Originally posted by freakjive
Originally posted by SaturnFX
incidently, before you start to question...hell yeah I fantasized about underage girls...
This is why it's perceived that you're defending the guy. You share his same sick mindset.
Yes, admitting my desire to sleep with some starlet of 17 years whom is dressed in nothing jumping around on TV is unique to me and me alone. I am the
most disturbed person you will ever meet.
here is the actual truth to it however:
I accept that there are underage and attractive girls out there..I therefore will be armed against it for all times to protect my arse and carefully
ID...and have principles that override my biological desires.
I am less dangerous than someone whom buries their head in the sand pretending moral authority then suddenly doing something because they never
prepared for a instance when some poison ivy senario happens.
for me, there is simply a legal guideline. age of consent = bible. no "she acted older", or anything like that...I am prepared.
I am defending fantasys as a concept in general because should even the most disgusting of fantasys become illegal, it will rapidly become a monster
and puritanical witch hunting for naughty thoughts and representations.
I see the fantasy as thinking the disgusting thoughts. I see the crime in creating photos that allow him to interact with this fantasy. We have
enough evidence to say this will likely progress to more heinous crimes. In fact, there is evidence in this case of just that. He already took the
next progressive step. At the least, this should have been classified as Child Endangerment.
Representations of crime is not crime
I love me my video games...lots of the representations are of murder and other such crimes. Australia is now in full force for thought police and
making even representations of crime illegal...
the slippery slope will continue on forever once you allow even the most "disgusting" of things to become illegal.
Do some research on rampant censorship in the name of the children.
its a bs argument and no matter how much -people like you- try to humiliate anyone standing up for the rights, I will simply not back down. its bull,
its feeding into the desire for government to cover you with protective laws, and it is against the very foundation of freedom.
You can twist absolutely anything into a moral arguement...and things always are twisted into moral arguements, be it this (criminal representations)
or guns, taxes, cursing, etc...I say to hell with all the arguements. show me a victim or stfu. go live in a country where there actually is moral
police and find your personal happiness, otherwise, just be a effing parent or concerned neighbor and stop asking for the state and country to be a
parent for you
as far as incest..well, no, that doesn't float my boat either really (however, I do have a cousin in canada..she is a bit older, but damn she is
cute)...still, no..not my overall fantasy.
The attempt at sarcasm was weak and furthers my thinking that you have a sick mind.
Your continous words like "sick mind" make me think you are actually hiding something...especially when you feel the need to belittle someone
personally for being on a different philosophical argument than you.
fling insults at each other, or discuss the philosophical merits of this subject. I can actually discuss the argument without resorting to personally
attacking someone, because I feel I have the actual intellectual point here...however, the typical response is, if you can't "win" an argument
through valid counterpoints, then you can always just stoop to the level of personal insults.
I guess you feel like your not making as many valid points intellectually, so you are trying to drag it into the mud.
I defend fantasy overall and more importantly, I am against thought police.
Again, I believe this goes beyond thought. There was action. He created images of his daughter in lewd poses.
It is unhealthy...I agree with you here. however, it is just a physical representation.
What he did do wrong was the grooming aspect...the drugs, etc...that is clearly illegal along with morally objectionable...and he will pay dearly for
the picture alterations are simply sort of disturbing, however so is putting a bullet through your ex-wifes picture's head...it feeds a very dark
place, but is ultimately not a crime.
This guy is wondering what his daughter will be like as a sexually active adult..thats actually what is going on here...its just a bunch of gray, and
the only black and white issue so far is the legal status of this...which its not illegal...everything else is moral wordplay and philosophcal spin.
You honestly believe that's what's going through this guys head? I'm concerned that you seem to connect so much with the suspect and seem to also
be in tune with what he's thinking.
edit on 6/9/2011 by freakjive because: (no reason given)
well, ok, that last part was the actual sarcasm part...just saying, things can be spun around and around depending on what your trying to show.
As far as in tune with his thinking...well, I am in tune with his thinking, a rapists thinking, a virgins thinking, and every other possible mindset
I am genuinely interested in peoples behavior..sort of a hobby of mine, but being in tune, or understanding, is not condoning. I can understand how a
extravagent homosexual feels and is motivated by, however, I also find that mindset not acceptable as one I take on.
To say you don't understand the thinking, motivation, or anything else about someone makes you actually less in a position to judge him...how can you
judge what you do not understand?
Its important for every parent to know the mind of a child molestor, its important for every soldier to know how the enemy thinks, and I suggest its
important for every human to know the anti-social mindsets...identification allows for defense...ignorance only leads to victimization.
I make no apologies for using wisdom and perspective.