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California passing lots of anti-second amendment bills!

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posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:15 AM
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Not a surprise from Kommiefornia.

Status Update on Anti-Gun Bills in California

A few bills :

Assembly Bill 144 would change the state’s gun laws and prohibit law-abiding citizens from carrying an unloaded handgun openly. AB 144 passed in the state Assembly by a 45 to 29 vote. This bill is currently scheduled to be heard in the Senate Public Safety Committee on Tuesday, June 7.



Assembly Bill 809 would establish a state registration system, similar to the one currently in place for handguns, for all newly-acquired rifles and shotguns. AB 809 passed in the state Assembly by a 44 to 2 vote with 34 members not voting.



Senate Bill 124 would create a broadly expanded and technically flawed definition of handgun ammunition which would encompass virtually all rifle cartridges. It would also ban the possession of many types of rifle cartridges and make it a felony to possess them. SB 124 doesn’t stop there; it could also ban virtually all non-lead ammunition used in California by reclassifying them as “armor piercing.” SB 124 would also require the registration of ammunition and banning of mail-order ammunition. SB 124 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 16 vote.



Senate Bill 427 would force licensed state ammunition retailers to obtain a special local license to operate in municipalities. These retailers would also be required to notify local law enforcement before conducting business within their jurisdiction. SB 427 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 14 vote.



Senate Bill 798 would treat air and BB guns the same as a toy gun by requiring the entire exterior surface of the device to be white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple as the predominate color. BB guns are not toys and should not be treated as or manufactured like a toy. SB 798 passed in the state Senate by a 21 to 16 vote.

Yeah that is freaking stupid.


Senate Bill 819 would allow Dealer Record of Sales (DROS) funds to go to the Department of Justice to help pay for the enforcement of California firearm possession laws. The DROS fund monies were originally collected from every firearm purchaser to pay for the administrative process for background checks. However, these funds have been raided to help the Department of Justice pay their bills. As a result, the DROS fund will certainly run out of money. When it does, what will be their answer to this problem – another increase in the fees for background checks. SB 819 passed in the state Senate by a 22 to 16 vote.


Freaking California. What about fixing problems that need fixing instead of trashing the constitution.


A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you NOT understand?




posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:23 AM
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As someone who lives on the coast in Northern California, who owns guns, I am appalled every time I hear one more thing about what they've been doing in my State - especially regarding the 2nd amendment.

This country has been infiltrated by people who could give a rats ass for the people who died upholding the Constitution.

And no, this is not about keeping gang violence down. This is about keeping prisons full and civilians unable to protect themselves.
edit on 4-6-2011 by ThinkingCap because: i dun made a typo



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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give them pot

and slowly take their arms

a frog and a pot of boiling water

OVER MY DEAD BODY



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:38 AM
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Well I've been thinking of buying a gun in CA lately. Looks like I better hurry up before they make it harder on me.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:40 AM
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Those who represent us and vote unconstitutionally should be treated as any other traitor, in a time of war.
We are at war you know.
And those who do not vote should recieve the same as they are negligent in their duties.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 04:31 AM
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Well you better round up the illegal immigrants because there is fairly strong evidence that they've represented an important demographic in our elections for many years. (There is evidence they've voted in election-deciding numbers in some localities, although the full impact is difficult to measure since they're undocumented.) They're an easy tool for the left wing to manipulate. If I can find the article I'll start a thread to avoid derailing this one.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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Please forgive my ignorance in this question but how in the heck does any state law supercede the U.S. constitution, especially the 2nd Amendment? Being a Canadian I don't fully understand the system and that's why I ask.

Reading what I read in the OP, those laws if fully passed would be more restrictive than Canadian gun ownership in it's current state. Unreal...



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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State laws CAN'T legally supercede the constitution. If the supreme court finds these laws to be unconstitutional, they will be struck down. However, our supreme court has a particular knack for twisting the constitution to fit political agendas, and similar infringements on the right to bear arms have already been rationalized, so it is highly unlikely these will be struck down.

