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What Undeniable Proof Do You Have To Prove Aliens Are "Demons"

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posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
I have had an interest in Extraterrestrial since i was a kid and im pretty much sure that they are from another planet/star system/dimension but i just dont see any real evidence that supports the theory that they are Messagers Of Deception and that they are Demons. So please bring clear evidence of an demonic possession due to Aliens or anything that is demonic and could be caused by aliens.


Why would you put this under Religion if you don't want to hear anybody talk about religion in regards to Aliens?

And, can you PROVE aliens are not demons? Prove it, you believe it to be true prove it. Tell me some alien abduction cases which were loving? Just a few.




posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by ObvTruth
I feel you. Im not really trying to smash your "beliefs". I just wanted to know why you believe that.


Because I believe in "aliens" and UFOs. I have for a very long time. I'm also a Christian. And I do not think the two are irreconcilable. In fact, I believe an "alien invasion" etc will be the great deception spoken of in the end times.

Satan will have a difficult time explaining the rapture of the church when it happens. He'll have to claim it was aliens who were our creators and they had to remove the folks that would never agree to the New Age agenda. (Born-again believers) Satan needs to come up with something fast when that event takes place.


You are correct NOTurTypical. I feel the same way.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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But my opinions are actually based on facts unlike you. Sure respect the people who blatently ignore the fact that people have seen and photographed physical metalic craft and that people have seen physical ET's. Ignore that if you want to. I have documented facts you on the other hand have mearly stories.


1. If those are "documented facts" why are we still anxiously awaiting disclosure?

2. "mearly' isn't a word.

3. None of those researchers, nor myself ignore the evidence of UFOs or aliens. They don't, I don't. We both do not deny their existence.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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The ETH doesn't hold water. The Interdimensional Hypothesis does. Once you get to that point, you start to consider what others have had to say about the nature of our "visitors."


Thanks to Mr. Jacques Vallee, someone the OP rejects outright without even reading what he has to say.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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demons are "beings of darkness" they can be killed. i don't know about aliens, but i never heard of any dead ones recently.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Demons cannot be killed. The ones Jesus encountered screamed out for Him to not send them to the pit/abyss to be tormented before their appointed time.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by ObvTruth
...Ive researched ET's enough to know that they have been visiting for even before Religion was even created. And from all the physical proof of metalic craft and people actually being in contact with ET's...
When was religion "created" then and where is the "physical evidence" of metallic craft you mention?

When anyone who is even slightly educated in UFO's can back up their claims with recent UFO sightings, MASS UFO Sighting, and evidence from the past of ET visitation.
Not sure I've managed to find that statement coherent, but what makes your "education" superior to Christian researchers?

We've proven our self. You guys just post verses from the Bible and posting stuff about endtimes even though no one has been right about any endtimes at all.
We don't just post verses from the bible. Where have you been. One of the things we've posted is on record statements from a variety of researchers (some of the best) that liken the phenomena to, as Keel put it, "the age old demonological problem."


Then there's the consistent messages from "contactees" that show a remarkable interest in denying the work of Christ and even go so far as to claim him as one of theirs. Why this preoccupation with Christ yet no mention of Buddha or Muhammad? Can't you see the possibility of an agenda in that?

Have you looked at ancient accounts of interdimensional visitations? They are remarkable in detail to UFO "abductions." If real, they certainty don't seem to be our friends.

Nuts & Bolts craft would be hard put to achieve the "abilities" that many of these "craft" are reported as having.

"Proof" can only be a personal conclusion in light of the fact that no solid concrete evidence exists for the ETH or IDH. So the question of the OP is flawed in it's construction.

You should read more on the subject before espousing your opinion. Just like the ETH literature, you have to wade through some kooks and poor researchers, but there are nuggets here and there that should make one think. Peace.
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When was religion "created" then and where is the "physical evidence" of metallic craft you mention?


Christianity was founded in 30 AD

Islam was founded in 600 AD

"Judaism has existed for more than 3000 years. The nation of Israel was formed around 1400 BCE"

As for your proof of metalic UFO's:







Thats proof....Also:

Tanzania- 29,000 YEARS OLD



Prehistoric India


Both these UFO cave paintings are thousands of years old proving we have been seeing them for centuries!

Friend or Foe, something or someone has been engaging this planet for thousands of years and there is too much evidence, its overwhelming. You need to have an open mind about these things.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by ObvTruth
 



But my opinions are actually based on facts unlike you. Sure respect the people who blatently ignore the fact that people have seen and photographed physical metalic craft and that people have seen physical ET's. Ignore that if you want to. I have documented facts you on the other hand have mearly stories.



