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Poor...poor...poor...effort at "debunking". It's stylized art. It is not meant to be a life-like model of a plane. It was crafted by people who probably didn't even understand what it was. I also doubt aliens had aerodynamically designed craft, since they are actually traveling through space, and presumably large distances. But to say "we invented planes" is really quite silly, you didn't put much thought into that statement. It's possible they were using aerodynamic craft designed for use in our atmosphere, for transportation/shipping reasons.
This has become an iconic artifact amongst AAH proponents. If this is a plane as they suggest where are the engines? Where's the cockpit? Why are there clearly two EYES? And why exactly does ancient foreknowledge of the plane logically lead one to ALIENS? We humans invented the plane, not aliens, why would we credit them with this artifact? A civilization capable of crossing interstellar space wouldn't likely have need for such things and according to AAH proponents themselves ancient mythical accounts describe flying saucers NOT airplanes.
~ "The Madonna with Saint Giovannino" ~
Upon closer inspection, the man seems to be looking away from the UFO, behind him and over his shoulder.
Or, more likely, the notably out of place object may be imagined floating above the ground between them.
From either perspective, could Mary be seen as blocking the two babies from the flying saucer's view?
Perhaps the dog glimpses the hovering object ~ with it's mouth open, it could even be barking at it.
But what is that dark, sparkling, disassembled figure beside them ~ a dwarf, or an ethereal being?
A body, legs, head, and tail can be made out. Could this represent a type of alien, or demon?
Also, Mary's halo seems a bit shadowy ~ more like a vaporous disc than a ring of light.
Haratonohama, Hitachi, Japan ~ 1803 The book "Ume No Chiri" (Dust of Apricot) tells us that a "foreign ship and crew" was once witnessed at Haratonohama (Haratono Seashore) in Hitachi no Kuni (Ibaragi Prefecture), Japan. The outer shell was made of iron and glass ~ and strange letters were seen inside the ship. Notice also four examples of alien heiroglyphs.
Image from the French book "Le Livre Des Bonnes Moeurs" by Jacques Legrand, 1338 (left). Sphere resembles a Montgolfiere (French for baloon) but there were no balloons 14th centurey France. Notice also: several daylight stars, the monstrous faces in the rocks and the men are offering seeds?
Strange suited figure found in Kiev. It dates to ca. 4,000 BC.
A cave paintings from Tanzania, estimated to be up to 29,000 years old. This depicts several disc shaped objects.
We didn't invent planes out of thin air. We discovered the laws of aerodynamics and how to generate lift effectively. It's a science, and all planes have similar components. The model doesn't actually look all that much like a plane, it has all the common components of a plane. These models have essentially all the critical parts most aerodynamic craft will have. Coincidence? I think not. Even my rational side tells me the person(s) who created these models has witnessed similar craft or had knowledge of aerodynamics.
The point of bringing up that we invented planes is simple, it only looks like a plane coincidentally.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Allred5923
Here we go again.
The dyarite slabs at Puma Punko ? Come on, it is something that carver's and professional stone sharpers say they could not even do with such perfection.
The Mayan, Incas and Aztec have been found in existence all over the Americas of that region, not simply in one place, and the tribes and the people from here to there all have tales of approximately the same stories and experiences during this great migration from the plains
We are not a solstice race from the get go, we had to be taught to understand what all of it meant, unless of course you have the answer for that for the first telescope invented was by the Sumerians? If so , "Prove it."
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Amaterasu
I've lately begun to realise clearly that there are a group of members who push dodgy, dishonest people as messengers of 'truth.' They wriggle out of admitting that their 'truth-seekers' are bogus. They always give out the claim of 'personal knowledge.'
If it's all about 'the message' like you all insist...why not find someone 'with the message' who hasn't discredited themselves by openly lying through their teeth to their loyal audience?
When our politicians lie, we dismiss anything else they say; we no longer trust them. In the case of these people, we suddenly say, 'hmmmm, well, perhaps they are protecting themselves for a reason? Maybe we shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater?' Why the hell not? Throw 'em out and throw 'em far! If they had respect for their audience, they wouldn't be lying to them would they?!
Forgive the tone..I've been on ATS too much this week.
Originally posted by TheArchaeologist
Helicopter? Spaceship? Intriguing either way.
As far as the Pre Incan "flying machine", the odd thing about them is that their wings are in a spot that you cannot find in nature, not even in flying fish. It intrigues me for sure.
Not saying it's alien, but it certainly would change the world as we know it.
Here is the one thing that nobody has mentioned. Why would AAH require a craft with wings to begin with?
Interstellar space travel certainly is void of air, therefore the need for wings is made moot by the very technology that would have brought them here to begin with.
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
All you need to know is the Great Pyramid has 2,000,000+ blocks weighing between 1-30 tons some heavier, and If you we're to place 10 of these stones a day, it would take you 665 years straight with 24/7 work.
You don't do something for 600+ years that has zero payoff at all, the children we're inspired by whatever inspired their fathers for generations.