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Originally posted by Avenginggecko
reply to post by ker2010
Nobody supports "illegal immigration" - We all want to reform it. The problem is unfortunately ignorant people like you who don't have any desire to really reform immigration in a meaningful way.
The illegals here will never all be deported. Deal with it. Move on and try to find a constructive solution. There is no Democrat or Republican candidate who will commit US troops to rounding up the millions and millions of immigrants in the US.
We are not going to put automated turrets along the border or pass "kill on sight" laws. Deal with it. Find a better solution.
It's people like you that make illegal immigration a problem in the first place. If we actually were able to implement real reforms and make immigration easier, then the illegal problem would go away and we would be able to appropriately track our immigration. As it is, there are too many naive Americans who fear some kind of "brown" wave and believe that human migration is somehow stoppable that real reform will be impossible until demographic changes marginalize you to the point of obscurity.
Look for this to happen over the next decade as all of those scary anchor babies who are citizens begin to go more and more into the voting pool. You want to know what the future looks like? Just look to California, Colorado, and Nevada. Even in an amazing Republican year like 2010, they couldn't dominate those states. Expect that situation to happen more and more frequently as the old angry faux Tea Party faction of the Republican wing begins to die out and is replaced by a multi-cultural and firmly to the left generation of Americans.
There really just isn't anything you can do about it. At the very worst the status quo will be maintained.
Originally posted by brianmg5
reply to post by ker2010
I would support it. I am a "bleeding heart" as you so kindly mention in your OP. It makes more sense to me as a human being that I would want to help my fellow human beings in providing them with basic needs. For me it's just common sense that we would have a system in place which supports all of our basic needs. But we don't.
Ideally, In my humble opinion, we would all chip in enough so that half the world doesn't have to starve, live in filth, watch their children die because they don't have any money.
In other words, I would love to see our "basic needs" (food, healthcare, housing, etc) be socialized while everything else remains capitalized. But I understand that until most of the population desires the same thing, it's not possible because it would have to be enforced. But one can dream.
However, the republicans and tea party have overplayed their hands so badly since the midterm that I wouldn't be surprised if the demo's enjoy real power in 2012. Mix in a new economic collapse coupled with public outcry demanding economic reform...the dream may be realized sooner rather than later.