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Topic started on 2-6-2011 @ 11:34 AM by AwakeinNM

I thought you all might get some satisfaction (or outrage) from this upcoming book by Ben Shapiro. It addresses liberal bias in Hollywood. He interviews many Hollywood producers and get some pretty candid answers. Not that this is a surprise to anyone.

In one video, "Friends" co-creator Marta Kauffman says that when she cast Candace Gingrich-Jones, half-sister of Republican former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, as the minister of a lesbian wedding, "There was a bit of [a middle finger] in it to the right wing."
Kauffman also acknowledges she "put together a staff of mostly liberal people," which is another major point of Shapiro's book: that conservatives aren't welcome in Hollywood.

Maybe that's because they're "idiots" and have "medieval minds." At least that's what "Soap" and "Golden Girls" creator Susan Harris thinks of TV's conservative critics.

SOURCE ARTICLE

Enjoy! I can't wait for the release date.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 11:46 AM by CaptGizmo

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Well duh... Who has not known that. I thought this was pretty common knowledge. I mean isn't Mel Gibson like the only Republican in Hollywood.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 11:51 AM by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by CaptGizmo
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Well duh... Who has not known that. I thought this was pretty common knowledge. I mean isn't Mel Gibson like the only Republican in Hollywood.

Nah, there are plenty. The thing that makes me smile is that these knuckleheads thought Shapiro was a liberal because he wore his Harvard cap.. so they spoke candidly and they are on video admitting the bias (not just bias, but outright loathing toward conservatives). To use an old 80s catchphrase: BUSTED.

Read the article - it's entertaining, and I can't wait til the videos hit YouTube.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 11:55 AM by dreamseeker

What in the world is wrong with being liberal?
I am a true liberal. The defintion of liberal orginally is being open to reform or change. What is wrong with being open to change. Sure there are humans who may have corrupted liberalism but same could be said of conservatism. I hate when people talk bad about "the liberal agenda". I think the "conservative" agenda is far worse.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 12:01 PM by CaptGizmo

Originally posted by dreamseeker
What in the world is wrong with being liberal?
I am a true liberal. The defintion of liberal orginally is being open to reform or change. What is wrong with being open to change. Sure there are humans who may have corrupted liberalism but same could be said of conservatism. I hate when people talk bad about "the liberal agenda". I think the "conservative" agenda is far worse.

I am what you might consider middle of the road with a lean toward the left, but when you have an overwhelming majority of people with that kind of influence then they have the ability to help sway elections and opinions thats just not good. Hollywood can reach the masses and put forth a one sided view instead of being a more level or even media source.

Lets face it, we have a lot of ...well ...dumb people out there that will believe anything that Hollywood puts out there. They hang on the edge of their seats waiting to hear about what will happen next in Lindsey Lohans life.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 12:07 PM by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by dreamseeker
What in the world is wrong with being liberal?
I am a true liberal. The defintion of liberal orginally is being open to reform or change. What is wrong with being open to change. Sure there are humans who may have corrupted liberalism but same could be said of conservatism. I hate when people talk bad about "the liberal agenda". I think the "conservative" agenda is far worse.

There's nothing wrong with being liberal, like there is nothing wrong with being religious, but you don't like it when a religious person tries to shove their ideology down your throat, do you??

This is what Hollywood is doing. Liberals want everyone to think like they do - ya know, kinda like a far-right Jesus freak. That is why everyone needs to abandon this desire to have things their way and go back to a constitutional government and back to a "live and let live" attitude.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 12:21 PM by TheWalkingFox

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"Busted"? You make it sound as if there's something being hidden here. There's nothing sneaky or underhanded here. See, there are conservatives in Hollywood. You don't hear about them much though, know why? They don't preach. They're there to make movies and TV shows, not bitch and moan about how everyone's out to get them. And the mostly-liberal workforce in Hollywood is fine with that. Sure if you have a W sticker on your car still, you'll get some odd looks, but hey, do your job and don't try to win converts, and we get along fine, right?

Which brings us to the unfortunate but obvious problem of conservatives in Hollywood; a lot of them are there on some messianic quest to try to "prove" how awful and terrible liberals are. Of course to these sort of conservatives, simply disagreeing with them is proof of how hideously subversive and diabolical liberals are. This results in a general tendency to try to avoid avowed and outspoken conservatives, simply to avoid having to deal with people who are set on working against you rather than with you.

