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Court: Dad can paste daughter's face on porn photo

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posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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This may not be able to be prosecuted under any current law, as far as chilld pornography goes, but one one hand ayone can see that a father who would subject his daughter to this is immensley sick in the head. Unless it was done as a stupid joke or him testing hi photoshop skills. Peple do mindless things, and yu can't deem someone incapable of raising a daughter soley on one occurance.

But what I believe should be done by the mother, or the clerks working for the judge is to have a case with child services, and conduct an investigation if he has sexually harrased or whatever to his family/daughter.

If his daughter was not a minor currently, and hasn't developed to his sexual standards yet, to the point he puts her face on womens bodies to fulfill some sick fantasy... I do not want to let this case go untill one day she does develop and daddy molests her.

Something needs to be done about this to find out what makes up this mans psyche.
edit on 9-6-2011 by DunkdaMonk because: my phone has a30 second delay untill i see what ive typed...



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by Forevever
 


Do you realize how many parents warn their children about drugs..but the children still decide to participate in experimentation? I was one of these children,and would really hope my parent would not be so silly as to blame themselves for something I clearly did out of free choice. Did the fact that most of my peers were doing it have something to do with..yes..very much so.

You don't say why you don't trust the father of your child...but yet you find it is ok to take away your childs right to have a relationship with its father, because you distrust him ?

I'm not saying you have valid reason , just saying, that it seems extreme that you would take a mans money for his child , yet never allow a relationship , just based on mistrust.

There have been teachers I didn't trust with my children, but I just couldn't pull them out of school because of it. What I could do is explain to them , that certain things were inappropriate , and no matter who was doing these things..they should never ever feel afraid to come and talk to me about it. They should also never feel intimidated by saying NO , whatever the circumstances were....even if it was blackmail.


Just for the contradiction (which I don't agree with) - according to some people in this thread you were a child, you had no idea what you were doing and cannot be held responsible for the choices you made :X

but I personally agree with you - to disagree I'd have to know the reasons you chose to experiment with drugs - if you're blaming your peers... I'm sorry you weren't stronger willed - I blame your parents


I did allow my kids to attempt a relationship with their father, I just never left them alone with him - had their attempts panned out, we might be having a different conversation. For the most part, my lack of trust, and not wanting to leave them alone with him, simply came down to the fact that he never requested them on a regular basis. Showing up once every few years, is ridiculous, and its definitely not wrong on my part to insist the first attempts at visitation were supervised. His disagreeing with supervision just makes me question his motives. And if he felt so strongly about it, he might have mentioned it to the judge at the time we got a support order... think?

As far as I'm concerned he's the one who lost out - not my kids - and they feel the same way. I also want to say for the record I never said anything bad about their father to them, I let them make up their own mind.

You sound like a great mom to me, I'm glad you were wise enough to explain whats inappropriate to them, especially where people we're supposed to trust (like teachers) are concerned. Kudos!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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There has to be a charge to get this demented SOB on.

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor. (drugs)
Conspiracy to manufacture child porn. (asking to child to strip to her underwear to be photographed)
Isn't mental distress a form of abuse?

Why couldn't they 'Paste' his photo on the internet so the world will see this piece of scum?

Privacy? We can give him privacy with Bubba on a ten year stretch.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup
Oh you mean other than giving his daughter Weed, Cocaine and asking her to strip so that he could photograph her?

Yeah ok...


Did you read the article?


Does ANYONE read the article?

He's talking about the matter directly mentioned in the thread title. Yes, the father committed crimes, but many of us are discussing his photoshopping, and whether or not it can be seen as a crime. His other crimes should not factor into whether or not this can rightfully be considered a crime by the book of law.
edit on 9/6/11 by HardbeatAcolyte because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
This is what we get when our laws have nothing to do with morality.

Get some parking tickets and fail to pay, and they will steal your car.

Put cut outs of little kids on porn and no one minds.

Yeah, gotta love Earth.


They STEAL your car? How many tickets before they do that lol?

Our laws have lots to do with morality.

It wouldn't be ethical to throw this guy in jail just because of the photoshopped pictures (anymore than it would be ethical to throw people in jail for having sexual fantasies about real people, or drawing real people in the buff etc. etc.), no victim.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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While I agree that it is sick and disturbing, and indeed it very much is, there are many sick and disturbing things in our society that go unpunished.

From a legal standpoint, he was unjustly punished. Morally, he is obviously guilty of being a sick pedo, especially since it was his own daughter he was using for this act.

