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Sounds fascinating...I'm interested in seeing how this unfolds.
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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 04:53 PM by AQuestion
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Dear sigil23,
It wasn't me and I don't know. It may not be a "secret society" so much as other people who have a similar set of questions and answers seeking to get together and discuss it outside of ATS. I myself do that; though, I very much doubt it was the same people. Just a suggestion; but, why not just e-mail them back and ask them to clarify what they were offering, if you wish to find out. Be well.
Dear sigil23,
It wasn't me and I don't know. It may not be a "secret society" so much as other people who have a similar set of questions and answers seeking to get together and discuss it outside of ATS. I myself do that; though, I very much doubt it was the same people. Just a suggestion; but, why not just e-mail them back and ask them to clarify what they were offering, if you wish to find out. Be well.
reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 05:00 PM by sigil23
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Much to my chagrin, the specific person that sent me the message that is in my op has not contacted me again. I may have annoyed him. I am not sure if that is the end of the exchange or not.
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There have been a few other times that similar things have happened, though.
One time in Key West in 2006, I was approached in an alley behind a friend's house by an individual who knew my name, though I did not know who the heck he was. He did not tell me his name or even why he was speaking to me, but he told me in a reassuring manner that he wanted to make sure that I was alright, and that if I needed his help, I would easily be able to find him. He also offhandedly mentioned that he was amongst others who shared a similar concern for me. I thanked him, but there was not much else I could say.
The whole thing had this odd tone or vibe, because he approached me in the manner of a concerned family member, but even though he seemed to be at ease around me, I had no clue why it felt that way. There has always been a strange feel to that memory in my mind, as if other things were said that did not stick in my memory due me being startled and the fact that my meeting this fellow only took maybe 15-20 seconds at the most.
Much to my chagrin, the specific person that sent me the message that is in my op has not contacted me again. I may have annoyed him. I am not sure if that is the end of the exchange or not.
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There have been a few other times that similar things have happened, though.
One time in Key West in 2006, I was approached in an alley behind a friend's house by an individual who knew my name, though I did not know who the heck he was. He did not tell me his name or even why he was speaking to me, but he told me in a reassuring manner that he wanted to make sure that I was alright, and that if I needed his help, I would easily be able to find him. He also offhandedly mentioned that he was amongst others who shared a similar concern for me. I thanked him, but there was not much else I could say.
The whole thing had this odd tone or vibe, because he approached me in the manner of a concerned family member, but even though he seemed to be at ease around me, I had no clue why it felt that way. There has always been a strange feel to that memory in my mind, as if other things were said that did not stick in my memory due me being startled and the fact that my meeting this fellow only took maybe 15-20 seconds at the most.
reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 05:05 PM by sigil23
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I have sent a few messages back to this person, but since the message was sent on the "book of faces", so to speak, I am not sure whether this person has read them or not. They have not replied to me either.
Oddly enough, this individual seemed put off by my suggestion to meet in person. They may just be keeping their distance for some reason. They may not know if I would agree with what they feel is the "ultimate truth", for example.
I have sent a few messages back to this person, but since the message was sent on the "book of faces", so to speak, I am not sure whether this person has read them or not. They have not replied to me either.
Oddly enough, this individual seemed put off by my suggestion to meet in person. They may just be keeping their distance for some reason. They may not know if I would agree with what they feel is the "ultimate truth", for example.
reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 05:11 PM by chr0naut
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Some time ago now (years), I posted at another site, an article proposing that nuclear weapons are now "old tech" and newer weapons have likely been developed.
I then (from the point of view of a physicist) suggested a few possibilities, including using resonance across the Sun to produce a radiant weapon that would allow us to strike against nearby targets, both terrestrial and extraterrestrial.
About a week later I got an e-mail from someone purporting to be from "SOL Militia" which I initially assumed to be the American vigilante group; "Sons Of Liberty".
After thinking about what was in their reply, I came to believe that these are not the "Sons Of Liberty" group at all. I will not reveal what they said but it shook me up a bit.
The other thing was that I did not give out my e-mail address (except when signing up to the site) and so it's a bit of a mystery as to how they found me.
When I tried to look into the e-mail header for the IP of the sender, it just contained a an address in a fairly public range and had no real traceability (it was on a Yahoo! server). Attempts to reply to the sender came back with SMTP 550 error "Mailbox not found".
