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Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by samsamm9
Islam ? "Wise men will appear in the Orient, and their wisdom will cross all seas and frontiers, but people will not trust this wisdom for long time, and this real truth they will proclaim for a lie." What do you all think ?
what is the source that you are referring in Islam ?
you are aiming Iran and I know that ( kingdom of Israel ).
Originally posted by shutdownormeltdown
"Mitar Tarabich, (1829-1899)"
"There will be a few wars around the kingdom of Israel..."
I hate to skeptic up this thread, I really do. But the quote above sounds to me like it was written from the point-of-view of someone who was alive -after- Israel became a nation, in 1948.
That being said, this thread was still an awesome read, and there is real wisdom in what was written, no matter when it was written. S+F
After the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, some communities settled in Palestine. During the 16th century, communities struck roots in the Four Holy Cities—Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron, and Safed—and in 1697, Rabbi Yehuda Hachasid led a group of 1,500 Jews to Jerusalem. In the second half of the 18th century, Eastern European opponents of Hasidism, known as the Perushim, settled in Palestine. Aliyah to Israel and settlement Flag of Israel Pre-Zionist Aliyah The Return to Zion Old Yishuv Before May 14, 1948 First Aliyah · Second Aliyah During World War I Third Aliyah · Fourth Aliyah Fifth Aliyah During and after World War II Bricha After May 14, 1948 Operation Magic Carpet Operation Ezra and Nehemiah Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries 1968 Polish aliyah 1970s Soviet Union aliyah Aliyah from Ethiopia 1990s CIS aliyah 2000s Latin America aliyah Concepts Judaism · Zionism Jewish homeland Jewish messianism Law of Return Galut · Yerida Persons and organizations Theodor Herzl · Knesset El Al · Nefesh B'Nefesh World Zionist Organization Related topics History of Israel History of Zionism Israeli Jews Jewish diaspora Jewish history Jews in the Land of Israel Religious Zionism Revival of the Hebrew language · Yishuv v · d · e A long-bearded man in his early forties leaning over a railing with a bridge in the background. Dressed in a black overcoat, he gazes blankly into the distance with his hands clasped. Theodor Herzl, visionary of the Jewish State, in 1901 The first large wave of "modern" immigration, known as the First Aliyah, began in 1881, as Jews fled pogroms in Eastern Europe. Although the Zionist movement already existed in theory, Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl is credited with founding political Zionism, a movement which sought to establish a Jewish state in the Land of Israel, by elevating the Jewish Question to the international plane. In 1896, Herzl published Der Judenstaat (The State of the Jews), offering his vision of a future state; the following year he presided over the first World Zionist Congress. The Second Aliyah (1904–1914), began after the Kishinev pogrom; some 40,000 Jews settled in Palestine, but nearly half of them left. Both the first and second waves of migrants were mainly Orthodox Jews, but those in the Second Aliyah included socialist pioneers who established the kibbutz movement. During World War I, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour issued what became known as the Balfour Declaration, which "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people". At the request of Edwin Samuel Montagu and Lord Curzon, a line was also inserted stating "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country". The Jewish Legion, a group of battalions composed primarily of Zionist volunteers, assisted in the British conquest of Palestine. Arab opposition to the plan led to the 1920 Palestine riots and the formation of the Jewish organization known as the Haganah (meaning "The Defense" in Hebrew), from which the Irgun and Lehi paramilitary groups split off. In 1922, the League of Nations granted the United Kingdom a mandate over Palestine under terms similar to the Balfour Declaration. The population of the area at that time was predominantly Arab and Muslim, with Jews accounting for about 11% of the population. The Third (1919–1923) and Fourth Aliyahs (1924–1929) brought an additional 100,000 Jews to Palestine. Finally, the rise of Nazism in the 1930s led to the Fifth Aliyah, with an influx of a quarter of a million Jews. This caused the Arab revolt of 1936–1939 and led the British to cap immigration with the White Paper of 1939. With countries around the world turning away Jewish refugees fleeing the Holocaust, a clandestine movement known as Aliyah Bet was organized to bring Jews to Palestine. By the end of World War II, the Jewish population of Palestine had increased to 33% of the total population.
Originally posted by BirdOfillOmen
I'm very skeptical of these "prophets". Most of the predictions are actually really generic. "There's going to be war in the Middle East"... really?
Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by Misterlondon
An international court is formed, which does not allow countries to fight
like there is no country being invaded these days.
Really? So whats with Iraq and Afganistan? What about Libya and even Pakistan? Look around and see.
Many small wars will begin because of this...
like WW2 which was so small.
The statement said a few large wars and many small wars. There have been countless wars big and small just in the last 110 years of history.
There will be a few wars around the kingdom of Israel,
1. he states kingdom instead of democracy. there is no democracy in the world.
2. it was better to claim that Zionists will find a place to invade.
we don't need newly arrived prophets. we had the ones who were recognized by god.
Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by Bob Sholtz
thank you for reply. but let me ask you.
how do you define a prophet ? I think this is a basic question and shows us how we think differently. correct me if I am wrong with the definition
I define prophet as a person who has some supernatural powers and tells the people about the One who has gave him these powers.
not only a person that predicts some events and people praise him as The Lord.
Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
To me, this is the most interesting part of what I've read from this man so far...
Instead of working in the fields, people will dig everywhere, in right and wrong places, but the real power will be all around them, not being able to tell them, 'Come on, take me, don't you see that I am here, all around you.' Only after many a summer, people will remember this real power, and then they will realize how stupid it was to dig all those holes. This power will also be present in people but it will take a long time before they discover it and use it. Thus man will live for a long, long time, not being able to know himself. There will be many learned men who will think through their books that they know and can do everything. They will be the great obstacle for this realization [self-knowledge], but once men get this knowledge, then people will see what kind of delusion it was when they listened to their learned men. When that happens, people will be so sorry that they didn't discover it before, because this knowledge is so simple.
It really leaves you thinking...