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Elenin is NOT a brown dwarf

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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I don't know i wasn't there.
But im pretty sure they call anti-matter ,BLACK holes for a reason.
It aint rocket science.
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"How did they observe it"
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So CERN scientist, are lying about the 17 minutes of "Observation" then.?,,
was there light emitted from the observation of the anti-matter,, my GUESS is no.
But like i said i wasn't there, so i guess they could be lying? and they "observed" nothing.

And if something like a sun goes supernova, how big are the piece's supposed too be? there a rule saying that "remnants must be of Jupiter size",,, cause i missed that memo/e-mail/update.

really i give up.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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But im pretty sure they call anti-matter ,BLACK holes for a reason.


This appears to be the source of your confusion. look the terms up.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by DJW001
 


I don't know i wasn't there.
But im pretty sure they call anti-matter ,BLACK holes for a reason.
It aint rocket science.
quote
"How did they observe it"
unquote
So CERN scientist, are lying about the 17 minutes of "Observation" then.?,,
was there light emitted from the observation of the anti-matter,, my GUESS is no.
But like i said i wasn't there, so i guess they could be lying? and they "observed" nothing.

And if something like a sun goes supernova, how big are the piece's supposed too be? there a rule saying that "remnants must be of Jupiter size",,, cause i missed that memo/e-mail/update.

really i give up.


It aint rocket science?
We know it isn't, it's about ten times more complicated.

Does anyone else not get what BobAthome is talking about at all? Does he just not understand the OP?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Ok i did,, it apparently has something to do with gravity??? density???, would have too go back too grade 8 high school science too explain it fully too you. look up Archimedes,, a greek guy. density? gravity? way too hard for a person too understand,, but hey if you can see a corelation in what we are discussing, maybe you can go to grade 9 science,, good luck.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by BobAthome
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Ok i did,, it apparently has something to do with gravity??? density???, would have too go back too grade 8 high school science too explain it fully too you. look up Archimedes,, a greek guy. density? gravity? way too hard for a person too understand,, but hey if you can see a corelation in what we are discussing, maybe you can go to grade 9 science,, good luck.






posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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A movie showing a large 2MASS image, with zooms to the Galactic Center and G1.9+0.3.


www.youtube.com...

So is Elenin the mysterious brown dwarf,, no it is not.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Sorry your wrong in that assumption.

No actually you are wrong. The only reason astronomers look for distance brown dwarfs with infrared is because that is what they emit. The reflected light is too weak if the objects are far away as in 10s or more light years away.

Brown dwarfs are the same composition as Jupiter and Jupiter does not radiate light, it reflects light.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Just speculation on my part,,has to do with density and wave lenghts.

Go ahead try me. Explain yourself.

In the mean time think about the fact that if anti-matter only absorbed light then where would all of the energy go?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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All comets should have tails. Good question!

It does have a tail.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by BobAthome
A movie showing a large 2MASS image, with zooms to the Galactic Center and G1.9+0.3.


www.youtube.com...

So is Elenin the mysterious brown dwarf,, no it is not.





Do you not understand how far away that is from our Earth? It would take millions or billions of years to even get there in our current space technology. It took voyager like 35 years to get past pluto and voyager isn't even CLOSE to a single light year.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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If Elenin produces a substantial gravitational effect in Sept. and still is very hard to spot, I vote for a black hole.

The gravitational effects of Elenin are not measurable. The object is small. There is a small coma. A black hole can't have a coma and as already stated would have a profound and measurable affect on the known planets.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Quakes are apparently not generally caused by gravitational interactions of other celestial objects. Only the Moon appears to affect quakes on earth and then only a few rare low intensity types of quakes. The Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Mars do not have an affect on quakes.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Quakes are apparently not generally caused by gravitational interactions of other celestial objects. Only the Moon appears to affect quakes on earth and then only a few rare low intensity types of quakes. The Sun, Venus, Jupiter, Mars do not have an affect on quakes.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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All comets should have tails. Good question!

It does have a tail.


Yep, it's faint because it's not close enough to the sun yet. Once they get closer to the sun they start melting.

Comet 17P/Homles had a HUGE tail and prominence that ended up being larger than the size of the sun in diameter.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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Maybe this will help to distinguish between a comet and supernova remnant

chandra.harvard.edu...

or this maybe

chandra.harvard.edu...
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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:04 PM
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I am not claiming to know what Elenin is but everyone will know what it is for sure when it gets close at the end of this year.

What does that matter? Why would it have to get closer?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Mr elenin has provided us with a little animation that shows what would happen to the orbits of the planets in our solar system if elenin was a brown dwarf. WHICH IT IS NOT. View full screen.

www.youtube.com...

It wont embed for some reason
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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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First there is the inexplicable confusion on black holes and anti-matter.
Now it is the inexplicable confusion on supernova remnants, and comets.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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"What does that matter?"
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Here you go hope this helps as well

www.youtube.com...


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And this would apply too Elenin,, just so there is no confusion.
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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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The issue is why does it matter if the object gets close. Instead of answering you posted a link to a video which has no bearing on the question.

Did you say this and later realize that getting closer is meaningless?



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