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Venezuela cuts ties with U.S. over Iran (the Iron curtains first wall?)

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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tehrantimes.com


Venezuela has severed its relations with the U.S. after Washington imposed sanctions against Venezuela's state-owned oil company for supplying gasoline to Iran. According to examiner.com, Venezuela officially “froze” relations with the United States on Sunday, a top diplomat from President Hugo Chavez's government said.


Yep so screw you America wonder who's going to bend first. Head to head with Chavez nObama and his corporate shill squad don't have a chance. Well other than the usual criminal acts. But who cares its just Venezuela right?
You think this wont add a bit at the pump let alone how much its going to hurt US people that do business with them.

Just saying this could be just the beginning I know if we had an honest country we'd be looking to end our aid in their wars at the very least.
But first we'd need to end our serfdom to the elites that rule us to take back our own fates. Just like you do in the USA.




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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:09 AM
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I hate to be the pessimist but this looks like the beginning.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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Chavez is always popping off about cutting ties with the US. In Dec. 2010 there was another dispute.


Chavez, whose economy relies heavily on oil sales to the United States, has accused Palmer of dishonoring the Venezuelan government by expressing concerns on several sensitive subjects — including 2008 accusations by the U.S. Treasury Department that three members of Chavez's inner circle helped Colombian rebels by supplying arms and aiding drug-trafficking operations


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I am not sure it is the begining, more like in the middle. Chevez is much more dependant on the US than the US is on Venezuela. We can get our oil elsewhere but Venezuela has to find another place to sell oil to. US is their biggest oil buyer.

I am not sure of the politics behind the US putting sanctions on Venezuela but it does seem kinds lame. It is good to see Chevez put up a good bluff but I think that is all it is.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:14 AM
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Haha Obama got slapped in the face. Go Chavez!!
Seriously who [SNIP] does Obama think he is telling veneuzela to do business with?
This is a wakeup call to Iran to start their own gasoline infrastructure.

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:17 AM
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I did some searching and found a few more articles on this.

www.officialwire.com...


Venezuela's relations with the U.S. are frozen and President Hugo Chavez's government sees no possibility of improving them after its state oil company was hit with sanctions by Washington, the country's top diplomat said Sunday.



The U.S. and Venezuela have been without ambassadors in each other's capitals since July 2010, when U.S. envoy Patrick Duddy finished his assignment and left Caracas. Chavez later rejected Obama's nominee for ambassador, Larry Palmer, accusing him of making disrespectful remarks about Venezuela's government. That led Washington to revoke the visa of the Venezuelan ambassador.



The U.S. also imposed penalties on Venezuela's Military Industries Co. for violating the Iran, North Korea and Syria Nonproliferation Act by selling or buying sensitive equipment and technology related to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and ballistic missile systems.


And this one is from NKorea

www.kcna.co.jp...


Tehran, May 31 (KCNA) -- The Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson on May 28 critically accused the United States of its sanctions against Venezuela.



The U.S. illegitimate and arrogant actions will not (negatively) affect the resolve of the independent and freedom-seeking nations, he said, clarifying the stand of his country supporting the government and people of Venezuela standing against the U.S. sanctions.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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The U.S. illegitimate and arrogant actions will not (negatively) affect the resolve of the independent and freedom-seeking nations, he said, clarifying the stand of his country supporting the government and people of Venezuela standing against the U.S. sanctions.


iran and venezula are free? thats hilarious


no big loss



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by neo96



The U.S. illegitimate and arrogant actions will not (negatively) affect the resolve of the independent and freedom-seeking nations, he said, clarifying the stand of his country supporting the government and people of Venezuela standing against the U.S. sanctions.


iran and venezula are free? thats hilarious


no big loss


Well ya more free than the USA I hope. (Venezula that is dont know about Iran but if its like Libya not near as bad as our propaganda media makes it out to be)

Fact is this won't break the USA (it will hurt some honest Americans for sure) but if a few more countries jump in it very well could be the new Iron Curtain.

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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udat neither country is more free than us

venezula chavez owns everything he is the alpha and omega of that country.

iran is a religious fascist theocracy.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:52 AM
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Oh hey you didn't catch his dictator move years ago,his nationalizing industry.the oppression of all competition.?
Are you seriously that out of the loop?
Gad, NEWS TIME, this guy is a target.Russia is NOT our friend they are regrouping,China is in collusion with Iran and is currently engaged in a cold war against us.
North Korea is too crazy for everyone.Europe has been scared of us since Desert Storm (nobody knew we could do that Russian generals lost their jobs) and there are ,as we speak thousands of highly aggravated cold war vets are becoming enraged by the current political climate.
We do love you guys but I don't think all of you guys like us.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
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udat neither country is more free than us

venezula chavez owns everything he is the alpha and omega of that country.

iran is a religious fascist theocracy.



I know some people from there and they say its very free and that the poor and outs have seen a lot more support since Chavez took over. They have schooling medicare social services and all that now. Mostly thanks to the nationalization of oil.

