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"My own view is that the political opportunities will flow from military pressure," Gates said on Saturday at a security conference in Singapore, prior to leaving for Kabul as part of a final world tour before stepping down later this month....
Gates's comments follow reports that the US has begun a secret engagement with the Taliban as it begins to withdraw troops from Afghanistan in July as part of a process to hand over all combat operations to Afghan security forces by 2014
"I think there is a generally accepted view that primarily all conflicts of this kind eventually come to a close with some kind of a political settlement," Gates said. "But the reality is, in my view, that the prospects for a political settlement do not become real until the Taliban and the other adversaries, the Afghan adversaries, begin to conclude they cannot win militarily."
We can no longer sustain this war...no matter what the political talking-heads say, and Gates is leaving the door open for Americans to put this issue to rest once and for all.
Eventually, we must come to terms with what we set out to accomplish, and that goal has been met. I say talk with the Taliban, ensure peace and continuity of the Afghan government and bring the troops home. This is long overdue and I hope we call follow through without partisan egos thwarting the stepping stones of peace.
The previously unknown deposits — including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium
The vast scale of Afghanistan’s mineral wealth was discovered by a small team of Pentagon officials and American geologists. The Afghan government and President Hamid Karzai were recently briefed, American officials said.
Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by sheepslayer247
We can no longer sustain this war...no matter what the political talking-heads say, and Gates is leaving the door open for Americans to put this issue to rest once and for all.
LOL your believing Gates words? not even a chance, Americans forces will stay in Afghanistan for a long time.
Gates is on his way out. I am taking his comments for what they are worth and I agree with his sentiments. We may be in Afghanistan in a perpetual war for the foreseeable future, but Gates and the Military know they can never completely wipe out everyone they label as a "terrorist". It's time to leave!
LOL your believing Gates words? not even a chance, Americans forces will stay in Afghanistan for a long time.
If we pull our heads of of our backsides and learn that we cannot police the world....our troops can come home. We must be willing to enter peace talks with them, plain and simple. If we don't, you will get you never-ending war and our troops will continue to die.
What peace? american forces will stay in Afghanistan for a long time, its an occupation sheepslayer247 troops wont return.
Yes, I know this. As far as I know they have not even begun to pull these minerals out of the ground, yet. So of course it wouldn't be very useful...yet. I don't see what this has to do with Gate's comments on peace talks.
Did you know that Americans forces found Mineral Riches in Afghanistan last year? of course they have been claiming it will help the Afghan economy, but it has not.
Talks with the Taliban have been done before with no luck, as for the pulling out of Afghanistan, that will never happen.
cant believe so many people are still believing the official bin laden raid story and believe that the Navy seals Six Exists?
Considering the recent alleged death of OBL
Originally posted by boondock-saint
pardon my french
but WTF happened to the policy
that we don't negotiate with terrorist ??
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot that the US
Gov is a terrorist entity themselves
makes it good to go. nevermind.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
pardon my french
but WTF happened to the policy
that we don't negotiate with terrorist ??
Originally posted by boondock-saint
pardon my french
but WTF happened to the policy
that we don't negotiate with terrorist ??
Originally posted by Aggie Man
The Taliban are not considered terrorists.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by Aggie Man
The Taliban are not considered terrorists.
neither is the CIA
but their headcount of dead
is over 6 Million
what would you call that ???
By far the biggest problem as I see it from the American side is a general lack of understanding of the Taliban, not just the misconception of them being the same as Al’Qa’ida but the idea that the Afghan people don’t want them.
Prior to the Taliban taking control of Kabul, Afghanistan was a lawless hell hole, in the first part of 1994
20,000 were killed in fighting amongst war lords. People read about how the Taliban treated women, such as refusing to provide education to girls and blaming Sharia law for this.
The truth is the reason the Taliban did not provide education to girls was because they could not afford to.
The reason they reputedly banned the flying of kites was because to fly a kite many went on to roofs and could look down on to women in their back yards were they could bear more flesh in the family home.
Sure they were harsh, I don’t agree with Sharia law but under the Taliban there was zero corruption and they massively reduced the poppy trade two of the big factors currently plaguing Afghanistan and the thorn in the side of NATO.
A perfect example of NATO’s ignorance of the Taliban can be seen during operation Moshtarak they chose that name because it means “joint” or “together”, only problem is that its Dari, the majority of Afghans are Pashtun this ignorance just annoys the locals. One of the greatest insults to a Pushtun is to enter his home uninvited so the night raids by Special Forces against them has to stop,
the Taliban have public support and have gone on record saying they do not oppose democracy only that they want to “fix the constitution of Afghanistan”. I think we should let them fix it.
If we pull our heads of of our backsides and learn that we cannot police the world....our troops can come home. We must be willing to enter peace talks with them, plain and simple. If we don't, you will get you never-ending war and our troops will continue to die.