Also, Kleptofornia doesn't give a crap what the federal government says. Medical Marijuana has already been legalized here, in direct violation of federal law. (Not that I think that is necessarily a bad thing.)



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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Rodney Stich wrote a book about what he saw happening from the inside, as an Agent. You can read it here.

Defrauding The American People



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 06:15 AM
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Not surprised. California has been on the cutting edge of the erosion of personal freedoms and rights for years.

Just another reason(s) to not go anywhere near that place.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 06:41 AM
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See who is pushing these draconian bills and you will uncover and even larger conspiracy.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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California. Well that's all that needs to be said..

Liberals feel comforted knowing the Government is in control.. by attacking law abiding citizens, they can offer the impression that they are safe.. like this would somehow reduce or restrict the amount of weaponry on "the streets"

Then there is also the belief that guns permeate the hand of those holding or around them and alter their state of mind forcing them to do unspeakable crimes. Guns clearly turn even the most pious law abiding citizen into a belligerent mass murderer.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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stupid is as stupid does and california is the epitomy of that statement

ban guns and make your only means of defense a 9-11 call and the people coming to the rescue are the "rodney king beaters"

only in california.

i just thank god i dont live in california.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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It doesn't! But you see, The Constitution for the United states. (the original said "for" not "of") Is the "supreme law of the land." and it sometimes gets in the way of TPTBs agendas. Although writen in very plain english it reqiures college boys and girls, lawyers and socialist polititions to deside what it says. Simple terms like "..shall not....", "....exclusive ledgislation not exceeding ten miles square....." and "..all powers not delegated..", "...other rights not enumerated...." are somehow are arguable to them. I personaly can't wait for the arguement to start. It's beyond voting and other normal measures now.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:44 PM
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Hate to burst your bubble but none of those violate the constitution. The second amendment is open to alot of interpretation as to what types of arms a person may have or how they may carry them. Your only right is to "bear arms" and the founders left the rest up to future congress's to debate.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Just as long as all you californians don't make any more of damn your getaway houses in montana (yes there are actually a decent amount who do
) and try and screw with our guns the way you're doing with your own state I'll be fine and dandy...



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 07:02 PM
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All of us know what the Supreme Court has said. We also know that the "shall not be infringed" part is open to interpretation. I, for one, am not opposed to CERTAIN TYPES of arms control, but frankly we have more than enough "control" in this state already.

Which is hilarious in a way, because the people who commit crimes with guns probably aren't registered owners.

I hate to be partisan (and I'm not a republican), but someone needs to get those democrats out of the assembly. Those people can barely tie their own shoes let alone run a state.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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California has long beem known as the land of Muslix//fruits nuts and flakes..thats why i live n Texas..sadly the other sheeple states seem to follow California



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by kro32
Hate to burst your bubble but none of those violate the constitution. The second amendment is open to alot of interpretation as to what types of arms a person may have or how they may carry them. Your only right is to "bear arms" and the founders left the rest up to future congress's to debate.


BS

My blood is boiling and the bubbles are bursting every passing minute.

The US Constitution doesn't read "bear some arms"
It doesn't read "bear sanctioned or approved arms"
It doesn't read "bear legal arms"
It doesn't read "bear only non-armor piercing arms"
It doesn't read "bear only rainbow colored arms with numbered ammo"
and it certainly doesn't read "bear arms unless you live in California"

IT READS:

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Fricken period.

That includes ANY AND ALL arms.

Fricken period.

If the second amendment wasn't clear enough, there was the ninth:

"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Do you expect a well regulated militia to be armed with rainbow colored bb guns loaded with registered and serial numbered bb's?

Sri Oracle
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posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Do you expect a well regulated militia to be armed with rainbow colored bb guns loaded with registered and serial numbered bb's?
Sri Oracle


No, the Progressives expect us to be unarmed and docile when they take the rest of our paychecks and give them to the underprivileged. Remember, we must all be equal unequally.

/TOA



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