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In Alabama, a Harsh Bill for Residents Here Illegally

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posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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reply to post by CobraCommander
 


"You" invaded Mexican lives with drugs and guns, drugs transported from the more southern regions and American military guns to protect the drugs.

"You" invaded Mexican politics and policy making by strong-arming them in talks. "Do this, do that" "If you don't do X, you will suffer Y" etc. etc.

Let me ask you this; ever wonder that when last year, the Mexican flu scare got out, it just so happened to be less than a week AFTER news was released of American guns finding their ways to Mexico in great numbers?

The US is destabilizing Mexico in order to sweep in and annex the place, but only dressed up. This little scheme is part of the root of your problems.

What if (when actually) the NAU becomes a reality, and all those illegal immigrants are made legal. By how much do you think average wages would drop, officially speaking?




posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


"You" invaded Mexican lives with drugs and guns, drugs transported from the more southern regions and American military guns to protect the drugs.


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you have any evidence of this
There is more evidence that your own government used the guns we gave them then sold them to make more money and they got into the hands of drug lords
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You" invaded Mexican politics and policy making by strong-arming them in talks. "Do this, do that" "If you don't do X, you will suffer Y" etc. etc.

When and wheres your evidence? Because all i see are accusations
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Let me ask you this; ever wonder that when last year, the Mexican flu scare got out, it just so happened to be less than a week AFTER news was released of American guns finding their ways to Mexico in great numbers?

Maybe because Mexico is a 3rd world country and doesn't have good health standards why would they do it a week after? Your point makes no sense it doesn't coverup anything the story has been reported
also dont you mean swine flu ahahah not Mexican flu interesting you even take credit for the name when clearly its not yours
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posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 06:59 PM
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What is the point of demanding changes for illegal workers?


I don't know. Shock me. Get your revolutionary and innovative thinkers off their asses. Not your revolutionary nut job right wing christian zionists please.


They don't pay taxes?


Of course they pay some form of tax.


La Raza and groups like them post a divide saying the white race is dead and this is our land, these are the people who are backing a divide plus they are making it a race issue no one else is.


And these groups' leaders happen to be out-of-the-ordinary wealthy? FYI, I agree they are making it a race issue if what you present to me is factual, but they're not the only ones.


So i think you should look for racism not from us but from the people like la raza and mechca they tend to think that because they are like 1/100th of a fraction aztec that it entitles them American Indian land which isn't true plus most have Spanish blood which if i'm not mistaken is European is it not? Spain is in Europe is it not?


How about I look for it within both your groups as I'm sure it will be prevalent. You see, racism is a great tool that is used by people out of the picture in order to steer things. When I say, band together with the illegals and make demands, it is because this is the ONE thing these bastards at the top of social pyramids fear. You do it, and of all places, in America and it will set an example across the globe. It'll also help clear out some grave misconceptions that one group holds over the other, the question becomes; can you put aside your differences and realize you're in the same pool of manure?



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd
Come on now, they may not read many books or electronic media, but word of mouth is also a pretty effective communication tool. They know full well they're breaking the law, I'm sure they're not too stupid to realize that hightailing it over or under fences and through the desert laying low isn't the customary way to enter this country. To suggest that kinda implies they're not human, and dumb as cattle which isn't true.


Word of mouth is an effective communication tool? Did you ever play "telephone" before? Truth can be distorted. Word of mouth does not mean they know the actual law.

I am not saying that they don't know they are breaking a law. I am just saying don't assume it for all cases.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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If all you see is accusations then how reliable will you find the "proof" or "evidence"? Grow up and go read a thing or two about the ACTUAL problems that America faces instead of being led by effing religious clowns. That is, if you are ready to stand on your own and have people ridicule/ignore you because what you say doesn't fit with either parties' views.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Maybe because Mexico is a 3rd world country and doesn't have good health standards why would they do it a week after? Your point makes no sense it doesn't coverup anything the story has been reported also dont you mean swine flu ahahah not Mexican flu interesting you even take credit for the name when clearly its not yours


I'm a human first Kurd second Iranian third
, not Mexican.

And, while you are smug in your comment you also put yourself forward as a xenophobe. And it was the "Mexican" swine flu, to further rain down on your parade.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by pcrobotwolf
 


If all you see is accusations then how reliable will you find the "proof" or "evidence"? Grow up and go read a thing or two about the ACTUAL problems that America faces instead of being led by effing religious clowns. That is, if you are ready to stand on your own and have people ridicule/ignore you because what you say doesn't fit with either parties' views.

LOL wow now you are attacking religion
What does religion have to do with anything in this subject? telling me to grow up is a joke right? Nothing you have posted is evidence by all means post a link to support your understanding of the evidence please try and make it as factual as possible. You dont fit in to both parties BS pure BS you support illegal immigration. You spend your time on here trying to root out racist then hide when the spotlight is shown on you claiming that people are ridiculing you for your beliefs maybe just maybe your wrong and instead of taking this as a personal stance against brown people you should take it as a immigration issue.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by pcrobotwolf
 




Maybe because Mexico is a 3rd world country and doesn't have good health standards why would they do it a week after? Your point makes no sense it doesn't coverup anything the story has been reported also dont you mean swine flu ahahah not Mexican flu interesting you even take credit for the name when clearly its not yours


I'm a human first Kurd second Iranian third
, not Mexican.

