i didn't notice the other responses, hence this double post.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Just to add here, they found some old timbers on the mountain, that date to the time.
I am unfamiliar with this information. Can you point me to the source?
Here's the problem: The flood story can be found over a large geographical area, including South America. I know I'm gonna catch hell for this, but
I'm still convinced that the Earth has been flooded,
Ok here comes hell. Mwa haha. There is no reason to connect all the flood myths in the world with each other. The sumerian and jewish flood myth,
yes, i think a thats pretty good connection. But not all. Floods are common. There's no reason for them to not be multiple, independant, and
local. Also, think about it, civilizations tended to pop up along rivers. Rivers, quite often catastrophically, flood.
Do you have any evidence for a global flood? How come there are no flood sediments for this event? Where does the water for all this flooding come
Anybody ever heard of the Ice age. When ice melts it turns into water. Thats were you get global flooding. Well with global warming were pretty much
screwed. Nice job General Motors for screwing our ozone.
The water frozen at the poles has been melted in the past. It is not enough to cover the entire planet. Yes, a larger portion does get flooded tho,
but this hasn't happened in historical times. Also, during an ice age, much more water is frozen in this manner. Currently, we're in an
interglacial period, which ice at the poles, but not huge continental ice sheets most everywhere else.
that old dragon murdering saint said:
Some stones with holes bored in them were found in those mountains.They speculate that they were mooring stones for the ark.
Stones with holes in them? Where did you get this information, I have not heard it before. I couldn't make any sense out of your last sentence,
could you explain it to me again?
gregor samsa's surprise said:
The Chinese also have a flood myth, of one "Nu Wah" who built a boat and was saved from the deluge along with his wife and six children. The word
for "Boat" in chinese is a combination of the words "Mouth" and "Eight".
see this site also
this website says
The Chinese character for boat (chuan 2) consists of the boat radical on the left and a phonetic element on the right. The phonetic element has two
parts. The upper part is a primitive ideograph for "divide", though it looks the same as the character for "eight." The lower part is the
pictograph for "mouth." However, these two elements have only phonetic significance. The boat which the character refers to is a small coastal
craft, nothing like an ark.
Noah's Ark carried very many more than eight mouths.
No actual flood myths from China include an ark with eight passengers.
Here in Arizona the Natives believe the white layer at the top of Superstition Mountain marks the highwater of the flood
I never said flood myths weren't world wide. That makes no effective difference. The white layer, is it infact a flood deposit. Its nice that the
natives beleive it is, but what do the geologists think of it? Ironic that its called 'Superstition Mountain'.
in response to your website cite, i cite this one
which looks to address all the major
the response site:
The metal traces which were interpreted as iron brackets were actually goethite, a hydrated iron oxide. This mineral was thoroughly mixed with clay,
calcite, quartz, and anthophyllite particles, and it showed a large amount of chemical variability across the sample. Neither of these properties
would occur in smelted iron.
The purported walls of the ark are limonite concentrations. Their boat-like shape is consistent with an eroded doubly-plunging syncline. The stresses
of such folding commonly cause fractures that cut across the layers. Water moving through these fractures would have produced the limonite
concentrations which were interpreted as dividing walls.
In short, the structure is consistent with the following geological history:
Rocks formed when sediments eroded from nearby volcanic rocks and were compacted.
These layers were folded into a doubly plunging syncline.
A marine sea eroded a channel into the rocks and deposited fossiliferous limestone in it.
The land was uplifted, and erosion removed most of the limestone and exposed the fold.
A landslide carried blocks of rock and mud around the synclinal structure.
This interpretation is consistent with the structure itself and with the surrounding geology.
No fossilized wood or traces of wood, reed, or elemental carbon were found associated with the structure.
In my openion a global catastrophe happend, most likely a meteor landing in the Atlantic ocean, which caused tidal floods and geologic instability and
gave birth to many so called flood myths including the Noah story as well as the destruction of Atlantis. Anthrapologic and geographic evidence points
to a world wide meteoric - siesmic event to have happend around 1200 B.C.E.
What evidence for a meteor impact? Also, if it did cause a global flood, where is the evidence for it? Also, why would a large boat with all the
animals in it be built if it was a tidal wave that swept the earth? How would a structure like the ark survive a fantastically gi-normous tidal wave
like that? Why would there also be stories about being out to water for much longer than a tidal wave would involve? And think about it, an impact
large enough to send a tidal wave across in entire planet, wouldn't that be such a large impact as to be wildly more destructive than merely flooding