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Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by 8311-XHT
Well I don't believe they did 9/11, just let it happen. And that other stuff they did last century and didn't understand what they were doing anyway. I don't think, however, you realize the statistical facts here. With 7 billion people on Earth and this supposed fusion power source easy to make, somebody WOULD make it, and somebody WOULD sacrifice their family for it if they wanted to. With such huge numbers, mind you that's nearly 7,000,000,000 people, somebody would be that heartless.
Don't make excuses for your own delusions. It doesn't exist. We already know of elecrto-magnetic generators that literally could go on and on for as long as the magnet lasts before it decays, this is close to free energy, and anyone can built it. We already know that resonance frequencies can alter the weave lengths of matter and change their identities in some cases. This basically is free energy, though it takes a lot of money to make. We already know of countless other, real, viable free energy sources from hydropower, to solar, to wind, to carbon-fiber nanotubes working with lenses and sunlight. You want to go believing in your fantasy, go right ahead. The rest of the world is going to do real things on real science.edit on 4-6-2011 by Gorman91 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
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Here, read up on why your world will never work.
www.working-minds.com...
Originally posted by USAisdevil
reply to post by Amaterasu
amaturusu , good luck to you in your cause .I have followed some of your posts regarding your attempts on creating the van graff torsional energy generator and concept of planetarian party .good luck to you and your family's attempt for economic and energy freedom .
Secondly I would suggest you leave the USA and go to a place like Iceland or Greenland , much more freedom though cold is harsh and govt won't track what you do . these nations alongside Russia (leader in subatomic torsional energy technology) and are trully free in terms of economic freedom(Greenland,Iceland) ,Russia has a tendency to not allow commercial use of torsion devices as they could harm its oil and gas industry,but they do not threaten inventors with death like USA and the West .
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
Oh I agree. You see what's by my username? Of course I disagree. But there is a difference between actual and ideal. You, and hell, me too, are idealists. But idealists never win. Rand was a practical person. And, although her claims would make you and me angry, she's right. Money is God in the world. That's not a good thing, it's just that that's the way the world works. Love of money is the source of many evils, but not THE source of evil. A world without money would have its own evils. Evil exists. It cannot be defeated by man, for evil is part of our evolutionary history. We simply call it survival of the fittest.
And not to be devil's advocate, but statistically speaking there are fewer psychopaths and the lot in the wealth than if you randomly took someone out of a crowed.
And that rat poison, in non-american IE, normal portions, is not dangerous but for people like myself whom lack the protein sequences to digest it.
It's a fundamental biological fact that Aspartame can be digested by most of the population and broken down into edible foods.
But there are some who don't have the genes to do that, myself included. The fact that this minority cannot digest the food is no logical reason to not use it.
Though if I had power, of course I would ban it because it's just not healthy period.
But Americans eat a lot. Ergo, they get poisoned. It's kind of like with anything. Some people are allergic, some people are perfectly fine, and some people who are perfectly fine have so much of it they poison themselves from it.
Abundance is not good. It simply never was. A person really only needs a 100x100 square food plot of land, plumbing, food, and air to live, and a few books, fellow humans, and crafts to live happily. Everything is human greed. And like it or not, 7 billion people cannot live in a "anything I want I can have" attitude. Free energy doesn't change that fact, nor does a world without money, nor anything else you said.
The world will never have flying cars and floating cities.
It has free energy right now in the form of magnetic, solar, wind, and hydro power sources. But nobody is doing anything about it. That's the fact. People don't care, evn when their salvation is right in front of them.
People won't change if you love them, people won't change if you give them free energy, and people won't change if you make money nonexistence. They will still trade, fight, and hate.
Want to change the world? Not to go all Christian on you, but I will. Only a leader who lives amongst his people without a home or a family will help the situation. You can suppress human hatred to a point that people don't kill and fight each other, but there's always that part of the brain that hates, and if you don't have that, then you've simply not lived to feel such hatred.
Human greed can be suppressed so that people don't take beyond what they need, but there will always be some who take a little more.
