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Originally posted by Redwookieaz
Seriously I am amazed at the attitudes of some of the guys here. You guys really believe that guys are better than women? I can't believe in this day and age that sexism is still so rampant.
I know that most men are stronger physically than most women, I'm not delusional, but if a woman can pass the same tests and meet the same requirements then why should they not be able to serve?
Btw, I have a friend who is a professional kickboxer. Some guy kept mouthing off to her about how he could beat her ass becuase she's a girl. Guess what, she gave him the beat down of a lifetime. It was hillarious.
You guys are seriously underestimating women.edit on 2-6-2011 by Redwookieaz because: Grammar oops.
Originally posted by Sinny
After all, there just sperm doners.
Originally posted by Sinny
It amazes me how deluded men are LOL
1) Physical requirements...Usually men are stronger. Fact. But im sure there are a few women out there that contest this. If a women can PASS her physical let her in. Since when did winning a fight always rest on strength? What about agility, tactics, and survival instinct?
2) Biological differences...What on Earth has menstraul cycle got to do with it? I miss mine cuz i get a nice needle in my ass every 3 months!
3)Mental capabilities...this one makes me laugh..apparently women have the weaker mind!! Havent all the men just stated that they wouldnt like women in the forces as they would be compelled to rescue the women over their objective?!?..man up!..we wouldnt offer you the same courtesy not that that reasons not BS anyway, I know half of you dont hesitate to kill civilian women and children abroad you brainwashed baffoons!! (courtesy of wikileaks)
4)Fear of abuse...Dont be so damn patronising!!..This is something women have to be wary of at any given time or place. Heck it happens in the military its self..even to the men!! I personally think it would have more of a phycological effect on males as it usually goes against there very nature (Unless gay)..women are very aware of all the possible nasty, disgusting things that MAY happen to them....and if they still want to sign up..who are men to tell us?
Men have suppressed us women long enough, even though they are superior in one way only.. physical strength. Wow! Cuz thats alot to go on ENNIT?!?
Put it this way, since human kind began, the men have been in charge and look at the shambles that is the world today...yee not very good is it? I hope soon women will take their rightfull place as EQUAL to or SUPERIOR than MAN...because we are Youz just dont know it yet..not fully anyways. Lets get back to basics and take a leaf out of the lionesses, hyenas and black widows books..we need to put men in their places. After all, there just sperm doners.
Dr Tatem said: "If current trends continue, then women will run faster than men in the 100 metres of the 2156 Olympics." The researchers plotted winning times for the Olympic 100 metres against the year the race took place and found that there was a straight "linear" relationship for each sex - in other words both men and women were getting consistently faster
Originally posted by VagabondSoul
I've watched ATS for quite a while, but I thought I'd join today to make a reply. I'm surprised that in this thread no one has spoken out about many facts that I find pretty obvious when analyzing this topic. The main point that comes to the front of my mind is that the military is about the status quo. When things start to move away from this or have the possibility to move away from it, they don't respond too terribly well.
The problem isn't with what a woman can or can't do (I'll touch on a few points later). It mainly has to do with what the Navy Seals are now and you want it to change to accommodate a new system. Let's say that we get women who can fully meet the requirements of a Navy Seal. Awesome, we've now come to a new set of circumstances, and this will be why this will not ever be allowed. We are bringing in the opposite gender into a squad oriented paradigm. There are a number of problems that can occur that would not have to be dealt with normally. We have the possibility of male members not working well with the female members in individual teams. I see earlier that it was responded that if they can't adjust then they shouldn't be a seal. Unfortunately the current establishment will not take this point of view.
If a paradigm has been set that has performed to overwhelming success and is threatened by a new condition, the military just wont allow that new condition in. It's really that simple. They won't lose what they have now to accommodate something new. Other factors that may come into play that would cause new situations would be the men's response to protecting a female, the possibility of relationships to occur (This can happen with gay men as well. But let's be honest there are a greater number of heterosexual members of the armed forces.), the possibility for new emotional dynamics to enter the squad (People do develop feelings for others no matter their intent.), and finally we reach physical differences.
Physical differences when it comes to endurance of the body is very different within men and women. Our bodies are different on a GENETIC level. As one person replied before and was mistaken, conditioning will not be passed on genetically. Sorry biological reproduction does not allow for the passing of these gained traits throughout a lifetime. One main difference between women and men in athletic scenarios is that women's bodies deteriorate differently than a man. Joint related injury is much more common in women in high impact scenarios. This is due to how women use their bodies compared to men. Men and women can both run at similar levels but when women decelerate from running this causes added injury to the ACL due to how a woman's body is shaped. This is just one example. There is nothing you can do about this. Squad operations are based on set tactics. When a new set of circumstances due to gender have to be made to accommodate new individuals that can radically change the way things operate, the military will take the easier route of maintaining the current status quo.
Just my observations.