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Electric watches in Sicily (Italy) running all 20 minutes faster

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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 09:20 AM
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If the earth changes poles that could be the new north!




posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by prof7
Clocks that base their time on crystal oscillators (wrist watches or other kinds of battery driven or mechanical watches that are not connected to the grid) are not affected.


ummm, maybe u didn't read my post

my wrist watch is not connected to
any grid bro.
You know I had a digital watch that would always GAIN time..

It was a cheap 20 dollar wrangler from wally world also..

The battery lasted 6 YEARS!!!

I figured it just happened not for any particular reason..

I had a 80 dollar watch from a mall store that battery only lasted 2 and a half..

My watch stories...


You know now that I think about it, the wally world watch was digital
and the mall store watch was ?chronological? it was a normal 2 hand,
do you think that would effect battery life?





You see the thing is I was thinking the same thing..

I just got back from a long truck hall (I drive a semi across state lines)
The clock in the truck which has NEVER been off time, is now reading 2 minutes fast!!

The PC computer is now 2 minutes slower then my bedroom clock which is connected to the power grid.

My wrist watch which is a digital Timex I just set it to be perfect with the CNN clock on tv. that cnn has.

Now THAT CLOCK has lost 2 minutes..

I have to be sure though when I cross the time index (while driving the semi-) that going from eastern to central time, turn that clock back an hour.

It is just the minutes though, when the time is correct i'm always on time..

Crazy, must be the solar dynamics and the crazy heat right now..

I love Italy dated a girl from Rome she could make the best shrimp cocktail and cannoli I EVER had.
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by prof7
These clocks take their time base from the (usually very precise) 50Hz frequency of the European power grid. Usually the grid is synchronized all across Europe and exactly 50Hz are guaranteed everywhere but when some small part of the power grid gets decoupled from the rest of the grid and is running freely for a while then the frequency in this part of the grid might drift a little bit until it is recoupled again with the rest.

There is no mystery here, this is just a technical failure in the power grid. No mystery "impulses" in the grid, this is pure bull#. Just a normal frequency drift as it happens from time to time, every electrical engineer can explain this. All one needs to know is how the grid woks and how these clocks work. Both are neither secret nor mysteries.

Clocks that base their time on crystal oscillators (wrist watches or other kinds of battery driven or mechanical watches that are not connected to the grid) are not affected.

edit on 9-6-2011 by prof7 because: (no reason given)


When I spent some time in India, there would be so much variation in the electrical grid there, that the ceiling fans would speed up or slow down on their own from that.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Now that ya mention it, my scheduled TV shows air a couple of minutes earlier.

It would be ironic if this was "days shortening" so flesh would be saved.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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as the planet goes to a faster vibration clocks grids etc will act crazy. everything is speeding up to the point where days are flying by. we are all headed to a new dimension. remember the group The Fifth Dimension song The Age of Aquarious they were telling you something!!



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 02:28 PM
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I'm confused. The OP translates the article saying that watches are affected. I don't see that at all when it's translated. If watches aren't involved then the oscillating explanation would be perfect. Here is the article in full:


CATANIA - currently the only "real risk of being in office is a quarter of an hour in advance. But the curious fact in itself and, as was expected, the mystery now runs on the Net for over a week the clocks of Catania, but also other cities of Sicily, seems literally insane. Suddenly begin to run even managing to go 15-20 minutes a day. An unexplained phenomenon that has sparked the curiosity of two computer experts of St Microelectronics, the semiconductor corporation based in Catania. Andrea De Luca and Francesco Nicosia are in some ways even to specialists. And certainly not easily suggestible. Speaking of them have discovered a problem in common, by return, shared on social networks . At that point, the discovery in Sicily are now hundreds of digital clocks that go faster than necessary.