My advice? if you want to be a conservative filmmaker or actor, do it because you want to act or make movies, not because you're a conservative.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 12:27 PM by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by AwakeinNM

"Busted"? You make it sound as if there's something being hidden here. There's nothing sneaky or underhanded here. See, there are conservatives in Hollywood. You don't hear about them much though, know why? They don't preach. They're there to make movies and TV shows, not bitch and moan about how everyone's out to get them. And the mostly-liberal workforce in Hollywood is fine with that. Sure if you have a W sticker on your car still, you'll get some odd looks, but hey, do your job and don't try to win converts, and we get along fine, right?

Which brings us to the unfortunate but obvious problem of conservatives in Hollywood; a lot of them are there on some messianic quest to try to "prove" how awful and terrible liberals are. Of course to these sort of conservatives, simply disagreeing with them is proof of how hideously subversive and diabolical liberals are.

My advice? if you want to be a conservative filmmaker or actor, do it because you want to act or make movies, not because you're a conservative.

It's the elephant in the room, dude. Everyone knows it, but it gets denied time and time again. This time they openly admit what they are accused of. Conservatives keep their mouths shut if they want to make it in Hollywood, and only open up after they've attained a status and fortune that afford them the opportunity to speak out. No one is on a messianic quest like the liberals themselves, by the way.

Interesting aside -- whenever I post on certain topics on ATS, like today, my brand new computer slows down dramatically, like there is spyware running in background. It has only ever happened when I am on this site.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 12:41 PM by TheWalkingFox

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
It's the elephant in the room, dude. Everyone knows it, but it gets denied time and time again.

No, what gets denied is the paranoid and douchebaggy ramblings that liberals are on some vindictive quest to take over and ruin America through holding Hollywood hostage, and that lone conservative heroes are fighting a holy subversive battle to turn that around.

This time they openly admit what they are accused of.

See, there's no secret that a large proportion of people in Hollywood are liberals, just like there's no secret that a large proportion of people on Wall Street aren't. It's also no secret that no one wants to work with people who are set on being a pain in your ass. Conservatives - you're standing as example here - tend to be hardheaded pains in the ass who have launched on some crusade to prove to the world how evil and nasty all liberals are... so no one wants to work with them.

See, Hollywood is a work environment that requires people skills. You have to be able to get along with all sorts of folks. Unfortunately, it seems a large number of conservatives have the social graces of a coyote in a trap.t

Conservatives keep their mouths shut if they want to make it in Hollywood,

Seems like a good gameplan, given what usually falls out of their mouths.

and only open up after they've attained a status and fortune that afford them the opportunity to speak out.

And in doing so, get recognized as the enormous douchebags they were all along. Mel Gibson, for instance.

No one is on a messianic quest like the liberals themselves, by the way.

Ironically, Paul Reubens - the inventor of "I know you are, but what am I? HURH HURH!" - is a pretty liberal dude.

Interesting aside -- whenever I post on certain topics on ATS, like today, my brand new computer slows down dramatically, like there is spyware running in background. It has only ever happened when I am on this site.

left-wing conspiracy, I assure you.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 01:23 PM by redrose123

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Sounds like a soft glove version of Red Stars over Hollywood. Back at that time they were all accused of being communists. Undoubtedly some were. However that term was used towards anyone who didn't dance to the political correct agenda. Now I guess liberals are the boogie men for the same reason. If you don't step in line with Faux News ideology and type of lies you are evil and need to be watched and done away with if need be. . In Germany the Nazi's (conservatives) made a case and attacked the communists (liberals) then they attacked the trade Unions. Both considered as enemies of the state rounded up and killed. Hitler was their first trial of the implementation of the NEW WORLD ORDER in recent history. Bush Sr. Announced it this time. Anyone remember? You tell me what group are pushing that AGENDA it certainly isn't the liberals. Not saying there are pretenders in both camps to make it look like they are at odds when actually they work together. I was raised and use to be a conservative it is no longer the same. The people claiming that title and are determined to rule the world are completely nuts.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 02:01 PM by AwakeinNM

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Quite the angry, name-calling liberal, ain't ya? A much better person than any conservative, right?

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 03:35 PM by GogoVicMorrow

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Since this is from the MSM could it not be a Conservative pushing MSM stirring up anti liberal sentiments?
EH? EH?

