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Topic started on 7-6-2011 @ 02:16 PM by hawkiye

Federal Reserve Admits: We Have No Gold


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The Federal Reserve does not own any gold at all. We have not owned gold since 1934, so we have not engaged in any gold swap...

What appears on our balance sheet is gold certificates…Before 1934 the Federal Reserve did, we did own gold. We turned that over by law to the Treasury and received in return for that gold certificates.
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reply posted on 7-6-2011 @ 02:28 PM by zookey
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So somebody answer this one..

If they control the money supply, they don't need money, they just use that concept to control us right?

So, money is not backed by GOLD, so as printers of money, they don't need gold, right?

So, what do THEY need gold for? It is not wealth, they already have that.

I guess it is for some OTHER reason.


reply posted on 7-6-2011 @ 02:43 PM by silent thunder
Originally posted by zookey
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post by hawkiye





So somebody answer this one..

If they control the money supply, they don't need money, they just use that concept to control us right?

So, money is not backed by GOLD, so as printers of money, they don't need gold, right?

So, what do THEY need gold for? It is not wealth, they already have that.

I guess it is for some OTHER reason.


The gold is "just in case."

Fiat money creators are always playing a game of "chicken" with actual resources, physical holdings of this and that, etc. In the 1970s there was mistrust of the dollar in the wake of Vietnam and soaring inflation. International holders of dollar assets (and the French, in particular) began to demand their gold holdings (as the dollar was still then officially backed by and redeemable in gold). The coffers were quickly depleted and the emperor was about to be naked, when suddenly Nixon basically threw down the gauntlet by going off the gold standard. He basically was saying to the capitalist world at the time: "OK, we admit it, there isn't enough gold. But so what? The system works pretty much OK for all the big players. You really want to crash the whole system?" The big players and the market in general decided that no, they didn't want to.

Basically what the Fed has been doing since 2008 (earlier, really, but since the financial shock in earnest) is taking this game to the next level. "Sure, we are printing cash, buying our own debt, handing out bailouts like candy...but what are you going to do about it?" Up to now, the world has decided that the benefits of maintaining "business as usual" outweigh the benefits of demanding accurate gold pricing. But the more they lean on this method for support and justification, the more dangerous it becomes. Measures like QE 1 & 2 are meant to be extraordinary measures, not ways of life. The smart money knows the longer this charade goes on, the more the chances of a crackup, and they are increasingly demanding physical. I'm not talking about your average ATS guy with a few gold keuggerands under his pillow, or even successful independent commodity traders...I mean the big players - Asian and Middle Eastern Sovereign Wealth funds, Indian and Chinese government policy, etc. These people are sloooooowly backing towards the door the longer the US refuses to set its house in order.


reply posted on 7-6-2011 @ 02:44 PM by neo96
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from my understanding is that you own the gold but the holder of that gold is held liable for it

this differs and is just like stocks basically you get a piece of paper showing "ownership" but with stocks they really dont exist except in cyberspace its value just like gold depends on the market and the supply and demand of either gold or stock.

the kicker is theirs no real proof of their values.

and the rub for me is that this government and obama doing a repeat of what fdr did when he stole gold from us and fort knox.


reply posted on 7-6-2011 @ 02:47 PM by OptimusSubprime
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Don't get me wrong, because I detest the Fed, but it is certainly a conflict of interest for the Fed to own gold and control the money supply. Considering that the Fed can create inflation at will, they could by default create an increase in the price of gold, then cash it in and then raise interest rates to combat the inflation and bring the price of gold back down. Then buy more and the cycle repeats. Now there's a conspiracy for you.
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