You just have to live with that and forgive them.
You can give them knowledge, free energy, peace, and brotherhood, but young boys and girls will still fight by nature, and even though they will mature and grow out of it, it's still there, and must always be fought.
The universal law of decay is true even in culture. And all cultures end. So that even if you could do these things and make the world a peaceful world where everyone's bellies are full and water is clean, and everyone's happy, within 3 generations something will go wrong, and something will decay, and people will fight.
Thus there's only one thing you can do. Train leaders to do the same as you did and hold it back just enough, just that little but beyond, and things won't decay beyond manageable levels. However, the world will not sustain itself in brotherly love if you got it there. You can change the world and die happy knowing you did that, you cannot change the world permanently
And only the memory of your efforts will live on to inspire others, but the fight never ends, because we are human. You're floating cities would come crashing down, and the flying cars will run out of fuel, and they too will turn to rust, and man will take up sticks and stones to steal skilled craftsmen who can build them new ones, and then it starts all over again.
Once again, this is humanity. And people cannot be put to one mindset. You can just create a herd that lives the way you train them and pray to God they can manage between the exchanges of Shepard that lead them
I, as an architect in training, am trying my best to motivate people. I can make houses that change culture, forums that open leaders to their people, etc etc. But I cannot do this alone. You want to help, go out and use your skills. But I know I'll die with the world in ruin. I'll be happy to be remembered in spirit for the things I tried to do.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
Honest truth is some men just want to watch the world burn. When I was younger I had dreams of this general who brought down the system. Was a man seeking to do what you said. Only he used violence to achieve it. He would barge into corporate head quarters, shoot the tops, take their plans, and burn the building down. He called it "nationalization for the greater good". But I as an observer could not deny I wanted him to do these things. He got people behind him, and nobody could touch him. Eventually, through it all, he lost site of why he was doing these things. By several years past, he was doing it just for the sake of consistency. He was doing it, because the act of theft felt good to him. By his actions the people had full bellies, bliss, and many other things. But the general effectively turned his dictatorship of America into a vampire that was sucking the world's blood for his own people. He very well could support the world and rule it all. But he just did not want to. He was a man doing all the right things, but doing it without care for those whom got in his way. He got rid of money, he got rid of hunger, of all the vices of society. He took down the world and its ways, but the world did not change because of it. And eventually, the world took him down, and all his people were killed by the world, and then the whole world had what he had made, a few decades later, the victors split into a civil war, because some wanted to use free energy to control revolt. The nation with unlimited power has unlimited "power". It wasn't that people could just build the same tech and be independent. It was that the government knew how to find where the tech was, EMP it or deactivate it, and effectively have a monopoly.
Now of course I don't consider dreams real. but if it my mind can postulate a possibility, then your perfect world is not secure
In terms of sociopaths, no. Steven Colbert, of all people, had an author of a book on about a month ago. This was somebody who actually went to dictators and had a keen eye for who was a psychopath. His research claims that there are more of them in the general populace than the leaders of the world. perhaps, the correct terminology, is that they are higher up on the leadership scale Being so few they band together. I've no doubt Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld were. Bush not so much. I think he was just too afraid to stick up to them.
I am not supporting aspartame. Read. I am allergic to it and I would rather it banned because in mass it is bad for you. I suffered a lot of nerve damage when I was a baby because of it. But learn some chemistry and you'll see it's not bad in small amounts. Now if you go and have the diet soda every day twice a day, you're killing yourself however. You can go and look up related species of chemicals yourself. our own brain tissue has similar species constructing it. Bare in mind, however, that just like Kuru and the like, a prion can do horrors to the human body, but we're not dealing with such things.
Aspertame is no logical choice when safe things are cheaper to make. I think of Sucralose and the lot. These are cheaper and healthier.
And yet we don't go to them automatically. of course there's some money in the back rooms. But just look at the chemistry and learn some things about digestion. It's not dangerous if you're not allergic and you're healthy.
