China calls US culprit in global 'Internet war'

China calls US culprit in global 'Internet war'

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BEIJING – The Chinese military accused the U.S. on Friday of launching a global "Internet war" to bring down Arab and other governments, turning the tables on allegations of major online attacks on Western targets originating in China.

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Wow, not sure what to think about this. Other articles point that there's proof of China hacking when Google traced them to a Chinese city. As it's pointing to China who hacked the Pentagon and Google emails. No officials were hacked by the attackers, the article states. I've been following the related news for a bit now and am coming to a conclusion the whole thing is going to be big...
So, this is war now?

So far, I've only found tow versions of the story, not much for related links. One listed above with article, the other link has a more biased sounding title...

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I cannot believe anything from google
any more than i could believe something from the CIA or State Dept.

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doubly suspicious.
the google blog mentioned in the news article (here) promotes using google's 2 step email login authentication, which seems to want you to use a code generated on your phone as the 2nd step.
Maybe fear-mongering to get more app code loaded onto more peoples phones.
the more the merrier for google/cia

World Cyber War 1 is well under way and it seems that battle lines are being drawn here, still, better that than a bomb landing on top of me.

This really does not shock me and it is my opinion that China has to do something in the public eye to deny, or distract attention away from their own internet attacks on the U.S., and given the current U.S. involvement in the Arab nations, we are the perfect scape goat because we already look like idiots.

In the future we will probably see other countries jump on the band wagon and attack the U.S. with similar allegations...seems to be the perfect ploy...a political war with a political agenda and not a single missle needs to be launched.

The new age of war, the fighting will take place in the form of accusations, like this one, and it will be all out scare tactics and threats, much like the cold war without the nukes and countries like China will rise with what is already a fact...and that is our countries coruption and lies. The U.S. is doomed I am afraid and it is going to get worse. I am not even going to speak of how financially this is going to go...but that is the other angle.

Hold on to your hat because things are just getting started...not a word from China in years and now we have attacked them...hmmm...we are not the bully's we used to be and people are tired of our b.s.

I've felt a technological and economic war has been under way for some time.. I guess the truth of that is now bubbling to the surface with China appearing (to me) to be changing her stance from muted responses to matching the allegations thrown at her... can't see this as a good sign..

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The more I study on the topic, the more I agree, something isn't right.
I tried to make a Gmail account earlier to see if they had added the phone call/text confirmation to have an account, as I've seen on a few sites as of late. Sure enough it did. Never did that in the past.

Sorry for double post, I was redirected to a Google can't find page when posting?
Cannot find remote server error.

Triple post.

Yeah internet hacking is the cool form of war nowadays.
I have a simple solution, if they would simply unplug their sensetive info from the web, problem fixed!

Yesterday, I had a thought that the projected "Internet war" would lead to WW3. As it just being a part of the bigger picture for what is to come. If not that, and including most likely, forces moreso the use for the Ip Act and further copy write restrictions. It seems, all linked.

China - like all authoritarian regimes - is just a bit sensitive about things like the internet. They love to use it to spread propaganda and keep the masses meek and mild, but when it goes against them they get all jittery and paranoid.

There is a reason why China have banned Twitter, Facebook and a host of other blogs and websites (notably human rights websites, Amnesty International et al) which may enable the average Chinese to be a bit more socially cohesive and to see that their leaders are not the nice fluffy bunnies that they paint themselves to be.

If China is going to grow up, then it will have to start to face some of these challenges and move to a more open and transparent form of government. Oh, but wait.... If they did that then that will be the end of authoritarianism. Shame.

Regards

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I agree, but China is paranoid as they have to try and manage 1billion people.

The US is 280+Million, and look at the restrictions the govt are imposing on them.
Imagine what the US, with 1 billion would be like?

China is a paranoid communist regime. They dont want their people to have too much info. And folks on here thinkg the US gov are control freaks...you dont KNOW ANYTHING.

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And folks on here thinkg the US gov are control freaks...you don't KNOW ANYTHING.

