posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 07:48 AM
Originally posted by ScepticDebunker
Its all lies and propaganda.
Like the Libya invasion....nothing to do with peace and safety of civilians....a way of stopping Gadaffi bringing in the Gold Dinar....which he would
only accept for OIL.
Excuse my language, but stop being such an ignorant fool. These days, people think everything is Western propaganda and although I cannot deny that
they have good reason to feel so due to the Iraq war, it does not mean everything is black and white. Meaning that the "axis" are merely portrayed as
such by the West and the West is in reality a purely evil and lying force.
Israel, Russia and the US all know that Iran already has a number of nuclear warheads. Iran has invested and spend a lot on developing the platform to
deliver the nuclear warheads while simultaneously the number of warheads and weapon grade plutonium is gradually increased.
Now why does Israel not mention this? They want it to look like a time against the clock as admitting that Iran already has nuclear weapons would not
exactly be helpful for gaining public support for an attack on the country. Iran, on the other hand, cannot admit they already have nuclear weapons as
it would give the "allies" a valid reason to attack them due to treaty breaches.
I am not choosing sides, I am merely explaining my opinion objectively. This in contrast to many on this forum who think that Iran is yet another poor
nation targeted by the evil West.
If you people would have done your research, you would know that Iran has actively sought to become a nuclear power and obtain weapon-grade plutonium
for more than two decades. If you believe that the hundreds of warheads and weapon-grade plutonium in Ukraine and Kazakhstan that have gone missing,
did not partly end up in Iranian ownership, you are a true fool.
Some food for thought:
*1992 Iran acquires nuclear weapons "ready for immediate use" from CIS countries, according to the German weekly Focus. The weapons are reportedly
"an atom bomb which can be dropped from an airplane and a launcher for missiles with nuclear warheads."
*February 1992. The Washington, DC-based Defense and Foreign Affairs Strategic Policy newsletter reports Iran is within two months of reassembling
nuclear warheads acquired from the former Soviet Union. Iran has hired nuclear scientists from Kazakhstan.
*March 1992. Paul Muenstermann, vice president of the German Federal Intelligence Service (BND), says that Iran received two of three nuclear
warheads and medium-range nuclear delivery systems that are missing from Kazakhstan. Iranian officials and the commander of the CIS Joint Armed
Forces reject these claims. Russian General Victor Samoilov, however, who handles disarmament issues for the CIS general staff, admits that three
nuclear warheads were missing from Kazakhstan. Also, Iran allegedly purchased four 152mm nuclear shells from the former Soviet Union, which were
allegedly stolen and sold by former Soviet Army officers. The Iranian Foreign Ministry denies these allegations. Lt. General Sergey Zalentsov, senior
commander of the United Armed Forces of the CIS and deputy-in-charge of all CIS nuclear arms, also rejects the reports. Iran reportedly received the
warheads from Kazakhstan through Bulgaria. However, Iran did not receive the necessary launch codes or missiles capable of carrying the warheads.
*US magazine US News and World Report quotes an unidentified high-ranking Russian officer as substantiating a US intelligence report that three
short-range nuclear weapons have disappeared from an arsenal in Kazakhstan. The US magazine reports the weapons have been sold to Iran.
*April 1992. The European of London reports that the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service has said that Iran definitely received two warheads
stolen from Semipalatinsk. The report says that the organization selling the weapons had ties to Kazakhstan President Nursaltan Nazarbayev.
*May 1992 Russian television reports that Russian intelligence has told the CIA that two nuclear warheads from Semipalatisk, Khazakhstan, were
sold to Iran and another unknown Middle East country with the permission of Kazakhstani President Nazarbayev. The warheads are of a capacity
ranging from 2 to 5 kilotons.
*11 April 1998, Labor MK Rafi Elul says that Israel and the United States have suspected for years that Iran acquired nuclear weapons smuggled from
the former Soviet Union. Elul reportedly met with an unknown US source, reportedly with longtime connections to the Israeli government, in March
1998 who said that in 1995 she gave both the CIA and Israel Iranian government documents on Iran's successful efforts to obtain nuclear weapons.
*Following a series of Jerusalem Post articles saying that Iran acquired nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union, two US Congressmen, Jim Saxton
and Bill McCollum, say that they have closely followed Iran's military programs and that Iran "has obtained nuclear weapons as well as established a
ballistic missile command-and-control system to launch them."
*1998 According to Iranian government documents in Israel's possession, Iran received several nuclear warheads from a former Soviet republic during
the early 1990s, THE JERUSALEM POST reported.
The documents have been deemed authentic by United States congressional experts and are still being studied in Israel. They contain correspondence
between Iranian government officials and leaders of Iran's Revolutionary Guards that discusses Iran's successful efforts to obtain nuclear warheads
from former Soviet republics. The documents appear to bolster reports from 1992 that Iran received enriched uranium and up to four nuclear warheads
from Kazakhstan, with help from the Russian underworld.
*"Iran does have nuclear weapons", General Yuri Baluyevsky, the Russian Deputy Chief of Staff told journalists, adding: "Of course, these are
non-strategic nuclear weapons. I mean these are not ICBMs with a range of more than 5,500 kilometers and more. But as a military man, I see no danger
of aggression against Russia by Iran."
*Goss, who came to Ankara just after FBI Director Robert Mueller’s visit, brought up Iran’s alleged attempts to develop nuclear weapons. It was
said that Goss first told Ankara that Iran has nuclear weapons and this situation was creating a huge threat for both Turkey and other states
in the region.
Now all of you deniers, tell me what motives the Russians had in 1992 and later to make up such a claim? The US, Israel, Germany and Russia have all
confirmed in the 1990s that Iran has obtained nuclear warheads. You are all going to dismiss this as propaganda?
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