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What nations will provide support to an American Regime Change ???

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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I know I myself would kill anything in a foreign uniform.
Foreign troops on US soil is a nogo.
That includes american troops with blue helmets, that means allegiance is not to US first.
I really don't think we will have support outside of equipment, cash and intel.
But I'm sure several countries will be rooting for the..."rebels".




posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by monkofmimir
I think the countries most likely to help are ones that have had issues with the us government in the past such as Iran, Russia, Cuba, North Korea.

The real question though would be should revolutionaries accept help from these countries?


SPOT ON !!!
that was the entire purpose of the thread.
You nailed it.

Those who seem to be your friend
do not always have your best interests
at heart and may exploit the situation.
Thusly the reason for asking WHO
in the OP.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by g146541
But I'm sure several countries will be rooting for the..."rebels".


probably over half the world could
be included in that category.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 


as your core question has already been answered - a more important one - is :

who would provide support for american regieme stability / stasis ?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

as your core question has already been answered - a more important one - is :
who would provide support for american regime stability / stasis ?


a very good follow-up question indeed.
You would probably see the UN and NATO
try to counter that as it is counter productive
to their world dominance agenda losing one
of their top pit bulls.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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If the banksters were smart, they would pour every ounce of gold into the old gumment as they are target number two.
After we handle interior traitors, the banksters are next.
Borders will not be an issue either as Pres.Shrub said we will pursue yada yada.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
NOTE: This is a hypothetical scenario.
So my question here would be:

If Americans take to the streets against their
tyrannical government, then WHO or what
outside nations or entities could those rely on for
support ??? Whether it be intelligence,
arms, humanitarian aid, etc .... to get this
nation back on track.

Who would aid and assist an American
insurrection ??? And who could be trusted
without an ulterior motive for a hijacking
of the Revolution ???


Hi.
Interesting question there.

I think that it may be painfully obvious that a possible snowballing like effect could occur in ways that are realistically anticipated->in my minds eye.

What I mean is that all nations who have the means to reach our shores will have equal motive, it will be a slaughter, and nothing good will come of it.

I don't know, maybe Canada really does have a soft spot for us?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

If the banksters were smart, they would pour every ounce of gold into the old gumment as they are target number two.


I believe they have already anticipated this
which would have been the primary reason
behind QE1 and 2.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:12 AM
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They're gonna need a bigger solution as it was not enough.
Plus the cash was funneled into corps that never shared the love, and we're still picking up the check.
They did it wrong methinks.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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a lot of folks keep thinking the ME is the boiling
point for WW3.

But just as alternative thinking goes,
what if the US itself is the boiling point
to kick off WW3.

An insurrection mounts, receives support
from unknown entities who eventually
overthrow the US Regime. Then NATO
attacks the US to quell the resistance
and those nations who supported the
resistance are caught in the middle.
making the US, the battle front lines
in WW3.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:16 AM
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Personally the support Americans would get would come via personal interest groups perhaps similar to NORAID and those types of groups will only come to light once the fuse has been lit.

I don't think any Government would openly support the American people.. but I think a number might turn a blind eye to those types of personal interest groups.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

They're gonna need a bigger solution as it was not enough.


ask urself the hard question,
why did QE1 & 2 NOT work as intended ???
Answer: because someone else is countering
their financial moves. And WHO do you think
that would be ???

remember DSK??
remember the Egyptian banker too ??
what do they have in common ???
IMF
edit on 6/7/2011 by boondock-saint because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by thoughtsfull
I don't think any Government would openly support the American people.. but I think a number might turn a blind eye to those types of personal interest groups.


but this American Regime openly supported
the Egyptian people AND the Libyan people ??
So who's to say another gov might do the
same thing for the Americans ???



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:24 AM
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I am just posing questions which make
folks think 3-4 moves in advance based
upon a hypothetical scenario.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:27 AM
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As a foreigner, well to you god damn yanks I am
perhaps I could give an external perspective to this.

When looking at who will help, you have to look at who benefits, the world doesn't really have a social concious and so only those with a vested interest will intervene one way or the other. The US like most westernised countries is actually ruled by the banks and large corporations with the finance to lobby (really I mean bribe) government, now these central banks are all linked, can you imagine any bank signing up to destroy its self?

What benefit would there be for the British government say, of the German or the French etc.. to see a regime change in the US? None, it affects their (meaning their central bank) status quo, and if they do intervene no doubt it would be to aide the incumbent government. I think the British, French German (and pretty much most of the western world) people would support the revolution, but the governments wouldn't, they may even send troops to support the government there. Look at Bahrain as an example, the people support the regime change there, but governments do not because it is not expedient for them, and allied countries like Saudi have sent troops to support the government.

There are 3 potential allies that might help and all of them are rotten apple in terms of support, they are Russia, China and a Arab nations (prominently Shia) and involvement with them would cause more trouble than it helps. Not that I have anything against Russian, Chinese or Arabic people, just the political fallout will have massive ramifications if they came to aide a revolution in the US

Sadly there wont be a major revolution in the US, the people are being dumbed down, turned into sheeple (just as here in the UK) the spirit of the country is broken, they live in fear and most don't want to see the truth, even here on ATS an alternative site you get people defending the actions of the Patriot Act, HLS and TLS, it beggars belief how far people have been brainwashed.

The only way to change things now is if the people go after the bankers themselves, take over the Fed, fort Knox, and the senate and congress, all in one day, destroy the banking system and you restore parity until then we are all slaves
edit on 7-6-2011 by PrinceDreamer because: Spelling & grammar



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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I guess it depends on who are the revolutionaries. What if the revolution is by young leftist student types the likes we have seen in Europe or what if the revolution comes from the right libertarians.

So depending on which side does the revolting. If its the left , then maybe the support would come from S.American countries. Revolution from the right would probably get the support of European countries who are sick of being in the EU.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I guess it depends on who are the revolutionaries. What if the revolution is by young leftist student types the likes we have seen in Europe or what if the revolution comes from the right libertarians.

So depending on which side does the revolting. If its the left , then maybe the support would come from S.American countries. Revolution from the right would probably get the support of European countries who are sick of being in the EU.


another good point indeed.
star 4 u

would the US be split up in such
a scenario with 2 governing
bodies or would it stand as one
nation ???

And I would agree, the EU is anything
but a role model for a one world type
government. They have more infighting
than the Hatfields and McCoys.
Whioch should be a prime example
of why a global governance would
not be sustainable.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:45 AM
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I too have had this thought, this is just another reason to reaffirm my position of any foreign uniform or blue helmet.
In my eyes any foreigner who cannot prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he/she has been here for a very long time and I mean reduces your accent long better go home before it happens, they are a target as well.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:46 AM
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in the event of a new american civil war britains military support of the us government would be even less popular in the uk than the iraq war. Also british forces fighting on american soil would make alot of americans very uncomfortable, also if the US begins fighintg itself I guarantee you the UK isnt far behind.

I doubt that the UK would get actively involved.


As for an american civil war, people won't react to humiliation, corruption or invasion of privacy but take away somthing they need like food and they will kill. Look at the world food markets things are going from bad to worse



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 03:51 AM
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Problem with that thought is banks did not start loaning the bailout money and get it into circulation.
It went to more exec bonuses, and offshore interests.
Peoples homes are foreclosed on at a breakneck pace.
If the US wanted to help the people the bailout would have gone to the people in the form of an amnesty program.
And the US would have dumped the fed to top off things.



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