That's a pretty bold statement! Are you saying the U.S. government is not in control or that they just have not gone overboard yet?

As far as not knowing anything...well now come on...that's not really true now is it?

Its in reference to folks who live in the US and think its so bad here while they long to live in a country like China where things are "GREAT". Those "kids" have no freaking clue.

Originally posted by jerryznv
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And folks on here thinkg the US gov are control freaks...you don't KNOW ANYTHING.

That's a pretty bold statement! Are you saying the U.S. government is not in control or that they just have not gone overboard yet?

As far as not knowing anything...well now come on...that's not really true now is it?

wait, let me see if i got this straight.

a teenager in maldives logs on to an indian university using his cousin's (a student at the university) account and manages to find logs of his cousin's activities while the latter was playing around with some hackers in tibet. the logs point to serious vulnerabilities that the tibetans have found on some servers based in an undisclosed location in china. these servers have since then been infected with trojans and backdoors and the tibetans have been using them for the past few months already. it turns out that these servers are by themselves hosting the software used by some chinese students to control pc's in the US for blog-posting purposes. now these computers in the US have also been infected with trojans from bulgaria, mostly because the owners of these computers keep on watching porn and downloading free stuff on the internet.

so this kid from maldives decides to try out his hacking skills and initiates a global cascading reaction where the powers that be don't even know who did what as it appears as if the chinese computers are hacking into america while american computers are doing their thing to europe via bulgaria and influencing events in the middle east as well.

... can somebody tell me how an internet war is supposed to be fought?
... where are the boundaries that delineate territory and national boundaries?
... where are the uniforms and how are we going to identify friend or foe?
... can we talk about collateral damage?

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Its in reference to folks who live in the US and think its so bad here while they long to live in a country like China where things are "GREAT". Those "kids" have no freaking clue.

Originally posted by jerryznv
reply to post by princeofpeace

 

And folks on here thinkg the US gov are control freaks...you don't KNOW ANYTHING.

That's a pretty bold statement! Are you saying the U.S. government is not in control or that they just have not gone overboard yet?

As far as not knowing anything...well now come on...that's not really true now is it?

I see...okay...well I happen to be one of those people that think our government is a bunch of control freaks, and while I love my country and all that is is founded on, I am saddly disappointed in the current state that our government is in. As for the "folks' that think China is a better place and long to be there...I say get going then...and I am in agreement that they don't have a clue what China is really like.

ww3 right around the corner now

I watched an interview yesterday with the new defence force chief of the ADF (Australian Defence Force)

www.abc.net.au...

During the interview he made a statement regarding Australias cyber warfare capabilities. Could be related.

CHRIS UHLMANN: What does the Defence force of the future look like? What are you preparing for? DAVID HURLEY: If you look at - for my particular three years coming up, there are about four big areas that we've gotta drive through over the next three years. The Joint Strike Fighter: we're right on the verge of that coming in. It's more than just an aeroplane. Electronically, it's a different type of aircraft for us altogether; takes us into a new environment. How that knits into our air control systems, our air combat systems and the wider ADF, we're on the run-up now to put that into place. That will be a game-changer for us. Our amphibious capability: the two large amphibious ships coming into play about 2014 or so, again, a completely different level of capability for the ADF that we need to spend the next three years, final ramp up to be able to put that into place. Cyber warfare: another game-breaker that we need to take our development further in. We're good at it at the moment; we can do better. Closer work with our allies. And the last one is some significant charges are gonna occur in Army over the next three years after their experiences on Iraq and Afghanistan. Those are gonna reshape the types of capability that we'll be able to offer government and the readiness of the ADF to deploy in operations. CHRIS UHLMANN: Concerns, though, about the rise of China and what that means for the stability of the region? DAVID HURLEY: Well, we will look at China and we engage with them quite frequently at the CDF and secretary level. Every year we have talks with the senior PLA leadership, talking about transparency of ambition, what is behind this development and so forth. It's a very positive relationship and they are a sovereign country, they have a right to develop a Defence force. We just need to better understand how they anticipate its role in the region will play out and how we engage with them, military-to-military.