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Julii Obsequentis Libellus Prodigiorum and Carmina Saliaria- UFOs in the Roman Empire.

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posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:28 AM
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Taking in consideration these chronicles mix both topics, I decided to start this thread here instead the UFO/Alien topic. These are historical events or myths (you decide), about what happended during the Roman Empire and Romulus, founder of Rome (together with his brother Romus). The original version is in latin, I used google translator so I apologize for any mistake.

First, the original in latin :


Parens conditorque Urbis Romulus, quum jam Fidenas oppidum cepisset, coloniamque Romanorum fecisset, guttae sanguinis e coelo magna omnium admiratione ceciderunt. Statim pestis Urbem invasit, quae hominibus absque ulla aegrotatione mortem inferret subitam; sterilitas quoque agrorum et frumentorum omnium, praecipue tamen annonae summa inopia sequuta est. In quae mala posteaquam Laurentes incidissent, omnino visum est, Tatii et legatorum caede violato jure gentium, utrique civitati iram numinis expiandam esse. Quare, deditis caedis auctoribus et ab utrisque supplicio affectis, ab iis malis manifeste se receperunt. Romulus expiationibus civitates expurgavit, quas longo deinceps tempore ad portam Ferentinam observatas, memoriae traditum est. Verum editis jam immortalibus operibus, quum ad Capream paludem p8concionem ad milites haberet, subita coorta tempestas cum magno fragore, tonitribusque, tam denso regem operuit nimbo, ut conspectum ejus concioni abstulerit, nec deinceps unquam in terris apparuerit. Romani autem milites a Julio Proculo edocti, ad deos regem raptum esse, divinos statim illi honores exhibuerunt.

Annum jam octavum regnante Numa, morbus pestifer Italiam occupans, Romam quoque invasit; moerentibus vero cunctis, peltam aeneam e coelo in Numae manus decidisse, memoriae proditum est; quae in Urbis salutem a superis missa credebatur. Ad cujus figuram quum Numae instinctu undecim a Veturio Mamurio insigni artifice fabricatae essent, Salii Martis sacerdotes ad earum custodiam a rege instituti sunt.

In monte Albano lapidibus pluit, quod quum credi vix posset, missis ad id visendum prodigium, in conspectu haud aliter, quam quum grandinem venti glomeratam in terras agunt, crebri cecidere de coelo lapides. Vox ex summi cacuminis luco audita est, quae monebat, ut patrio ritu sacra Albani facerent. Novemdiale igitur sacrum publice susceptum est, et solemne mansit, ut quandocunque idem prodigium nuntiaretur, feriae per novem dies agerentur. Haud ita multo post gravi pestilentia laboratum est. Hostilius dum Numam sacrificiis imitatur, Jovi litare non potuit, sed fulmine ictus, cum regia conflagravit.


Source : penelope.uchicago.edu...*.html

English translation :


Founder of the Parent of the city, Romulus, a town of, since now there Fidenae who had captured the colony of the Romans had done so, from the sky drops of blood, a great wonder of them all down with you. As soon plague assailed the city, that be of men without any sickness should bring in a sudden death; also barrenness of fields and grain of all, especially such as the corn supply was followed by a great scarcity of. In the Laurentian what is evil, after he had caught it, shall be entirely has been seen, and the legates Tatius maltreated the slaughter of their violation of the law of nations, both of the city make atonement to be the wrath of the deity. Therefore, the authors of the murder to surrender, and inflicted punishment upon by both sides the, from those maladies of the manifestly was readily adopted by. Expiations the cities of Romulus, purged, which for a long time after, to the gate of Ferentina observed, is recorded. But now published the works of the immortal, the roe, when he has p8concionem the marsh to the soldiers who would have, by a sudden storm, having arisen, with great noise, thunderstorm, the king of so dense a covered with a cloud, the view of his steals away his sermon, And from this at any time on earth did appear. Romans, however, the soldiers have been taught by Julius Proculus, to the gods to be king snatched from 'divine' exhibited the forthwith deny him the honors.

Year of now the eighth person, Numa 's reign, the disease is noxious to possession of Italy, led to Rome seized the lamented for all but, her shield of brass, from the sky had fallen off, in the hands of Numa, the tradition is, but which she was the salvation of the city by the upper and sent to them from it. At whose Numa 's when the figure by the inspiration of the eleven from the Mamurio Veturius were a striking craftsman employed in the construction of salt and the priests of Mars, to the custody of them by the king of the institute are.

In the shower of stones on the Alban Mount, that when he could scarce be credited, envoys were dispatched to examine the prodigy, in the sight of in no other way, than when he hail the wind piles into the world they act, have fallen from heaven to incessant and stones. The voice of the grove on the summit, from the was heard, "which warned, and of their fathers commanded the Albans to a sacred rite. Therefore, that sacred taking place on the ninth day up a public and solemn he remained, so that whenever the same prodigy was reported, a nine days' holidays to their mission. Not long afterwards, during a severe plague was observed. Hostilius, while he imitates the sacrifices of the reign of Numa, he could not get favorable omens to Jupiter, but was struck by lightning, when the royal were consumed.