TAM TAM ON FACEBOOK - "How many of you have had problems with alarm clocks, microwave etc?" asked Francis on Facebook. Are immediately flocked confirmations. "I know I did with the microwave ... the system and it happens again," he says Melina. And Angel: "... me with the radio alarm clock." Paola: 'It's true even my microwave is ahead by about 7 min ... how strange. " Julia, however, had thought he had already solved the problem 'to me has happened with the clock radio, so I changed that yesterday. " While Marilyn was charged everything to his carelessness. "The first time I thought the microwave I had touched me wrong - explain the system with time-Sky and the PC, the next day I find it forward 10 minutes. I'm more careful, the new system and find it later. Now 'is a hard thing for a week, had never done before ... boh will be hot. "

ETNA GUILT? - It 's just the point. What is happening in and around Catania in Sicily? Something like what happened recently in Caronia where televisions, refrigerators, radios suddenly caught fire? In that case even came to fear the presence of aliens who hangs out between the Tyrrhenian coast and the Aeolian Islands. The yellow di Caronia has never been fully resolved, even if it were made ​​of assumptions: the effect of electromagnetic fields to sudden changes in the delivery of current. More or less the same as those made ​​to explain "the mystery of crazy clocks." The people thought the network had also linked to electromagnetic fields Etna, although this would only apply to Catania, while some have even mentioned the effects of solar winds. Surge? - A convincing answer to give but the researchers of the department of electrical engineering at the University of Catania. "Everything could be born - told a local TV Dilettoso Professor Emmanuel - the fact that there are now a network of power generators, such as photovoltaic systems, which are often not self-regulated and thus any small variations in frequency are not adequately compensated '. And there are also those who point out that a few days work is in the submarine cable that comes in Sicily. The case will therefore be sought in the rush to supply electricity? "I thought about it too - replica Francesco Nicosia - but I did check the electrical wiring in my house (230 volts at a frequency of 49.89 Hz) and everything seems smooth. And if so faults should cover all the appliances. "

THE BANK WORRIED - If at first the two friends and colleagues addressed this strange story lightly and almost fun now seem worried. "The other day, Francis said - even the grocery store under the house told me that his digital clock has suddenly made ​​a run. But this is nothing. Arriving at the bank and use that tells me I have to wait a bit '. "Unfortunately - my explanation here all the machines have been put in ...." "You also have the clocks go forward?" I ask for a joke. He said, "but how does she know?". "In short, the alarm clocks crazy is spreading like wildfire and now also runs over the Net



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Maybe scientists are playing God too much, What if CERN is messing up the space time continuim with their fancy dark matter, they held dark matter for 16 minutes, I bet it was 20 just or something just to find out.
Anti matter anti time, we know nothing about it.
What if CERN makes 2012 come true, maybe they cause a rift in space time.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo
I'm confused. The OP translates the article saying that watches are affected. I don't see that at all when it's translated. If watches aren't involved then the oscillating explanation would be perfect. Here is the article in full:



Anything that has a quartz base would be effected, if the watches are digital then quartz is involved.

I would say the common factor is quartz.



edit on 10-6-2011 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth

Originally posted by Cuervo
I'm confused. The OP translates the article saying that watches are affected. I don't see that at all when it's translated. If watches aren't involved then the oscillating explanation would be perfect. Here is the article in full:



Anything that has a quartz base would be effected, if the watches are digital then quartz is involved.

I would say the common factor has to be the quartz base, that is being effected.

edit on 10-6-2011 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)


But the article doesn't seem to actually mention watches.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 06:37 PM
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I actually work for a data center that monitors Solar plants that are connected to the grid in Sicily. I can tell you that we have had alot of grid disturbances at our plants this week and 2 of them remain offline to this moment. I can tell you from my remote metering data (which is connected to the grid) that the AC Frequency and Voltage are very unstable in Sicily currently. It is fluctuating wildly. It should also be noted that most clocks that are connected to the Grid are directly influenced by AC frequency. If you increase AC frequency slowly over time, your clock will speed up. Lower AC Frequency, Clocks slow down. Why this is happening is most likley due to the regional utility.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth
Anything that has a quartz base would be effected, if the watches are digital then quartz is involved.
I would say the common factor is quartz.


Sorry, no quartz involved.

