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Originally posted by firepilot
if you watch at 3:11 in the video the guy says something about taking samples from behind a plane and have it analyzed. She then says" I don't know how to do that, I'd like to try"
I am not sure how much more simply this can be explained. Hire a test jet like this one:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/674568543d5b.jpg[/atsimg]
to fly directly behind a suspected chemtrail, and have the results tested by an independent lab.
My God, this is not rocket science. It's a simple task. I think the only reason this is not done is because it would end the conspiracy and negate any future money to be made from people buying into this fantasy.
Originally posted by baddmove
contrails and clouds for that matter since they are the same, do not show up on any kind of radar.
I was reading your thread when i saw that sentence..
so i have to ask..
What does a doppler radar show?
Originally posted by XmikaX
since this thread fails, for example (because there are many more - like the patents on chemtrails) to mention that many countries like russia and spain admit to spray stuff in the air for climate control purpose,
then this thread is 100% complete disinfo crap following some sick agenda that has nothing to do with denying ignorance
edit to clarify : it is very well known disinfo "debunk" method to address the weakest points of a theory to discredit it, while ignoring the real reasons of concernedit on 7-6-2011 by XmikaX because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Uncinus
Some potential motivation for the chemtrail hoaxers: selling quack remedies to the people that they scare.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1320e239a2e4.jpg[/atsimg]
Or this guy, selling ionic foot baths
Now, I think some of the people promoting these remedies genuinely believe both in chemtrails, and in the medical problems, and in the efficacy of their remedies. But regardless, if someone has a financial incentive to promote something, then you should always double check what they are saying.
William Thomas used to sell vitamins to counteract the effect of "chemtrails". Now he's got a nice cottage industry selling fear based books:
willthomasonline.net...
Insane Cloud Posse
Originally posted by firepilot
Uncinus, would you be willing to post a concise rebuttal of the WITWATS nonsense? You have done it in a pretty documented manner, and didnt you ever correspond with one of the makers about it?
Originally posted by firepilot
, and didnt you ever correspond with one of the makers about it?
Project Plane Tracker is well underway, and we have learned a great deal in the first few weeks. One of those lessons is that some of the data we have been collecting still will not close the case for many skeptics. It is tempting to just dismiss them as incurably brainwashed and not even try to answer their questions, but I feel that the better path is to dig deeper and try harder. I was once a skeptic, myself, and the fact that they are not yet in agreement with us is, I think, more of a reflection on us than them. In all honesty, we can do better – and we shall.
One of the issues omitted from the documentary, What in the World Are They Spraying, was an explanation of the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Because of that, many people think we don't know that contrails are real or that, under certain atmospheric conditions, they actually can look like chemtrails; so we are constantly bombarded with emails referring us to books and web sites that say what we think are chemtrails really are just old-fashioned contrails, and we are ignorant fools for thinking otherwise.
since this thread fails, for example (because there are many more - like the patents on chemtrails) to mention that many countries like russia and spain admit to spray stuff in the air for climate control purpose, then this thread is 100% complete disinfo crap following some sick agenda that has nothing to do with denying ignorance
Compared to Don Croft and his Orgone pyramids and parasite devices, those prices above are absolutely cheap.
Its not coincidence at all, that the biggest promoters of chemtrails, usually had things for sale. Thats a point the Insane Cloud Posse would rather not admit to, so they try to assert, without evidence, than anyone posting against the chemtrail religion, is doing so out of monetary gain.
www.ctbusters.com...
The devices we sell are not intended to treat disease, support or sustain human life, or to prevent impairment of human health; for self-education and research purposes only. Although some of us or our customers may be interested in the research and statements of Dr. Hulda Clark, this company, its web site and owner do not adopt any health or disease related claims based on her work or otherwise. Our products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
www.worldwithoutparasites.com...
With the introduction of T-Rex and our link to the inexpensive Basic Zapper we've decided to stop offering refunds for all of our products. ... If you feel particularly skeptical about the claims made for zappers, why not first try the inexpensive Basic Zapper from ctbusters.com (see isclaimer", above, then if you like what it can do you may want to try a Terminator.
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I'm a naturally skeptical person and I advise people to never accept claims blindly. We still prefer to sell our products by referral.
Thanks,
Don Croft
www.lifequestformulas.com...
Chemtrails Defense Pack $144.00 $119.95
Dr. von Peters developed ChemBuster several years ago to get the chemtrails toxins and mycoplasmas out of your system. If you have not seen the ChemBuster website at www.chembuster.us you can take a look at it there. It has been used effectively by our customers, and some have stated that it saved their lives.
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These supplements and remedies taken together will help your body get rid of the effects of the chemtrails spraying and rejuvenate your immune system.
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Note: These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Originally posted by firepilot
Here is another site that misrepresents, in order to spread fear.
geoengineeringwatch.org...
Notice how they have stolen a pic from airliners.net, edited it and used it as their banner photo. They used to have this labeled as a KC-135 a couple of months ago. And again, more of the faulty "spray nozzles" claim,
Sponsored the production of the documentary "Sky Lines."
Provided public presentations at libraries in Sacramento, Placer, El Dorado, and cities in the Yolo County.
California Skywatch was created by Rosalind Peterson in 2002.
Originally posted by firepilot
at :22, In German it does not say that airplanes are changing the climate, but the hoax translation does.