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I got threatened with jail time after applying for financial aid

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posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 09:28 AM
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OP, you didn't get threatened with jail time for applying for financial aid. You were threatened with jail time because you broke the law. Going to jail is a normal consequence for breaking the law.

All males are required to register for selective service. How in the world do you expect the federal government to loan you money when you are breaking a mostly federal law?




posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 09:34 AM
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Unless your 18-27 years old you most likely wouldnt be drafted anyway. The selective service is required when you turn 18, Im pretty sure you have to register in that to even vote? have you not been doing your voting mister....?



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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Technically this Selective Service crap is a fraud.

It's just another proof that everyone bows down and takes it from their master the govt.

Sign this paper now saying you will be my cannon fodder or I will jail you!

What a joke this country has become. They have to threaten jail time to scare their citizens into fighting for their corrupt illegitimate wars.

I'd rather be shot in the face that agree to anymore crap they want to shove down my throat.

I will not be threatened or bullied by this tyranny any longer!



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
I don't know too much about this whole thing but it just kind of trips me out

In early april I applied for Federal Student Aid, which I'm sure plenty of others have done. I'm a married man with 2 kids making a sustainable living, however can't fork out the extra money for school. My wife also filled her application out at the same time. She got her approval a little under a month later, and I was like "hey, what about me???" (we're attending the same college).
About a week later, I recieved a letter that said "we've recieved your application for FSA, and it is being processed, however you are required to register for selective service before approval can be given. Visit www.SSS.gov, or fill out the attached form and mail it back to us in the pre-addressed envelope. If registration is not recieved, your application will not be processed and you will be prosecuted which can result in jail time. We don't want to prosecute you, so please register as soon as possible."

WTF is that?? I'm not a fighter, don't support the wars, but I DO support the troops. However I don't wanna be one, I just support them from afar. lol
It just leaves a bitter taste for them to say "register so we can come get you when we draft, or you'll go to jail".... I definitely would not be a proud soldier after having to choose between jail and combat.


Well your enjoying the freedoms that many thousands of men and women provided to you...everyone is required to enter the selective service...that just means that your able to be drafted...there is no draft ... so don't worry...just man up and do the right thing...even if there was a draft, you should want to do your part...unless your just one of those people that want to sponge off of everyone else...some times thats the best way to mature... to join up...what do i know I went in and stayed....



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:36 AM
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I threw my papers in the garbage when I got them. So apparently in NY, you don't need to be registered to get a driver's license or to vote. Either that or the paper pushers for the government are worthless.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:37 AM
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what do i know I went in and stayed....

I bet you make more money than if you went to college too :X

I actually have quite a bit of family in the military, and they love to brag about how much money they make, all the allowances they get, etc - and apparently even if you join up, going over seas is optional these days

this is all hearsay from me though, I really don't know except what they claim



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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OP, what is happening is this:

PAST / CURRENT

1) Many 'students' are defaulting on their school loans.

2) The US government have declared that loans as part of a crime and school loans are the loans that cannot be dissolved by bankruptcy.

3) Therefore, they check to see if you are registered for the draft before giving you a loan.

FUTURE

Someone bureaucrat will suggest that it is reasonable and patriotic for students that cannot repay their loans to serve in the US military (or private contract military) in lieu of repaying their student loans. Republicans and Democrats alike will rejoice and you'll end up fighting in Syria, Turkey, or Lebanon two weeks later.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:15 AM
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Op--

Look you have nothing to worry about. If you are under the cut-off age just go and register. If you are over the cut-off age it is a little harder but still rather simple. All you have to do is write a bull$#!+ letter to the Selective Service asking for forgiveness.

Personally I just told them I thought I had registered when I registered to vote at 18. I basically said something like the voter registry card had a SS enrollment on it and I thought I had correctly enlisted. In the end they sent me back a letter to take to the school releiving me of my obligation.

