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Ancient Aliens Debunked?

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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth

The Ancients must of saw something. If the Ancients are drawing animals that they see why would they be hallucinating about seeing something like a UFO?


So where are the drawings of the ET spaceships......after all they must have got a pretty close up look at them?




posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ObvTruth

The Ancients must of saw something. If the Ancients are drawing animals that they see why would they be hallucinating about seeing something like a UFO?


So where are the drawings of the ET spaceships......after all they must have got a pretty close up look at them?


Actually im going to give you all the drawings from 29,000 years ago to the last few centuries

www.nephilimskulls.com...



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth

Actually im going to give you all the drawings from 29,000 years ago to the last few centuries

www.nephilimskulls.com...


Still not seeing anything remotely that would look like space craft that is thousands of years ahead of 21st century man in those pictures.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ObvTruth

Actually im going to give you all the drawings from 29,000 years ago to the last few centuries

www.nephilimskulls.com...


Still not seeing anything remotely that would look like space craft that is thousands of years ahead of 21st century man in those pictures.


.......Your just trying to keep your mind closed....Theres nothing i can do if you dont want to see them



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth


.......Your just trying to keep your mind closed....Theres nothing i can do if you dont want to see them


It's not me having a closed mind........It's me not thinking........"wow....those ancient cave drawings are depictions of ET and his space craft!"........... that's all.

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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ObvTruth


.......Your just trying to keep your mind closed....Theres nothing i can do if you dont want to see them


It's not me having a closed mind........It's me not thinking........"wow....those ancient cave drawings are depictions of ET and his space craft!"........... that's all.

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What else could they be?



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ButterCookie

AAT's speculate that the 'moving stars', such as the one when describing the one that the 3 kings followed to witness the birth of Jesus could not theoretically been a 'star'

as stars do not move ( I know they do around the center of the galaxy, but not for us to see the movement)

So to describe a shiny object in the sky that is moving, even going left-to right, and hovers had to be describing a flying metallic vessel.



Hmmm, first off there is no evidence that the 3 kings story or even Jesus is true.

But if for arguments sake it is a true story......there are things in the night sky that move.....they could be meteorites, comets, earthquake lights (Which don't always occur just where there are earth quakes), perhaps they saw a pulsar.

Is a flying metal vessel the only thing it could have been.............errr short answer.....NO!

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No......

The major problem here again is that neither of these would stand over a house. Meteors in particular disappear rapidly, so they wouldn't even be around at the start and finish of the wise men's journey.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ObvTruth

Actually im going to give you all the drawings from 29,000 years ago to the last few centuries

www.nephilimskulls.com...


Still not seeing anything remotely that would look like space craft that is thousands of years ahead of 21st century man in those pictures.


Ancient people, who were just starting to record history through cuneiform, are probably not going to have the capability of any exact model to scale state-of the-art drawing of something that surpasses their wildest dreams.

Think about.....are YOU even able to draw an exact replica of a NASA spaceship today?

I think not

Not being rude, but what I'm saying is that not everyone who decides to or is able to record history is a technical artist.

Now....

these drawings (other than from heiroglyphics) were drawn by Renaissance artist.....not from an eyewitness account but from the biblical text of that time....

Plus

they are having to draw from reading such descriptions as "he left in a pillar of smoke:...."angels flew with wings" and " God looked down on the Earth"

our images stem from the Renaissance artists taking the biblical text literally.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie

No......

The major problem here again is that neither of these would stand over a house. Meteors in particular disappear rapidly, so they wouldn't even be around at the start and finish of the wise men's journey.


If the story of the 3 kings is true......how can you be certain it "hovered" over the house..........anything could appear to hover....depending on distance and angle of view.

The hovering star could be many things........jumping to the conclusion that it MUST only be a metallic flying vessel of some sort is a little silly.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
Not being rude, but what I'm saying is that not everyone who decides to or is able to record history is a technical artist.


Whilst I take that point........I still don't see those drawings ET spaceships.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Let me ask again...What could this be?




You can abviously see its not a bird. Its skinny, and has a dome....What could it be?



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
Let me ask again...What could this be?




You can abviously see its not a bird. Its skinny, and has a dome....What could it be?




Who knows........perhaps they are not flying at all.
If it's an animal it could be a turtle or tortoise.
Certainly doesn't need to be a space ship!
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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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There are something at the bottom of the picture and the UFO's are above them. They are in the sky Obv. If you cant idenify them then technically they are UFO's seeing as how you dont know what they are and seeing as its 29,000 years old there are no secret Government aircraft so it has to be ET.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
There are something at the bottom of the picture and the UFO's are above them. They are in the sky Obv.


Not really, that's your interpretation.......they don't necessarily represent flying objects.

Look at other cave drawings........are the animals flying over each other in the sky?



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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Ok...Look at the two objects..then look at everything below them....It appears that these UFO's are above the things below them looking like they are suspended in air....You cant really debate that.




Look at this picture...Look at the disk looking thing...Tell me that doesnt look like a saucer...



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
from Sitchin's "The 12th Planet"

" The appearance of modern man a mere 700,000 years after Homo Erectus and some 200,00 before Neanderthal Man is absolutely implausible. It is also clear that Homo Sapiens represent such an extreme departure from the slow evolutionary process that many of our features, such as the ability to speak, are totally unrelated to the earlier primates."

You might be interested in this recent item on Neanderthals and modern man from the Max Planck Institute. The Neanderthal Genome project,

www.timesonline.co.uk...

Story updated here,

en.wikipedia.org...

Just shows that science is always in flux, with alternative ideas on things. That I think is where this thread fails, as it does not allow for alternative ideas, and where "Best answer" is liable to become obsolete in the passage of time.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ButterCookie

No......

The major problem here again is that neither of these would stand over a house. Meteors in particular disappear rapidly, so they wouldn't even be around at the start and finish of the wise men's journey.


If the story of the 3 kings is true......how can you be certain it "hovered" over the house..........anything could appear to hover....depending on distance and angle of view.

The hovering star could be many things........jumping to the conclusion that it MUST only be a metallic flying vessel of some sort is a little silly.


Not silly...

First, the star went right, then left, then hovered.

Please list an example of a celestial anomalie that can do this.
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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Logical one

Originally posted by ObvTruth
There are something at the bottom of the picture and the UFO's are above them. They are in the sky Obv.


Not really, that's your interpretation.......they don't necessarily represent flying objects.

Look at other cave drawings........are the animals flying over each other in the sky?


And the reason that it CERTAINLY cannot be alien craft is because mankind ( Earthlings) were the 1st to develop flying craft i(n the 19040's with the Wright Brothers)??

No other civilization would be more advanced than us Special Humans?

In fact, no other civilization of a species exists other than us Special Humans?

Take a look at the universe, not just planet earth, its star and moon.

We certainly are not the most advanced species because we are not even in the most advanced galaxy, live in the most advanced solar system or even on the most advanced planet in the solar system.

The universe is VAST.

Learn your place in it.


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posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie

and countless numbers of parallel 'coincidences'

I

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Looks to me like one culture borrowed and built on prior myths.
I don't think it can be considered "parallel" if there are two thousand years in between.



posted on Jun, 8 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by ObvTruth
Let me ask again...What could this be?




You can abviously see its not a bird. Its skinny, and has a dome....What could it be?



Maybe something like this



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