SO it remains a mystery. Has anyone else been contacted by SOL Militia?
Some time ago now (years), I posted at another site, an article proposing that nuclear weapons are now "old tech" and newer weapons have likely been developed.
I then (from the point of view of a physicist) suggested a few possibilities, including using resonance across the Sun to produce a radiant weapon that would allow us to strike against nearby targets, both terrestrial and extraterrestrial.
About a week later I got an e-mail from someone purporting to be from "SOL Militia" which I initially assumed to be the American vigilante group; "Sons Of Liberty".
After thinking about what was in their reply, I came to believe that these are not the "Sons Of Liberty" group at all. I will not reveal what they said but it shook me up a bit.
The other thing was that I did not give out my e-mail address (except when signing up to the site) and so it's a bit of a mystery as to how they found me.
When I tried to look into the e-mail header for the IP of the sender, it just contained a an address in a fairly public range and had no real traceability (it was on a Yahoo! server). Attempts to reply to the sender came back with SMTP 550 error "Mailbox not found".
SO it remains a mystery. Has anyone else been contacted by SOL Militia?
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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 05:47 PM by sigil23
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I have wondered about that possibility myself. I have come to the conclusion that a basement troll would have been excited that I replied at all and would not have suddenly stopped "playing".
His last message was "Cautious shall be the babbler if he so wishes to turn darkness to light." That seems to point toward this person telling me to exercise caution because I have annoyed them or that they felt that I was being dross or impolite.
I did imply that he was not being gentlemanly by sending me such a message; by responding to to his first message with "We should meet at the southern cross on bone island later this week ... We should shake hands and meet on neutral ground like gentlemen..." Frankly his message frustrated me.
Another possibility is that he had expected more humility from me because of the "gravity" of his first message.
I was not trying to be impetuous toward him, I was merely caught off guard. One does not expect to receive such messages.
I have wondered about that possibility myself. I have come to the conclusion that a basement troll would have been excited that I replied at all and would not have suddenly stopped "playing".
His last message was "Cautious shall be the babbler if he so wishes to turn darkness to light." That seems to point toward this person telling me to exercise caution because I have annoyed them or that they felt that I was being dross or impolite.
I did imply that he was not being gentlemanly by sending me such a message; by responding to to his first message with "We should meet at the southern cross on bone island later this week ... We should shake hands and meet on neutral ground like gentlemen..." Frankly his message frustrated me.
Another possibility is that he had expected more humility from me because of the "gravity" of his first message.
I was not trying to be impetuous toward him, I was merely caught off guard. One does not expect to receive such messages.
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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 05:54 PM by network dude
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I was about to suggest that one of your friends was playing with you and trying to get you to join freemasonry, based on some of the terms used, but after your second posting, I think if may be quite different. Let us know if you find answers.
I was about to suggest that one of your friends was playing with you and trying to get you to join freemasonry, based on some of the terms used, but after your second posting, I think if may be quite different. Let us know if you find answers.
reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 06:27 PM by sigil23
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I thought at first that it might have been a Mason friend of mine, as well. But he never said anything else. I know that there are a few groups with common roots with Freemasonry, so to speak, so I do wonder if it may be someone from one of those groups or even a clandestine lodge. I found the mention of the "token" to be interesting, because you do not hear it very often in that context. There is a "travelling penny" mentioned in the Chymical Wedding; and I often wonder if he was alluding to rosicrucian mysteries. I guess only time will tell. One day I shall knock on someones door, may it be the Masons, Rosy-Cross, or ....
I am curious as to what your gut feelings are about the tone of the second message which said "Cautious shall be the babbler if he so wishes to turn darkness to light."
It seems he may have been expecting a question, as opposed to me suggesting that we meet on neutral ground and shake hands like gentlemen.
I thought at first that it might have been a Mason friend of mine, as well. But he never said anything else. I know that there are a few groups with common roots with Freemasonry, so to speak, so I do wonder if it may be someone from one of those groups or even a clandestine lodge. I found the mention of the "token" to be interesting, because you do not hear it very often in that context. There is a "travelling penny" mentioned in the Chymical Wedding; and I often wonder if he was alluding to rosicrucian mysteries. I guess only time will tell. One day I shall knock on someones door, may it be the Masons, Rosy-Cross, or ....
