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Originally posted by Maymunah
reply to post by randyvs
Oh wow, really great topic.
To me this is where I see Science not only separate itself from God but ultimately oppose God. I know many many people have trouble swallowing this and will debate and argue and end up defending science with every breath of knowledge they have in them (as I've witnessed this on numerous and countless occasions pertaining to this very topic) but in the end...we are all left with a choice, either the beliefs and theories science has given, or the belief and "theory" God has given. There is no way in the world a God fearing person can accept science without ultimately disproving God. Our knowledge of God strictly comes from the Bible and Quran (depending on said persons religion)
Really Science is a religion of it's own, people claim it's based on facts, but where are these facts coming from? Men. Yet they will claim the Bible is based on men so it can't be held as a fact...this is always struck me as odd.
Science and religion are equally guilty of being stubborn and narcissistic.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by bogomil
But I WOULD like to see something apart from christian propaganda.
I'm a Christian, with a Christian worldview.
Christ is center in my life, and always will be.
Why do I need to prepare my opinions and thoughts so they please YOU?
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by The GUT
["That's right. But most of 'em only made it to the first cut as far as likely candidates are concerned."]
That's politics for you. It's not always the best man winning, it's the most ruthless.
Quote: ["So glad to see you contemplating God, though, bogomil."]
What a jolly euphemism. What I actually am doing is to examine the 'god' concept. When I contemplate, it's in one of the heathen and undoubtly sinful ways from the east.
You mean, YOU have one confused book, proclaiming itself true (and with that wonderful logic christians have....that ofcourse MAKES it true), in contrast to all the real knowledge in the world and that would give a 50/50 chance of who is 'right'
There are all sorts of 'things' to be experienced in this 'world'. Science is a 'thing' the same as any 'other' thing.
Science also fails to exclude elves, unicorns, the flying spaghetti monster, and that god with the elephant head.
Is it so hard to imagine, a relationship with the creator of the universe, being the very thing we are missing in this existence ? Think of how far mankind would be towards filling the emptiness of the cosmos (which I believe we're made for us to adventure in) if we had not lost a relationship with the source of all knowledge?
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by randyvs
Yet what is subjective to you can be objective to me.
No it can't...just like a dead corpse can't be alive, or you hungry at the same time as full.
One of the first rules of science is an open mind.