It's all the same dude.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 09:36 PM by AwakeinNM

I wonder which of you searched on "liberal" and found this thread - just to defend your ideology.

For the record, I "lean left" on some issues and "lean right" on others. I put those in quotes because it seems like everything is politicized anymore, and shouldn't be. Every little cause has to be claimed by one side or the other to keep things divided.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 10:02 PM by CranialSponge

All the labelled pigeon holes that people stuff themselves into.
It's friggin hilarious.

Liberal, Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Libertarian, Labourist, Teabagger, Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Right-Winger, Left-Winger... did I miss any ?

I'm all of the above in one way shape or form... what the hell do you do with someone like me eh ?

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 10:09 PM by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by CranialSponge

All the labelled pigeon holes that people stuff themselves into.
It's friggin hilarious.

Liberal, Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Libertarian, Labourist, Teabagger, Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Right-Winger, Left-Winger... did I miss any ?

I'm all of the above in one way shape or form... what the hell do you do with someone like me eh ?

Well... I'll compliment you on your hat.

Seriously, though, The reason I posted this article is to point out that the manipulation of the media is real and not imagined, as some would have us believe. Adhering to an ideology that is merely a construct of the people in power is ridiculous. When these card-carrying lefties come slithering up to defend the liberal agenda, it makes my skin crawl. They are just as bad as the bible-thumping right winger who wants to foist their beliefs on everyone else. Everyone has a right to their beliefs, as long as they are THEIR beliefs and they don't try to make them everyone else's. It amazes me how many people don't have beliefs as much as they subscribe to someone else's. They don't even think for themselves.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 10:16 PM by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

There's nothing wrong with being liberal, like there is nothing wrong with being religious, but you don't like it when a religious person tries to shove their ideology down your throat, do you??

Honestly? The movie business is profit driven, and movies are a luxury item, not a necessity. People do not go to see movies that they dont want to see. And movies no one wants to see bomb at the box office. I think people actually need to face the facts that while movie studios may have bosses that are more liberal, and make movies that are more liberal, its in large because the consumers of movies are, also, more liberal. In other words liberal movie viewers have selected for more liberal movie makers.

At least some "conservatives" particularly some versions of Christian, said movies were the devils work (My grandmother did not let her children watch movies at all) And guess what? That skewed the demand for movies strongly in favor of liberals at a formative time in Movie making history, (the post war years) so...........I just cant be worried or concerned that movie makers have a liberal bias.

It was selected for by movie viewers who have a LOT more power over what kinds of movies do well than television viewers do over what shows we see on TV.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 10:20 PM by AwakeinNM

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Or, liberal-themed movies are fantasy-based, which is what moviegoers want - escapism.

We can spin it however we want, it still doesn't change the words that these producers spoke themselves, about themselves.

reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 10:41 PM by Illusionsaregrander

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Well, lets face the facts on even that point though. Murdoch owns Fox. He is a hard core, crazy right winger, and Fox has some of the most liberal shows on television. He isnt pushing a liberal agenda. He is profiting from the liberal shows, to create an audience for his very right wing news network. (As some people dont change the channel when the news comes on if they watch the show before and after the news.)

He could have ALL conservative programming on his channel, and....................he doesnt. Why? Because America is a lot more liberal than it is conservative. No one is forcing liberal messages on the unwilling, even conservative stations have to run liberal shows to remain competitive.

Edit to add,

And I do agree that escapism is part of it. People do just want peace, enough to eat, to laugh, have a good time, and to just live and let live for the most part.

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reply posted on 2-6-2011 @ 11:29 PM by TheWalkingFox

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
reply to post by TheWalkingFox

Quite the angry, name-calling liberal, ain't ya? A much better person than any conservative, right?

Well, I didn't call anyone any names. I did point out that certain behaviors are to quote, "douchebaggy" and nobody wants to deal with those behaviors. if you took it personally, well, if the shoe fits, right?

Angry? Why on earth would I be angry? I spend my time on ATS trying to explain reality to all stripes of people - conservative, liberal, apolitical, vegetable - If anything it's more of a casual resignation.

A much better person than any conservative? Well, I don't know about "much" but I have noticed I have a stronger grasp on ethical behavior and social awareness than most of the self-declared conservatives I've met. I also seem to know more history and understand science better. Oh; and I shoot better than any of the conservative dudes I've met at the range. Granted I don't go that often, but hey.