And, while you are smug in your comment you also put yourself forward as a xenophobe. And it was the "Mexican" swine flu, to further rain down on your parade.


Nice so from your post your a Muslim who hates Christians how that working out for you?



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


See, what you call "excuses" are factors to the causes. In order to deal with a problem we first try to understand the problem. People tend to skip this stage usually and in doing so they muddy the water they're trying to get to the bottom of.

There's a difference in between understanding a behavior and excusing it.

To the Ostrich thinking he's making a point by thinking I'm not thinking my point through; nice try.


Look, I have already said that I agree with MUCH stricter penalties for and controls on employers, and in fact that is one of the tenets of this bill!



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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heres your link about the flu www.bing.com... lu+and+swine+flu+same+thing?&FORM=VIRE3
must be hard being wrong about everything



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by CobraCommander
 


"You" invaded Mexican lives with drugs and guns, drugs transported from the more southern regions and American military guns to protect the drugs.

"You" invaded Mexican politics and policy making by strong-arming them in talks. "Do this, do that" "If you don't do X, you will suffer Y" etc. etc.

Let me ask you this; ever wonder that when last year, the Mexican flu scare got out, it just so happened to be less than a week AFTER news was released of American guns finding their ways to Mexico in great numbers?

The US is destabilizing Mexico in order to sweep in and annex the place, but only dressed up. This little scheme is part of the root of your problems.

What if (when actually) the NAU becomes a reality, and all those illegal immigrants are made legal. By how much do you think average wages would drop, officially speaking?


Number one, "I" have done no such thing. But THEY, literally the individuals have PERSONALLY taken jobs from me, violently attacked me, and even murdered a woman I knew. So there is nothing figurative about that.

Second of all, even figuratively you fail "We" as a nation have not done any of these things to Mexico or other nations. You are confusing global elites and their agenda with the will of the American people who are just as sick of it as anyone else by and large.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by DavinciThales

Originally posted by 27jd
Come on now, they may not read many books or electronic media, but word of mouth is also a pretty effective communication tool. They know full well they're breaking the law, I'm sure they're not too stupid to realize that hightailing it over or under fences and through the desert laying low isn't the customary way to enter this country. To suggest that kinda implies they're not human, and dumb as cattle which isn't true.


Word of mouth is an effective communication tool? Did you ever play "telephone" before? Truth can be distorted. Word of mouth does not mean they know the actual law.

I am not saying that they don't know they are breaking a law. I am just saying don't assume it for all cases.



Ignorance of the law is no excuse. In some parts of the country a man can shoot you dead for trespassing even if you couldn't read the sign.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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LOL wow now you are attacking religion


I always am and so should you, and I bet you would too if you'd read history once in a while. But then again, can't attack your own religion if you're religious huh.


What does religion have to do with anything in this subject?


You would be surprised.


telling me to grow up is a joke right? Nothing you have posted is evidence by all means post a link to support your understanding of the evidence please try and make it as factual as possible.


Not a joke at all, and for your information, I posted in a thread yesterday that narrowed in on this exact issue. Surprisingly I was, along with the topic starter, the only person to comment in the thread!

What you fail to realize is that it is not my understanding of the evidence. And, for the record, it is not my job to post evidence, it is already out there. Now, are you secretly admitting to being a loudmouth lazy know-it-all? Because honestly, there are sources for most of the things I utter, you just have to be smart enough to realize that.



You dont fit in to both parties BS pure BS you support illegal immigration.


RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE, THEY TUK UR JUUBS.

See, if you don't want to have an intelligent discussion and just jump to conclusions don't bother replying?


You spend your time on here trying to root out racist then hide when the spotlight is shown on you


Really? Hide? I know of no such thing...


claiming that people are ridiculing you for your beliefs maybe just maybe your wrong


I spent years walking around with so many thoughts in my head. Never uttered them as I believed I could be wrong. But I got tired of that so now you'll just have to put up with an opinion that will piss you and your enemies off because it unveils you and your enemies for who you really are.


and instead of taking this as a personal stance against brown people you should take it as a immigration issue.


Oh, am I making you nervous dude? I bet I am. That's why you didn't reply to a single point I made with something substantial other than "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE". And then you have the audacity to believe you can tackle something like immigration issues by "kicking them out"
you're so sad it's stupid.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by pcrobotwolf
 




Maybe because Mexico is a 3rd world country and doesn't have good health standards why would they do it a week after? Your point makes no sense it doesn't coverup anything the story has been reported also dont you mean swine flu ahahah not Mexican flu interesting you even take credit for the name when clearly its not yours


I'm a human first Kurd second Iranian third
, not Mexican.

