Palin fans attempt to rewrite Paul Revere’s Wikipedia page

Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up".

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

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Originally posted by SaberTruth

Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up".

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

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That does not even help a little when you watch her actual answer again. She said he was riding his horse through town, ringing bells, to warn the british they would not be taking our guns.

Maybe your version is just missing the part where after capture, they gave him bells, a gun, and a horse. Then told him to ride around, shooting and ringing it while he confessed to them what they wanted to know.

That smells a lot like trying way to hard to me.

I, in no way, support Sarah Palin, but for the sake of this argument, I ask that those who claim these attempted changes to Wiki were made by her supporters provide proof. Show me proof that those who tried to make the changes were in fact Palin supporters. So far, all I’ve seen are typical left wing propaganda pieces from Huffington or Politico.

Without sufficent evidence to show the link between these revionists and their support for Sarah, I contend that these action were taken by those who irrationally hate and fear her in an attempt to further smeer her public image.

reply to post by amaster


In the context of this thread, why should that have come up? What about this thread has anything to do with Obama? How is it hypocritical of the OP to write a thread about people attacking Wikipedia without mentioning something unrelated about Obama?

Is the only defense of Palin that you have left "Well Obama sucks?"

reply to post by neo96


Neo

FDR is not the point and you know it. You said Obama supporters changed Wiki like Palin supporter did, he is the 44th President not the 32nd. Do you have anything on Obama supporters changing Wiki, like you said?

Aceto asked you to link your proof about this comment:

but its ok for Obama supporters to do so.

Answer this question, not some history facts about FDR everyone knows unless you did not go to American schools.

Since you answer has nothing to do with the question do we assume Obama supporter took all that information out of circulation about FDR like your response to Aceto question?

You bring up FDR, the 32nd President. I checked Wiki on FDR, went though the whole life story. Please let me know the Obama supporters that did this entry, because they forgot to get rid of all those things history has forgot, but , if you actually read the Wiki you bash you can see its in there........


You :

how many americans today know that he cheated on his wife?

Wiki:

Roosevelt allegedly had affairs outside his marriage, including one with Eleanor's social secretary Lucy Mercer which began soon after she was hired in early 1914. In September 1918, Eleanor found letters revealing the affair in Roosevelt's luggage, when he returned from World War I. According to the Roosevelt family, Eleanor offered Franklin a divorce so that he could be with the woman he loved, but Lucy, being Catholic, could not bring herself to marry a divorced man with five children

You:

how many americans today know that fdr locked up and threw her own american citizens into interment camps?

Wiki:

Enemy aliens and people of Japanese ancestry fared badly. On February 19, 1942, Roosevelt issued Executive Order 9066 that applied to everyone classified as an "enemy alien", including people who had dual citizenship living in designated high-risk areas that covered most of the cities on the West Coast. With the U.S at war with Italy, some 600,000 Italian aliens (citizens of Italy who did not have U.S. citizenship) were subjected to strict travel restrictions; the restrictions were lifted in October 1942. Some 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry were forced to leave the West Coast. From 1942 to 1945, they lived in internment camps inland. Those outside the West Coast, and in Hawaii, were not affected

You:

how many americans today know that fdr stole private property from the american public 2 fold one by confiscating american gold and stealing the gold from fort knox?

Wiki:

Executive Order 6102 made all privately held gold of American citizens property of the US Treasury. The goal was to counter the deflation which was paralyzing the economy.

You:

how many americans know that fdr was the creator of fanny mae?

Wiki:

In contrast to the first term, little major legislation was passed in FDR's second term. There was the Housing Act of 1937

The Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA), colloquially known as Fannie Mae, was established in 1938 by amendments to the National Housing Act.

en.wikipedia.org...

Neo even with your quotes below do you still stand by the fact that you have no proof, facts, documents, ect....

to set the record straight i do not support any revisionist history of any kind.
i do not trust any modern day sources on any given subject matter.
what i know what what i have lived through myself

what you call partisan logic i call putting the topic into proper context.

Not to paraphrase but its so funny the logic:

You claim something is true (Obama supporters changing information on Wiki), give not facts or evidence to support it, even reply off topic. In the same breath, you do not support revisionist history of any kind and all this partisan logic of Palin supporters changing an old story of Paul Revere in Wiki needs to be put in the proper context since FDR did so many things which you say are lost to history but were found in Wiki. Wow, do they sell full body waders for all you're dishing out today........

reply to post by Antiquated1


The corrilation that I brought up with the misspeach of both the president and Palin in regards to US history is that when he did it, no one seemed to care. It went virtually unnoticed by the media and the public, since as we all know, Obama can do no wrong. Yet when the media bullzeye Palin makes a mistake she is villified and branded a moron. That is what is hypocritical, not the OP.