After you receive the letter of forgiveness, make a bunch a copy's of both your letter and the SS letter. Then take it to your school with your corrected FAFSA and bam you are in.

Remember though, each year you have to re-apply to FAFSA, so keep copies on hand. You will need both letters every single time you file your FAFSA and apply for student loans at the school of your choice. Your FAFSA will always say you can't get aid, but as long as you have the SS forgiveness letter the school can't block it.

Yes it's another hoop to jump through but if you make copies you will only have to jump once.
edit on 4-6-2011 by OatDelphi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Version100

All males over the age of 18 are required to register.

It's funny, I was already in the military, I think it was in
1981 when they reinstituted registration, and I was told
I still had to go register...

They already know who you are, stop worrying and go fill
out the card, if the draft hits claim conscientious objector.

Filling out that little card is a whole lot simpler than
explaining why you didn't if they come looking for you.

That's weird. I joined the navy at 17. As far as I know, I never did register. I kind of always assumed that my active service took care of that. Strange that it did not for you.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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please stop with this draft nonsense

rangle is the only democrat who has tried time and time and to re institute the draft.

i registered for selective service when i was 18 i wasnt a big deal. never been called up to join or anything.

sorry but i will never ask this government for a damn thing thats the way i was made.

if you want an education do what many people do work 2 jobs and put themselves through school.

and really if you want yout entire education paid for join up.

of course that is a descision that you must make.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
please stop with this draft nonsense

rangle is the only democrat who has tried time and time and to re institute the draft.

i registered for selective service when i was 18 i wasnt a big deal. never been called up to join or anything.

sorry but i will never ask this government for a damn thing thats the way i was made.

if you want an education do what many people do work 2 jobs and put themselves through school.

and really if you want yout entire education paid for join up.

of course that is a descision that you must make.



No, not for this crop.

I want my Govt provided (Add whatever) and if I don't get it the system is unfair/racist/wrong.
And if you add restrictions, I will stomp my feet more and yell louder!!



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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a credo i have long lived by is to give no one power over me.

hence i do not believe in the "goodies" from government

they all have a price to pay and i am not willing to make someone else pay for me.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by cry93
OP, you didn't get threatened with jail time for applying for financial aid. You were threatened with jail time because you broke the law. Going to jail is a normal consequence for breaking the law.

All males are required to register for selective service. How in the world do you expect the federal government to loan you money when you are breaking a mostly federal law?


If you had actually read with the goal of reading and not with the goal of insulting me in mind, you would see that I didn't say it was BECAUSE I applied, it was AFTER I applied. Fail... Tryna be a big shot and all.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by cry93
OP, you didn't get threatened with jail time for applying for financial aid. You were threatened with jail time because you broke the law. Going to jail is a normal consequence for breaking the law.

All males are required to register for selective service. How in the world do you expect the federal government to loan you money when you are breaking a mostly federal law?


If you had actually read with the goal of reading and not with the goal of insulting me in mind, you would see that I didn't say it was BECAUSE I applied, it was AFTER I applied. Fail... Tryna be a big shot and all.
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So were you not aware that you have to sign up for selective service?



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Are you another one with bad comprehension?? The only thing I have a problem with is the jail threat. I'm rational enough to understand that free stuff is never free.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Obviously not..



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
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Obviously not..


Ok, so go sign up. Might have to send in a note.

So what is the big deal?



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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ah **** if you haven't yet noticed that the big deal is getting a letter saying if not I will be prosecuted, and will serve jail time, then there's not much else I can do for you. I really have no problem with registering, it's the threat. Hence the title of my thread!!



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
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ah **** if you haven't yet noticed that the big deal is getting a letter saying if not I will be prosecuted, and will serve jail time, then there's not much else I can do for you. I really have no problem with registering, it's the threat. Hence the title of my thread!!

So the letter states if you don't, you will be prosecuted?
If so, go register.
Case closed.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I don't understand why you're not mentioned with histories other greatest geniuses...



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