reply to post by halfoldman
The only real tithe I ever gave to a church blew up in my face.
It is wrong, for a fact.
Give to those in need. Don't pointlessly pay people to spread their agenda. Fellowship with other Christians if you wish. Don't worry about the
church building's parking lot, or roof. If a church only asks for a little help with money every now and then to repair the pipes, cool. But if
they're demanding you to pay weekly or monthly or whatever you do, they're not right AT ALL.
This is catholic doctrine that crept into the protestant, and, well, every other church on the planet really. I actually don't know if a church
exists that does not commit this folly.
I do know one thing:
Jesus taught people outside most of the time. He only went into the temple a couple of times, and usually to ream out the scribes and priests for
To the one who said that the couple of verses in the New Testament regarding the Pharisees tithing, you say those support tithing; no, Jesus is not
telling His children to tithe. He is telling the Pharisees what they SHOULD have done, before Him. Not what they should be doing now.
But because of His arrival, it was too late for them to fix themselves in the law. That's basic Christian understanding.
If I were given authority by God to give a commandment to my brothers and sisters in Christ, my commandment would be to give to the homeless and the
poor in your communities or towns or cities, DAILY if need be. And do it with joy, and get to know those people, and do not be put off by their
quirkiness, and don't judge them if they happen to steal or do something stupid a couple of times, Forgive them and show them that you know they
have a crazy mentality because people treat them like mangy dogs. But the fact is that they could have perfect teeth and perfect hair and stand tall
over you and crush you just as easily as the other way around occurs. Very, very, very few people actually desire to look and feel like garbage, and
you will find out who those are easily enough.
That is what I think should be done by all, and that is what I like to do, even when my family is scrapping for pennies, we are always thinking of the
homeless and the poor. We know them by name in this town because we find them, they find us, God sends them to us, however it happens, it happens.
And we make friends with them.
And the people of status with whom we are acquainted, our family, our friends, look at us like we are idiots when they see us hanging out with those
guys or girls, without fear of their judgment.
IT makes me so happy to know that I love those people, even more than I love many other kinds of people. I love homeless people, the poor, young
punks, some angry people, some drunks, and some gays/lesbians as well, though I know that homosexuality is wrong, I still get to know the person and
understand them. If they haven't yet accepted Christ, there is absolutely no reason yet to judge them, for they are still true to their current
It makes me sad that others judge so harshly, or misjudge (whether for good or bad), but also it makes me happy because it reveals somewhat to me and
in me and through those around me the glory of God; because the devil exists, there must be something visible in the Spirit to show in whom God
resides, and these situations are excellent for revealing true light.
If NOT tithing is a cursed, let us be accursed. But if NOT tithing is not a curse, we are truly blessed to have the freedom to take care of our
neighbors and brothers and sisters in Christ that truly need help. For if we have a little excess in the flesh, then we should give in the flesh to
those that have no excess.
And therefore, the flesh is satisfied, and rests, and then the mind and the spirit are not in bondage to the vehicle of the flesh, and therefore are
more open to understanding, reason, true love, and true life.
And Christians judge when a man or woman does a thing, has a temptation, or whatever. And now there is a way to possibly make that temptation go
away, but to constantly battle a temptation also is crazy. It's impossible to have the freedom to do anything if you spend your entire time fighting
a battle that serves no better purpose for anyone except for your desire to live up to the law, which you cannot.
We do not go out and purposely find trouble to get into, but the flesh is weak. So we do our best to overcome, and to focus on what we must, and to
move forward, and to share the love of Christ with the world.
So let us not feed the flesh of those who are overly satisfied and are worried about tomorrow's satisfaction. How pointless.
You are not more of a man for throwing away your money. However, a wife does need to listen to the husband, and a husband should be hearing his wife.
If a man believes the woman rules over, he is wrong.