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And I dont disagree about the media using its influence in the past to warmonger. And yes, it is up to debate if its personal or profit motives that drove Hearst.

But, until very recently, until this latest push to "globalize" and the stunning success is separating economic interests from the nations interests, one could make some argument that the fortunes of individuals and businesses WERE the fortunes of the nation.

Now, its just not so on any level. Corporations are having a banner year. Profits skyrocketing. And America is swirling down the toilet. Unemployment is rampant.

Thats all Im arguing, is that while countries may have at one time improved their fortunes and sought profit by going to war, its simply not the case that COUNTRIES profit from war any more. They bear the COST of war. The profit goes into private hands, and hands that often have no ties to the nation paying the costs of that war, and no loyalty to those people or that nation.

You would not pay the costs of building a factory, and provide the labor for that factory, and then give it to someone you didnt even know, who might not even like you. Its ridiculous to do so. No one would. But because of globalization and the way corporations have gained control of "democracies" and are undermining the peoples ability to make their leaders work for the nations interests, the peoples interests, that is exactly what first world peoples are doing.

They are paying the costs of economic expansion in the middle east, and they are sending their children to die there, or be wounded there, and this time, in this economic climate, the profit is NOT returning to their nations. Especially in America.

It almost seems as if America is being deliberately bankrupted, and our "credit line" being deliberately exhausted to fund various economic schemes around the world. I can see why this would be the case, as it could force America to sell off its public assets like Greece is being forced to right now.

www.telegraph.co.uk...

But now the port is up for sale – alongside the sort of assets even Thucydides would never have envisaged – in the biggest and most controversial privatisation Greece has ever seen.

Under pressure to raise €50bn as the quid pro quo for its massive €110bn (£98bn) bail-out, Greece is being forced to hawk its industrial and commercial backbone to the highest bidder.

When smart people like you say "war is for profit, so what" you do a grave disservice to your country. It matters WHO that profit is going to. And who is paying for that war. If you care about your country, that is. If you dont, its a moot argument.

IF America were benefiting from the economic rape of the mid east, I would dislike it morally, but it would make a brutal practical sense for us as a nation. But America is being raped TO rape the mid east, and we are not the beneficiaries, but the people picking up the check.

And continuing to allow our politicians to rape our country to make other people rich is going to seriously come back to haunt us. NOTHING that is being done right now is for the benefit of America and her people. Its for the benefit of the big multinational corporations and banks. Not just in the US. Its a global trend towards governments selling out their nations.