And, while you are smug in your comment you also put yourself forward as a xenophobe. And it was the "Mexican" swine flu, to further rain down on your parade.


A Kurd huh? Parasites on 3 countries, not just one. Let me ask you this. If the Kurds were to be granted an autonomous homeland, would they be doing their best to make a glorious nation for themselves. Or would they be fleeing their homeland in droves to be parasites in lands where they were not wanted?



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Since you like cartoons to get your point across look at this funny song and it will tell you what other countrys do to illegal immigrants.. Breaking the law in some country's is frowned upon.

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Nice so from your post your a Muslim who hates Christians how that working out for you?


Actually, I'm not a Muslim but then again, racists/bigots like yourself see "Kurd" or "Iranian" and go: TERRORISTTT MUZZIEEE. It's come to the point that I'm sat here, wondering if there are actually people as stupid as you out there.

I thank you for showing your true colors. Although I hoped it wouldn't need to be off-topic.

Oh and here are the links, all threads on ATS which you could have read to inform yourself.

link #1
Link #2
Link #3
Link #4
Link #5

Pfff, what do I know, I only post my uninformed opinion.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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A Kurd huh? Parasites on 3 countries, not just one. Let me ask you this. If the Kurds were to be granted an autonomous homeland, would they be doing their best to make a glorious nation for themselves. Or would they be fleeing their homeland in droves to be parasites in lands where they were not wanted?


I hardly believe you have any idea what you are talking about when you talk about the Kurds. Aside from the fact that you are trying to piss me off(which by the way - does not work), being off-topic, I find it funny you make all sorts of dumbass analogies that show your lack of comprehension when it comes to these issues. Of course, the Kurds have their drug dealing mules sponsored by US, armed by Israel, but what could you possibly know about that when you are oblivious to the happenings on your own border?



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by CobraCommander
Second of all, even figuratively you fail "We" as a nation have not done any of these things to Mexico or other nations. You are confusing global elites and their agenda with the will of the American people who are just as sick of it as anyone else by and large.


So when it's the US sticking their thumbs into other peoples pies then it's really the globalist elite but when it's illegals border hopping it isn't the globlist elite who have pushed into the mexican market driving farmers and small businesses out and making them try their luck up north. It's because these border hoppers are parasites.

So if you are so sick of these globl elites, which is whom I have been saying are to blame all along, what are you going to do about it? I know pass a law that will do nothing and complain about illegals. Yeah, that'll show those damned globalists.



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posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Zamini
reply to post by pcrobotwolf
 



LOL wow now you are attacking religion


I always am and so should you, and I bet you would too if you'd read history once in a while. But then again, can't attack your own religion if you're religious huh.


What does religion have to do with anything in this subject?


You would be surprised.


telling me to grow up is a joke right? Nothing you have posted is evidence by all means post a link to support your understanding of the evidence please try and make it as factual as possible.


Not a joke at all, and for your information, I posted in a thread yesterday that narrowed in on this exact issue. Surprisingly I was, along with the topic starter, the only person to comment in the thread!

What you fail to realize is that it is not my understanding of the evidence. And, for the record, it is not my job to post evidence, it is already out there. Now, are you secretly admitting to being a loudmouth lazy know-it-all? Because honestly, there are sources for most of the things I utter, you just have to be smart enough to realize that.



You dont fit in to both parties BS pure BS you support illegal immigration.


RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE, THEY TUK UR JUUBS.

See, if you don't want to have an intelligent discussion and just jump to conclusions don't bother replying?


You spend your time on here trying to root out racist then hide when the spotlight is shown on you


Really? Hide? I know of no such thing...


claiming that people are ridiculing you for your beliefs maybe just maybe your wrong


I spent years walking around with so many thoughts in my head. Never uttered them as I believed I could be wrong. But I got tired of that so now you'll just have to put up with an opinion that will piss you and your enemies off because it unveils you and your enemies for who you really are.


and instead of taking this as a personal stance against brown people you should take it as a immigration issue.


Oh, am I making you nervous dude? I bet I am. That's why you didn't reply to a single point I made with something substantial other than "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE". And then you have the audacity to believe you can tackle something like immigration issues by "kicking them out"
you're so sad it's stupid.


Yes not your job to support your argument with factual evidence that makes totally sense:lol it also explains your total lack of understanding. this issue isn't about the holy land as i seem to recall so religion has nothing to do with it.



posted on Jun, 5 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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You seem intelligent, but come across as extremely defensive, and say you don't get 'pissed off' but then react like an irritated child, with your comments.
I wonder what the motivation would be to keep wide open illegal immigration, which is mostly used by Mexicans (because of border proximity), to others in other parts of the world.

One of things that jumps to my mind, is it is a very convenient avenue of entry for muslim extremists..

Is that your true motivation for maintaining easy illegal access to the U.S.A? to keep a wide open entry lane for people we really don't want here?



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