Again, I don’t support the lady, but neither do I support this unfounded public hatered of her. The fact that Obama sucks is irrelevent.

reply to post by amaster


you're a good man, charlie brown.


stars for being fair and having open eyes.!

Originally posted by amaster
reply to post by Antiquated1

 

The corrilation that I brought up with the misspeach of both the president and Palin in regards to US history is that when he did it, no one seemed to care.

Bullsnip! The only reason you brought it up is because defending Palin is too hard but bashing someone else in return for something different is easy. Because it did come up. It came up right here. Obama Claims To Have Visited '57 States Video,
Obama Says He Has ‘Now Been In 57 States‘
Check this letter to Obama out... cools.., page 1
etc. You might want to add your comments about that past event to one of those threads. It has nothing to do with this thread, topic, palin, anything she said. She was wrong and refused to admit it. Deal with the reality of Palin instead of looking past her to find something else to compare it too.

Basically people like you are setting up her entire campaign slogan to be "I am only as stupid as you think Obama is anyway so why not?"

It went virtually unnoticed by the media and the public, since as we all know, Obama can do no wrong. Yet when the media bullzeye Palin makes a mistake she is villified and branded a moron. That is what is hypocritical, not the OP.

I can actually understand messing up a number when talking a lot and giving speeches. I have a harder time with you rambling on, maing stuf up, to cover up your ignorance, then cry you were hit with a "Gotcha" because you were asked "What have you seen today and what will you take away from that."

Can you really not see the difference between the two? Now if Obama went on MSNBC and stated that he was tricked and somehow amazingly also right then you would have had a case.

Can you explain why Palin says she was right, and she was tricked?

Again, I don’t support the lady, but neither do I support this unfounded public hatered of her. The fact that Obama sucks is irrelevent.

edit on 6/7/2011 by amaster because: (no reason given)

Yes it is irrelevant but so far that is all you have added to this thread.

reply to post by Antiquated1


Yes, Obamas mistake was brought up here on ATS, but we are hardly an MSM outlet. Google that incident and find an MSNBC, or Huffington, or Politico article about it where Barack is torn a new hole for his ignorance. They don’t exist.

And my “defending of Palin” as you call it, by bashing Obama, is no different than someone deffending Obama by bashing Bush. Six of one, half dozen of another. Yet the fact that the media so viciously covers her every move despite no announcements from her that she is running for office should be a red flag. Propaganda and media manipulation in our current society to ensure another victory for our dear savior and president Barack.

I’m also glad you can understand the president when he misreads his telepromter since he can’t speak without it. But I guess that same undestanding is not extended to Palin when she makes a historically inacurate comment in her tour of speaches. As to why she claims that she is right, I can’t tell you. My best guess would be a poor attempt to defend herself.

What I feel I’ve added to this thread is opposition. I’m sorry if I don’t agree with the general consensus, but that’s sort of the point.

reply to post by neo96


Neo, I often disagree with you. I respect the way you're honest and stick to your guns though. I find it refreshing that you don't care what other people think.

But defending Palin simply because you hate leftist politics? That's a bit much.
That would be like me defending Weiner's weener by saying the Bush administration drafted TARP. It just doesn't add to the discussion or make any sense.

Paul Revere's ride had nothing to do with gun control!

FYI - The Question was after she visited the Old North church in Boston..."The focal point of Paul Revere's ride"

It wasn't a gottcha question!

What's next? When she visits the Lincoln memorial will it be a Gotcha question when a reporter asks her her thoughts about Lincoln?

Her doey eyed attempt to feign intelligence is best appreciated in video...Her arrogance combined with her painful ignorance is what gives her an outstanding comedic quality. She is like a real life female version of a Will Ferrell SNL character.

Originally posted by amaster
Yet Barry states:

"It is just wonderful to be back in Oregon. And over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states; I think one left to go."

And no one seems to care.

Hypocrites

Lies LIES!! .. untill I searched and wouldn't you know it.

reply to post by anon102


Anon, you're missing the point
Obama knows there are 50 states. He made a gaff.

Palin really has no clue as to the historical significance of Who Paul Revere was or what he did. She is in the Tea Party. The grass roots party which favors actions by men such as Paul Revere. She's an oportunistic moron.

Originally posted by spinalremain

Palin really has no clue as to the historical significance of Who Paul Revere was or what he did. She is in the Tea Party. The grass roots party which favors actions by men such as Paul Revere. She's an oportunistic moron.