The article talks about these cheap digital LED clocks that are connected to mains and all these cheap LED clock modules that are built into microwaves, alarm clocks, clock radios, etc use the 50Hz mains frequency as time base and not a crystal oscillator.

I can remember myself having seen this: electronicsusa.com... (or one of its variations) in almost every digital LED clock that was built in the 80's and 90's and I am pretty sure similar chips (successors of this good old well known and widespread clock chip) are still used today.

If your clock radio has this big green (or red) four digit LED display (with a small dot in the upper left corner signaling that it is armed) then chances are that if you open it and look inside you will find exactly this (or similar¹, see below) chip driving the clock!

And all these clocks have in common that they all derive their clock frequency (and time base) from from the 50Hz mains frequency.

Edit:
¹) or this: MM5387AA (from the same manufacturer, with alarm and sleep function)
see here: www.ferromel.de...


edit on 10-6-2011 by prof7 because: added MM5387AA

edit on 10-6-2011 by prof7 because: added example application schematics

edit on 10-6-2011 by prof7 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Whatever the explanation is, a couple months ago I had a dream about clocks around the world being off, by as much as 12 hours. There was also extreme heat in my dream. Night was day and it was too hot to go outside.

Not that my dream has anything to do with what is happening here, I just thought it was an interesting coincidence and wanted to give my Lincolns.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Article says it is spilling over onto the internet in the area there.

Interesting.

I wish more details were given because the article it somewhat vague even in Italian.
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posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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The clock on our wall has been going crazy too..

.. but not by 20 minutes.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth
The term "oriologio digitale" can mean clocks, watches, wristwatches, they way it was used in the article implies watches too.


But only LED clocks were actually affected by the drift in the mains frequency that happened due to the maintenance work at the sea cable.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by prof7
But only LED clocks were actually affected by the drift in the mains frequency that happened due to the maintenance work at the sea cable.



It says TV's, Fridges, and radios caught fire also, so I am not sure about just the LED's.

There are many things going on here in this article.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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thats quite interesting.
a while back my watch kept ending up ahead of time by two minutes, in comparison to the time on my phone and i would always set it to the time on my phone. the watch i have has a winding mechanism in it tat spins when you move around so the watch is self winding, no batteries or anything, so i dont see how it would get ahead of time. its a pretty nice watch so i dont think its broken



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth
It says TV's, Fridges, and radios caught fire also, so I am not sure about just the LED's.
There are many things going on here in this article.


There are many crazy anecdotes (even from elsewhere) and all sorts of wild speculations and sensationalism and things that have noting to do with it mixed into the article, up to a degree where the original phenomenon (quite boring story with simple explanation about grid based clocks collectively going wrong due to drifting grid frequency because of temporary decoupling from continental grid due to maintenance works) is almost not recognizable anymore.



posted on Jun, 10 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by zosimos
its a pretty nice watch so i dont think its broken


You think it is not broken because it is *nice*?

My last car was nice also, one day it was broken. And still looked nice.



posted on Jun, 11 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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This is a common application circuit used in most electronic systems that need a real time clock. The user can initially program the DS1307 after the 3V Lithium battery has been installed. The specified date and time are serially programmed through the SCL and SDA lines. Once the DS1307 is programmed with an acceptable time the device then applies voltage to the crystal making it oscillate at 32.768KHZ. The seconds start counting up when this crystal activates.

I believe watches also have this 32.768KHZ crystal inside them but I don’t know if they have this same type of circuitry. A crystal always oscillates at the same frequency so I doubt the crystal is at fault with the 20 minute time error. It may be possible that an external oscillation, higher than 32.768KHZ, is present at the X1/X2 pins causing the frequency to increase internally in the DS1307 RTC device. There could be an unwanted frequency propagating in the air around the region. The local authorities should get their communications regulatory agency to check it out.

Also, keep in mind that some watches or electronic systems have an auto update from an external source that will put new data into the DS1307. The broadcast source signal could be the clock that is off by 20 minutes. The source should be coming from an Atomic Clock. I wonder if their Atomic Clock is getting interference from an external source.



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