Its still not perfect and Chavez does have his faults but he's no dictator. They are a democracy one that gives him a lot less power than say Obama has right now. Its not like here where the elites are taking everything and control the whole system.

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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 04:50 AM
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Clueless dude is clueless.


Did you know the primary critics of both these governments are the elitists who fled the countries after the people put their foot down(one way or the other)?

It will only take time for these countries to make appropriate laws. Whereas by then, the US will have to resort to martial law to control the population.

It's funny when you look at the big picture that way, in fifty to a hundred years people from China will be supporting the Americans plea for democracy!



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 09:46 AM
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Yep freedom in America is in a death spiral with many of these so called have not countries are booming under real democracy.
Funny how brainwashed people are about it tho.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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clueless not hardly

that comment coming from the iranian who thinks iran is just so great and yet doesnt live there.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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The country is great.

The people running it are not.

You were saying...?



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by UcDat
Its still not perfect and Chavez does have his faults but he's no dictator. They are a democracy one that gives him a lot less power than say Obama has right now. Its not like here where the elites are taking everything and control the whole system.



Chavez and his band of merry-men have set themselves up as the Elite in Venezuela. I'm sure some will try to justify this "type of freedom"

Venezuela seizes three banks, two others closed

Jan 18, 2010

CARACAS — The Venezuelan government of Hugo Chavez seized three banks and ordered two other financial institutions closed, as the country reeled from a currency devaluation he hopes will improving cratering state finances.

"In order to guarantee a healthy national banking and financial system, the board... has decided to intervene (with regard to) the following firms: InverUnion Banco Comercial; Banco Del Sol; and Mi Casa," banking regulator Sudeban said in a statement.

The closures come despite warnings that now regular business seizures could further spook foreign investors and undermine Chavez's efforts to put state revenues on a solid footing.

The nationalization of eight small- and medium-sized institutions last year prompted fears of a run on the country's banks, as investors moved to withdraw funds. It also sparked a dip in Venezuelan bonds and the country's currency in free trading.


Venezuela TV channels taken off air

The Venezuelan government has taken six cable television channels off the air for breaking a law on transmitting government material.

The privately owned RCTV International, openly opposed to President Hugo Chavez, is one of those affected. On Saturday the government had ordered RCTV to televise a government message, but the channel refused to comply. The communications director for RCTV, Gladys Zapain, told AFP there was "no prior notification" of the move.

Last week RCTV, along with 23 other cable channels, was redefined by the government as a national, rather than international broadcaster. As such, the channels would now be expected to carry presidential addresses and government campaign material in what is an election year in Venezuela.



'Act of justice': Venezuela seizes apartments

Critics of the expropriations and temporary state takeovers, including Chavez's political opponents and Venezuela's largest business chamber, warn the government's measures will scare off investors and aggravate the country's housing deficit.

More than 1 million of Venezuela's estimated 28 million inhabitants do not have adequate housing while millions more live in dangerous, labyrinth-like slums ringing the South American nation's cities.

The government plans to invest $1.5 billion next year to build homes for poor and middle-class families, Chavez announced Sunday.



posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Hi UcDat! What is the point of the thread again? Read up on Simon Bolivar!
Another thing I have been fortunate to do is live in South America; Ecuador, Columbia, Peru, and...wait...wait..VENEZUELA! It is not a cool place. It is a 3rd world military dictatorship that crushes dissent and no, you would not want to live there. Freedoms? Sure... when 95% of your poulation is eating whatever they can find that day, I suppose you have to let the peasants roam a little...one cool thing, the police in caracas drove crotch-rockets and had huge swords. Seriously.


CJ
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posted on Jun, 7 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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the country is not great nor its government nor those who were beating down the only great people of iran.

those who wanted change from the status quo were the truly great people of iran.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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Why don´t you talk about subjects you know more of. Instead of trying to form opinions about the `green revolution´ which so happened to be nothing more than theatrics by those behind the scenes of Iranian politics. But since you don´t know two craps about the politics in Iran, you have no idea what you are talking about and can only resort to things like: "oh but u don't live there". So? I don't live there but I know more about Iran and Iranians than you know about the place that you live in and the people around you.

Next shill please.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Zamini
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Clueless dude is clueless.


Did you know the primary critics of both these governments are the elitists who fled the countries after the people put their foot down(one way or the other)?

It will only take time for these countries to make appropriate laws. Whereas by then, the US will have to resort to martial law to control the population.

It's funny when you look at the big picture that way, in fifty to a hundred years people from China will be supporting the Americans plea for democracy!


Ya we certainly cant trust anything the mainstream media says nowdays. Besides even if they are a crazy evil dictatorship how's it our business? We go in steal the resources put in our dictators but somehow we never make things better. Maybe its cause we're not really the good guys? Who is you ask? I dunno but it aint NATO



posted on Jun, 9 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Achaemenid Empire

History of Iran

Cyrus Cylinder

Zoroastrianism

It IS a great country with history and knowledge unrivaled by many, many nations and empires of the past. The geography is simply beautiful.

You were saying what again?
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