I am curious as to what your gut feelings are about the tone of the second message which said "Cautious shall be the babbler if he so wishes to turn darkness to light."
It seems he may have been expecting a question, as opposed to me suggesting that we meet on neutral ground and shake hands like gentlemen.
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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 06:43 PM by sigil23
I really like the poem in this thread:www.abovetopsecret.com...
It is titled I See You've Traveled Some.
Seeing this poem is the first time I have seen these words on in print, other than in the message in the OP.
I may well have been contacted by a Mason on "the book of faces" and misinterpreted him a little bit. I have had some very pleasant conversations with Masons over the years, to be honest.
It is titled I See You've Traveled Some.
Seeing this poem is the first time I have seen these words on in print, other than in the message in the OP.
I may well have been contacted by a Mason on "the book of faces" and misinterpreted him a little bit. I have had some very pleasant conversations with Masons over the years, to be honest.
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reply posted on 5-6-2011 @ 06:52 PM by Invariance
Just curious, have you been doing any research into spirituality? The quote "turn darkness to light" and other overtones in your OP remind me of
the Emerald Tablets of Thoth
I certainly hope you'll keep us posted if anything further develops.
I certainly hope you'll keep us posted if anything further develops.
reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 05:49 AM by network dude
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the second post mentioned that someone was physically looking out for you, that isn't the way masonry works. All are equal and on the level. So there would be nobody deemed special enough to warrant having someone follow them around. It's just not what we do. It made me think of a government agency type thing. I cannot speak for the RC's though.
the second post mentioned that someone was physically looking out for you, that isn't the way masonry works. All are equal and on the level. So there would be nobody deemed special enough to warrant having someone follow them around. It's just not what we do. It made me think of a government agency type thing. I cannot speak for the RC's though.
reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 06:48 AM by Homedawg
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Masons dont approach first...you have to go to them...its a basic tenet...the likelyhood that some secret society would approch you in such a fashion,the halt contact after the first speaking isnt very likely...they would have had a reason to reach out and wouldnt take your first response as a signal to sever contact....I may be incorrect but Im still leaning towards a prank...JMO
Masons dont approach first...you have to go to them...its a basic tenet...the likelyhood that some secret society would approch you in such a fashion,the halt contact after the first speaking isnt very likely...they would have had a reason to reach out and wouldnt take your first response as a signal to sever contact....I may be incorrect but Im still leaning towards a prank...JMO
reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 09:04 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Homedawg
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Masons dont approach first...you have to go to them...its a basic tenet...
Um, no...On three occasions, I've been approached by Mason acquaintances (from different lodges) who told me that if I was interested in joining, I could speak to them. Times are tough all over.
Secondly, as to the OP, I note that, according to his signature line, he already has an interest in the occult. How does this factor into the discussion?
reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 09:56 AM by whenandwhere
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by Homedawg
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Masons dont approach first...you have to go to them...its a basic tenet...
Um, no...On three occasions, I've been approached by Mason acquaintances (from different lodges) who told me that if I was interested in joining, I could speak to them. Times are tough all over.
This MAY have happened with you , but this would be an anomaly as it is a direct violation to seek members out . Because you MAY have been asked does not make it so for the Fraternity as a whole . So the above posters statement is correct , we as a whole do not seek out members . Three Masons asking you to join does not make the statement any less true , it simply shows that there are three Masons who do not abide by the rules of Freemasonry .
reply posted on 6-6-2011 @ 10:07 AM by network dude
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
what is supposed to happen and what actually happens are two different things in some cases. While men are supposed to come to masonry on their own free will and accord, sometimes a friend can slip on how he mentions it and appear to be inviting you. It's not supposed to happen for reasons that you would only understand by becoming one, but it does. I personally think it's a testament to a persons character to be recommended to our fraternity. You must be a good person.
what is supposed to happen and what actually happens are two different things in some cases. While men are supposed to come to masonry on their own free will and accord, sometimes a friend can slip on how he mentions it and appear to be inviting you. It's not supposed to happen for reasons that you would only understand by becoming one, but it does. I personally think it's a testament to a persons character to be recommended to our fraternity. You must be a good person.
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