' Lady GaGa's promiscuous "dancing".


I believe that her response had everything to do with the topic in relation to what she said.


You two... just wow.

I meant it had nothing to do with "harming children"

I'm leaving this thread, it is void of intelligent conversation.

You people just go around in circles sponging stars out of eachother, you don't even want to talk about anything that actually goes anywhere. What I brought up is that MAKING THIS ILLEGAL CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS. Keep ignoring that linear logic at your own childrens' risk.

You people are just vindictive and have "your minds" made up. Poor kids are going to get raped more often because pedos have less outlets for their sexual frustrations and eventually it will be your kids.

Karma it is for the totalitarian asshats; its the only way shallow people with zero perspective learn their lessons, anyways.

Keep parading around with a gavel in one hand and a self-ignited flaming "holy book" in the other, it's getting you places real quick.

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by ls1cameric
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

WOW.... I honestly feel sorry for you....


I don't.
Why do you ???

I do not think it is right to imprison
somebody solely on account of
what thought s they had.

Some folks here at ATS are blowing
this out of proportion due to a child
being involved.

I guarantee you if the guy had been
imprisoned only because he only thought
about killing his boss, this whole
scenario would be a non-issue
and folks would be screaming:
LET HIM OUT !!!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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I find your post very insulting and disturbingly hostile.

your first mistake was assuming that everybody who
posted here in the thread who has a different opinion
than you is a Pedo. Absolutely wrong and insulting.


WRONG

Im referring to the internet in general. I did not refer to ATS in particular. I can go on about what sites and who, how , when and so on in detail "coming out of the wood work"



your second mistake was letting your emotions take
control of your rational thinking which could be
taken as a hostile threat to anyone not agreeing
with you. Absolutely wrong again. Communication
of threats online is a crime within itself. And mods
should be alerted to your rage.


ORLY! Well my "RAGE" is not directed at anyone here on ATS first of all. In reality on the streets that is another story. I will deal with pedophiles in my way accordingly in such a situation. You are taking my statements out of context and making a mountain out of an ant hill. No im not the kind of guy that sings kumbayah my lord. Sue me. But i certainly have not threatened anyone here or directed "RAGE" at anyone.

Why so serious?

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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So according to that logic, we should say that snuff films should be legal so serial killers have an outlet for thier "frustrations"?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by badw0lf

gah, heres where we need wankers like Dexter... grrr




FTFY



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by ls1cameric
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

WOW.... I honestly feel sorry for you....


I don't.
Why do you ???

I do not think it is right to imprison
somebody solely on account of
what thought s they had.

Some folks here at ATS are blowing
this out of proportion due to a child
being involved.

I guarantee you if the guy had been
imprisoned only because he only thought
about killing his boss, this whole
scenario would be a non-issue
and folks would be screaming:
LET HIM OUT !!!


So true.

Arguer: Pedophelia > murder.

Opposition: Why?

Arguer: 'Because "save the chilren!"'

Opposition: But more children will be raped if we take away their methods of non-violent, non-victim pedophelia

Arguer: I don't care, "save the children!"

Opposition: Cool story bro, you're super smart. Promise.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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I agree with the decision. I also agree with my sister that him doing this proves that his daughter needs to be monitored carefully. Either he's doing it to discourage/punish her for sexual misconduct in an extremely twisted way, or he's doing something that makes me suspicious he's molesting her.



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