1. If those are "documented facts" why are we still anxiously awaiting disclosure?


The Government can hold a lie well. What can i say


2. "mearly' isn't a word.


Ok. Coming from the person who didnt know what evidence means...



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by chloe4412

Originally posted by ObvTruth
I have had an interest in Extraterrestrial since i was a kid and im pretty much sure that they are from another planet/star system/dimension but i just dont see any real evidence that supports the theory that they are Messagers Of Deception and that they are Demons. So please bring clear evidence of an demonic possession due to Aliens or anything that is demonic and could be caused by aliens.


Why would you put this under Religion if you don't want to hear anybody talk about religion in regards to Aliens?

And, can you PROVE aliens are not demons? Prove it, you believe it to be true prove it. Tell me some alien abduction cases which were loving? Just a few.


The reason i put it here is because i wanted to talk with Religious people about this. If i put this in the Alien category everyone would be agreeing with me and that its utter BS. I actually want to debate here.


Sure. Seeing as how no one in history has never photographed, video taped, or reported seeing a Demon leads me to believe that they probably dont exist in the first place. But i could be wrong. 2ndly the Bible says nothing about anything about either Aliens/ET's, ExtraDimensional Cratures, Time Travelers or what ever is engaging our planet telling a lie. Im pretty sure if the Bible is as factual they would at least describe Aliens or say that they say they are ET's or from another dimension but the Bible doesnt say that.

Though most abductions are for medical reasons, some of the abductees say that the Aliens show them the future of our race based on our decision. Weither this is fact or not has yet to be proven. But none of it screams Demonic at all.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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Maybe you should take a look at this OP: www.youtube.com...

I think this video documentary may help you to understand a bit better (or not). Although, it is over 40 parts & I DON'T agree to every part of 'The Deception Project'...The video clearly makes very valid points on Ancient Alien Theory, Sitchin, Annanaki, etc.

P.S. Before posting this, I used the search bar on 'Deception Project' to find only 2 threads on this, with very few posts! Just wondering why this series hasn't been put out in the same fashion as 'Zeitgeist', 'The Arrivals' etc.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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40 parts...Holy crap bro. Im not watching 40 parts, just tell me the best parts to watch please.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Some aliens could just be mean and some could be nice. You cant generalize a whole race of interdimensional/out space beings.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Shepp
Some aliens could just be mean and some could be nice. You cant generalize a whole race of interdimensional/out space beings.


THANK YOU! Finally whos on my level when it comes to this.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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1) Assuming both are real, and not the same thing, demons would be easier to come into contact with by far, meaning the demons are mistaken for aliens entirely to often.

2) The things that occur when they show up cannot be explained by science or natural causes, which always leaves the human believing there must be something else out there.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by siren8
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1) Assuming both are real, and not the same thing, demons would be easier to come into contact with by far, meaning the demons are mistaken for aliens entirely to often.



Orly? Can you post something that can prove that?



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:18 PM
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Yeah, also, if there was a whole evil alien race, what about the OTHER alien races out there? Some must be benevolent, they probably even believe in God in some way.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Shepp
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Yeah, also, if there was a whole evil alien race, what about the OTHER alien races out there? Some must be benevolent, they probably even believe in God in some way.




They are many races of aliens. Some "insiders" say that there are 57-60 species of ET's. I think they were probably like us at one time, seeking how we they came to be but eventually they gave up and just dropped Religion as a whole, if we did that we'd thrive as a race and in 5000 to 10,000 years from now we could be visiting other worlds too.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:43 PM
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Part 1-8 my friend
Once it starts going into 'Hollow Earth' then it starts veering away from reality a little & more into the conspiracy phase of the series


Either way, pretty interesting to watch. Let me know your thoughts on it



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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Do you believe in God, a Creator of the Universe, OP?

If so, where does your thread lie, in relation to your beliefs on God & religion and how everything fits in?

If not, ignore.



posted on Jun, 6 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by SmoKeyHaZe
Do you believe in God, a Creator of the Universe, OP?

If so, where does your thread lie, in relation to your beliefs on God & religion and how everything fits in?

If not, ignore.



I believe in a Creator. But i dont believe any Religion is the one true answer as many people think it is. I also believe that ET's have been engaging our planet for a very long time and even tampered with our DNA, seeing as there are gaps in our evolution that would suggest we got a boost from an advanced race.



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