But we can't ever really become a society that depends too heavily on "potentials" for preventing crime.

Black / Latin guy driving a nice car? (police thought) "Pull him over, he's guilty of something, I can smell it!"

As a society, we unfortunately are not capable of predicting the future, or punishing people ahead of expected crimes committed. Sure, any of us can see this pedo guy getting even more demented. Yeah, it's probably going to land him in prison some day. But none of us have the right or ability to predict a crime, so we can't just look around with a shrewd expression, thinking the entire world is guilty of something, regardless of whether it's true or not.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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I'm just glad to hear that the daughter was removed from the situation before the father physically molested her. Though, she'll have a lot of issues to deal with now - trust issues, man hating, etc.

Many young girls aren't so lucky. As for the father? The dude is doing hard time - men in prison who were convicted of child sex related crimes get "special" treatment from Bubba. He's sick, but its his fault for not seeking treatment before this crap happened.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
The dude is doing hard time - men in prison who were convicted of child sex related crimes get "special" treatment from Bubba.


Lots of people get raped in jail and it's a travesty.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by HardbeatAcolyte
Yes, the father committed crimes, but many of us are discussing his photoshopping, and whether or not it can be seen as a crime. His other crimes should not factor into whether or not this can rightfully be considered a crime by the book of law.
edit on 9/6/11 by HardbeatAcolyte because: (no reason given)




Well that's fair enough.... It just seems that many are coming into the thread and saying he shouldn't have got in trouble, all he did was masturbate over a picture.... But that's NOT all he did.


If we're just talking about the picture then I don't know, I think it could be argued in court that he isn't a fit parent and he may be a danger to his daughter.... but as for the actual "crime" that is tricky.... I don't know all the laws on this?

Hmmmm

It's a tough one.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
Do you realize that serious torture ,and snuff films make a great deal of money as well.. so I guess if some like it and spend money on it it's ok that it happens?

Would you care to substantiate these claims? How much money, exactly, is a great deal?
As far as I can gather, the concept of an underground market for snuff films is more of an urban legend than a reality. Are there videos of violent deaths in circulation? Yes. Do some people pay money for them? Probably, I'm not sure, but it's a possibility. But what makes you think there's a 'great deal of money' in torture and murder videos?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I agree. And fair enough for correcting those who didn't know he'd committed other crimes



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 03:47 PM
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This man should get publicly humiliated and his face thrown all over the news like a john. he will eventually do what needs to be done to his kind himself. That is the only answer I think?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by badw0lf

gah, heres where we need wankers like jeffrey dahmer... grrr





That doesn't make sense.

What do you mean?

FYI, Dahmer was a serial killer who targeted innocent people and did horrible things to them. He was never 'needed'.


I think he meant it as a joke.....Sort of like how Showtimes Dexter is a serial killer that kills other serial killers that the law can't get. I don't think he was being serious at all....just venting the frustration of realizing we can't get this guy for any real crimes, so he was jokingly suggesting that it would be nice if some serial killer could at least get this guy off the street...in a rather permanent fashion



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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While it may not be illegal I feel it's only a matter of time before the father gets tired of pasting the daughter's face on pics and wants the real thing. The sad thing is there probably isn't much that can be done until it's happened and by then it'll be too late for this little girl.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by SevenBeans


They STEAL your car? How many tickets before they do that lol?


One parking ticket. If you don't pay within like 6 weeks they will put the boot on your car.

Then within 3 days of no payment they tow the vehicle and consider it their personal property until you pay grips of $ to get it back.

I know as a fact it's not just America that is like that, most nations in the world have adopted parking policies like this.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by SevenBeans
no victim.


By just having this man as a father, She is a victim!



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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How about starting with a psych evaluation to find out why he would do such a thing to his own daughter?



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by AllUrChips
This man should get publicly humiliated and his face thrown all over the news like a john. he will eventually do what needs to be done to his kind himself. That is the only answer I think?


You think shallowly.

If a man was going to kill himself and had sexual fantasies about his daughter...

...and millions of people are ridiculing him...

...I'm sure he'd rape before he killed himself.

Think things through.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? Please, please keep the bible out of this.



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by freakjive

Originally posted by SevenBeans
no victim.


By just having this man as a father, She is a victim!


People are victims to much harsher forms of mental anguish from their parents that aren't protected under the law. This girl probably doesn't even know; if she does, whoever told her is the 'abuser', no?




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