Notice the theme? Palin thinks Paul Revere warned the British.
Bachmann thinks the founding fathers ended slavery.

A movement who screams repeatedly about the founding fathers whose spokespeople know absolutely nothing about that period in history...not even the when or who of the matter. The irony is if they succeed in obliterating the educational sytem in the USA there will eventually be very few people who realize they are making crap up as they go along.

The problem isn't that Sarah Palin is completely uneducated on the history she claims to cherish...it's that there are too many educated folks in the USA that are able to realize she is talking out of her ass.

All we need to do is take steps to dumb down the populace a few notches. less of those "elitists" with all of their facts and history!!!

Lets start by calling Universities "Socialist". If anyone asks for a definition of "Socialist" call them Socialist.
Next let's get rid of teacher benefits, unions and lay a million of them off. We need less qualified teachers and less incentives for smart people to become teachers.
Let's eliminate college grants and loans and educational assistance programs.
While we are at it let's abolish the Department of Education.

If we just stay the course, pretty soon Sarah Palin will be the smartest woman in the room. Problem solved.

Obama also wrote the wrong date while visiting England, then spoke during the playing of God Save the Queen, Brit National Anthem (a no-no). and he said Hirohito was on the USS Missouri signing the treaty at the end of WWII.
the point is how the media establishment shouts Palin's alleged gaffe from the housetops and ignores Obama's.

any public figure is going to gaffe occasionally, considering how often they talk.

You are all arguing about the real story of Paul Reverse but I think the main point here is that if Revere had a gun, a bell, and a horse, he would probably need three or four hands.

Originally posted by works4dhs
Obama also wrote the wrong date while visiting England, then spoke during the playing of God Save the Queen, Brit National Anthem (a no-no). and he said Hirohito was on the USS Missouri signing the treaty at the end of WWII.
the point is how the media establishment shouts Palin's alleged gaffe from the housetops and ignores Obama's.

any public figure is going to gaffe occasionally, considering how often they talk.

I can agree to what you wrote 100 percent. The thing is though............being who Palin is and what she's supposed to represent, makes it extremely difficult not to question her real intentions. Yes, Obama should know that Hirohito wasn't on the USS Missouri when the treaty was signed, but that's not nearly as elaborate a brain fart. These people represent us. In your instance above, what's worse? Not knowing which Japanese representatives were aboard the Missouri or not knowing who Paul revere was?
If we're going to scrutinize, we have to admit that there are acceptable gaffes and unacceptable ones. Being a representative of the Tea Party means you should at least be aware of American history as it pertains to the American revolution. Isn't that the Tea Party's deal?

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
for reference, what Palin actually said:

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed,"

Really? This is really what she said. (UH, lol) Man I wonder how that woman can even function with as few brain cells as she seems to have. A politician that doesn't know the basics of history, or at least the twisted version...hehe

Also for anyone interested. Paul Revere didn't make the historical ride into Concord MA to warn that "the British are coming". He rode into Lexington the day before warning that "the Regulators are coming" (what they called the British Army). On the day we all know so well, (April 18, 1775) Revere and 2 other people, a man named William Dawes, and a man named Samuel Prescott, were on their way to Concord to warn the citizens about British troop movements. They got spotted by a British patrol. Revere got captured, Dawes headed back toward Lexington, and Prescott continued on to Concord (HE'S the one that warned Concord and not in any 'The British are coming' nonsense way, he went in there and told them that the British were in the area). Revere got released the following day and had to return to Lexington on foot, they'd kept his horse.
Not sure why they chose Revere to be the one who did everything, while the other 2 were left out. Speculation is that Revere rhymed better then Prescott and so Henry Wadsworth Longfellow picked him when he wrote "The Landlord's Tale: Paul Revere's Ride", or better known by everyone as "The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere". Which starts out to read..

"Listen, my children, and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere..."

I love history and finding out how much is left out and rewritten will never cease to fascinate me. Palin though, wow, there are no words to describe just what kind of (uh, or should she just go ahead and say duh) moron she is.



Edit to add: Dang it rgzing beat me to the story lol, haha a fellow history buff!

The saddest thing here is that the people who support palin consider themselves patriots of the highest order, when palin had no clue who paul revere was or what he did.

I am done caring. This country is like a fat woman who keeps going back to her abusive drunk boyfriend, then says "You just dont know him!". It deserves what it gets, I am getting out of here.

reply to post by Phage


It's only a "gotcha" question when it is asked while you are on a historical tour while visiting the Revere museum house. Please, let's at least put this blindsided attack in perspective. It's not like she was asked to list five elements off the periodic table.

CJ