In other words, seems like when Romulus was with his troops around the swamp Caprea, they were surprised by a loud storm, he was surrounded by a thick cloud that made him disappear in front of the troops that were present. No one saw him on the ground anymore. Then, Romulus was promoted to the rank of the gods.



Nor need we wonder at this uncertainty, since although Scipio Africanus died at home after dinner, there is no convincing proof of the manner of his end, but some say that he passed away naturally, being of a sickly habit, some that he died of poison administered by his own hand, and some that his enemies broke into his house at night and smothered him. 5 And yet Scipio's dead body lay exposed for all to see, and all who beheld it formed therefrom some suspicion and conjecture of what had happened to it; whereas. Romulus disappeared suddenly, and no portion of his body or fragment of his clothing remained to be seen. But some conjectured that the senators, convened in the temple of Vulcan, fell upon him and slew him, then cut his body in pieces, put each a portion into the folds of his robe, and so carried him away. 6 Others think that it was neither in the temple of Vulcan nor when the senators alone were present that he disappeared, but that he was holding an assembly of the people p177outside the city near the so‑called Goat's Marsh,58 when suddenly strange and unaccountable disorders with incredible changes filled the air; the light of the sun failed, and night came down upon them, not with peace and quiet, but with awful peals of thunder and furious blasts driving rain from every quarter, 7 during which the multitude dispersed and fled, but the nobles gathered closely together; and when the storm had ceased, and the sun shone out, and the multitude, now gathered together again in the same place as before, anxiously sought for their king, the nobles would not suffer them to inquire into his disappearance nor busy themselves about it, but exhorted them all to honour and revere Romulus, since he had been caught up into heaven, and was to be a benevolent god for them instead of a good king. 8 The multitude, accordingly, believing this and rejoicing in it, went away to worship him with good hopes of his favour; but there were some, it is said, who tested the matter in a bitter and hostile spirit, and confounded the patricians with the accusation of imposing a silly tale upon the people, and of being themselves the murderers of the king.


Source : penelope.uchicago.edu...*.html
About Plutarch : www.webexhibits.org...

The story or myth tells that during the reign of Numa Pompilius, second emperor of Rome who ruled between 715 and 671 a. C.. fell from the sky a strange bronze shield, the romans thought it was a gift from the gods. Numa Pompilius ordered eleven copies of the shield shape, and instituted a College 12 priests to guard them. He also declared sacred place where the object had fallen, and to commemorate the date, every year was a procession by the streets of Rome, carrying the sacred shields and singing hymns and dancing, that was the " Carrnina Saliaria".

Here is another source regarding the "Carmina Saliaria", it also mention that event. The original is in italian, I translated using same method.


Early forms of literary expression

The rise of Latin literature and the first forms of literary expression Latin literature: one can identify in 240 BC, when Livius Andronicus staged the His first play, his birth. The date so late is probably caused by the role that the Roman aristocracy place, preventing the flourishing of a literary culture. Latin literature was developed, in fact, after the Greek. Clearly derived from the Greek alphabet spread to Rome until about the seventh century and is attested by some very important evidence, the most important of which is the lapis niger: black is an area of ​​pavement located in the Roman Forum. It seems to contain provisions prohibiting the road and, referring to a rex, suggests that its origin belongs to the age direction. It also seems, as evidenced by a legend that this registration was placed on the tomb of Romulus. The vessel Duenos hand, is a jar of clay on which is engraved inscription of a private nature, while the books are a collection of Sibylline oracles attributed to the legend of the Sibyl of Cumae. Carmina: the term related to the verb cano, carmen (= sing)-C ontents is not so much the poetry versified, as a prose rhythm, rhymes and cadences of rich details that facilitated the memorization of formulas that needed to be repeated with absolute accuracy . Take the definition of carmina texts of different nature: prayers, nursery rhymes, oaths, incantations. In ancient Rome did not have to be very clear the distinction between poetry and prose, though already at that time amounted to the use of the Saturn is neither quantitative nor accentual one hand, but is based on the division into smaller engraved of the verse. Carmina saliaria: was recited twice a year, during the opening and closing ceremonies of the military operations. The ritual was recited by the twelve priests of Mars, the Salian, who were participating in a warrior dance. The origin of the rite was traced to a legend that the god Mars had dropped from the sky in a gesture of protection shield. But lest anyone if they picked up, eleven other shields were made identical build and then I got assigned to it, which used them during the dance. The Carmen Arvale: it was sung by the Brothers Arval (from beacon: fields) during a rite of purification campaign in early May. Carmina Popularia: they were a series of nursery rhymes, prayers, lullabies of popular origin which would accompany the work of the peasants in the fields. Carmina convivial: it was produced by the aristocratic class and exhibited by children in the banquets of origin, of course, noble. The carmen carmen Priami and Nele, the first narrated the fall of Troy, the second almost certainly had some connection with the legend of Romulus and Remus.


Source : doc.studenti.it...
Aditional source (spanish) : www.temakel.com...

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