I guess it depends on your standards of what constitutes "better," I guess. Also there might very well be a conservative out there who beats me in these departments. if so, he's gotta be a Zen Monk or something.

reply posted on 3-6-2011 @ 12:30 AM by davidgrouchy

Originally posted by AwakeinNM

There's nothing wrong with being liberal, like there is nothing wrong with being religious, but you don't like it when a religious person tries to shove their ideology down your throat, do you??

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Honestly? The movie business is profit driven, and movies are a luxury item, not a necessity. People do not go to see movies that they dont want to see. And movies no one wants to see bomb at the box office.

That is a gorram Liberal Truth. Which is the worst kind of Truth. No truth at all.

The movie business is EXCLUSIVE not profit driven.

There are plenty of profitable stories, plays, books, films, generas, movements, and inventions, that get zero play from the movie business. Until the movie business can have EXCLUSIVE rights to the profits that is.

If the movie business was actually profit driven then we would have tons of movie makers competing with each other to make movies about all the amazing things all the amazing entrepreneurs throughout American History have achieved. Entire neighborhoods lifted by one business person. A graduating circle of friends who change the intellectual landscape of the country. But that can't be allowed. Only sex and scandal can be important. If a story doesn't have enough sex, it must have scandal, and even then someone must own the EXCLUSIVE rights to it.

The fanboys of the world really have no idea how many people have been destroyed by the movie business the way it is. Celebrity must be worshipped, and that unquestioningly. In fact by even writing this I am probably being brought up on charges of heresy by someone right now, even though I haven't stated a complete thought yet.

And that's part of the problem isn't it.

Just the sound of my preparatory refutations of the premise

...

so that I can make a counter claim,

one made in a why that the audience will

understand and be able to wield fully as though

it were their own idea ... the sound of my voice ...

as it prepares to say that which no one... and I mean ... no one ... can be allowed to say.

No.

Already someone is bleeding out of their forehead from the shouting of the voices in their own brain. that I am bad bad bad, wrong wrong wrong, and must be shouted down down down.

What a crock pot of Styrofoam snow, rash inducing makeup, and toxic smoke machines. The movie business _IS_ exclusive driven. The only time it has anything to do with profits is when the profits are being withheld, taken away, or hidden.

YouTube Link

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What happened when James Dean took off his shirt, and he wasn't wearing a T-shirt. T-shirt sales plummeted, undoing everything he had done in his 1956 movie where he was wearing a T-shirt.

Decades of reprogramming had to be done. Till finally the Fonze could ski over a shark in his T-shirt and no one would notice or even comment that he was wearing a T-shirt. ... while water skiing.

YouTube Link

2
What happened when Marilyn Monroe railed against using trucks to run down wild horses. Hitchhikers took the roads in droves willing to chip in on gas, and everyone started sharing their ride.

Decades of reprogramming had to be done. Till finally every strong, glamorous, independent woman could drive
their convertible into the grand canyon, and no one would notice or comment that all things cowboy had just been destroyed as crazy. Hell even a horse knows better than to jump into the Grand Canyon. But the real moral of the story to every tight sisters pair is take-your-own-car.

YouTube Link

3
Why did John Lennon walk onto the set of a football game. Droves of revolutionaries suddenly understood why
the CIA took over communications in every country they toppled. That Insane poet, what did you do.

Decades of reprogramming have had to be done. The people don't own the airwaves, or the broadcasts, or the
rights to live entertainment. No we must be happy with seeing people behind glass, outside on the street, waving at the camera, behind the line, and only allowed to say something if the person holding the microphone speaks to them first and then points the microphone at them. No passing of the Microphone allowed. Yes we all know it's true. The common people are to be seen, and not heard.

So who on the entire earth has the Exclusive right to make a business of movies. Now that youTube is a success, small artists can't even make a nickel off of that. Unless they give up all rights to exclusiveness, and Accept that the revenue from advertising gained from viewers of their channels are not their own.

Is it about business?
Or is it about Exclusive rights, of which we have none.
Extra credit for anyone who knows what these three artists have in common.

David Grouchy

Look, I know a lot of you think The Artists known as Prince is crazy, but have you ever read what he has actually said about YouTube. Did you know that the real debate was already buried ten years ago. Do you even care?