That said, there's a variety of people with different effects with it. And As I have said, I don't trust it. I'm going on what I know about chemistry and break down. We will see in 20 years what heavy doses of it are like mentally. And the CEOs will be alive to be prosecuted, so I cannot honestly see why they would try to hide it.
If you gave them all that 1/4th plot of land of Australia with an extremely dense dense population. For example, the Earth's population can fit in Texas with a NYC density. But not everyone wants that. And people will disperse and spread out. It's what they want. It's their nature. They want to go out into the countryside. At least some, others prefer the city. But either way, humanity is spread out. And it's getting bigger. The world has enough to support it barely at 9 billion, and with vertical farms and other such available tech, probably some 14 billion. But we have already gone from 2 billion to 7 billion in half a century. This simply is not functioning. I am no fan of changing anything though. I believe people have a right to live as they wish, governments have the responsibility to suppling their demand. otherwise they shouldn't be trying to get involved with their lives.
energy is not the only problem. Energy is not a problem. The sun supplies all anyone really needs. Food is the problem, and there is not enough.
We waste too much and eat too much. We need more space. Space farms or whatever you want, point is we need more farmland. Vertical farms can bolster the supply, but not enough to supply us. basically, we are a virus that needs a new host. We need more planets.
If we had the tech in black ops then the military wouldn't have spent 60 million dollars on a brand new chopper for a mission nobody was suppose to know about. We wouldn't be investing millions in new chopper blades that are silent. We wouldn't be investing millions into the m1a3 abrams, nor the the countless other programs the army is working on as it upgrades the military by 2014ish.
There is no indication of any financing of such a project, and no evidence for such devices in practice
And a few ufo pictures is not enough in an era of photoshop and after effects. We need real plans, real proof, real science. There is none. Look at where the money goes and there you will see all the secrets of this country. There is nothing being invested in for such things. Most of the money is going into next generation guns, space planes, and vehicles. Not floating cars and cities.
You can build electromagnetic energy sources anywhere quite literally. Get yourself some magnets and align them right, and see how much longer the spin then alone. Magnets hold onto energy, rather than burn energy to run. Inputed energy is held onto to do work continuously. This is why its so efficient. nobody wants to really make anything though because, and myself included, I just couldn't be bothered.
Hatred is born with. Why do you think children cry when they see something new? They have no experience with it, and they cry.
Fear and hatred lead into each other.
Only when you have been taught that it is wrong do you stop.
Where I grew up, I was taught not to fight. So I did not. But I did fight anyway because people were aggressive. This was not because of scarcity. This was because of us being two boys, and having nothing better to do. Having to prove yourself maybe? Idk.
Is that scarcity?
What's so scarce? Respect? maybe. Makes no sense to me. I am content with who I am. And then of course you get psychopaths, and they are a condition born that way. They don't even feel such things. They truly just love the feel of a fight. of winning.
The best example of fighting without need for anything has to be Egypt's coastal wars. There was nothing scarce. Egypt simply did not want neighbors who could compete with them. So they killed them before they could. There's other examples but I can't really recall. Though most fights and wars are over scarcity, it's not all things.
Oh wow. Please don't tell me you said they could take more if they wish.
Allow me to explain what this leads to. When a person is given unlimited supply and told they can take however much they wish, they will. Then they will keep taking, and then they will get fat and have no life to live other than to die.
It's not even that medical people could eliminate their fat and they would be healthy again. It's that a person, when treated like a dog, and yes that is what you are doing, will become a dog.
Ultimately only a few in such a society are motivated by their own desire to do something with their lives.
But the rest take what they want, fill themselves, and lose their humanity.
They become slaves to suckling at the bosom of the hand that feeds.
It's no that everyone would become this. It's that some would hate it. Some would see this and grow to hate what their fellow man has become.
I want to show you an example. It's a good video game from a year or so ago. It's simply not that everyone has what they need and want, it's that some people, by simple random chance, grow to dislike the fact that the people are no longer alive.
They only go to get fed and laugh at something, and then die
By nothing but chance and chance alone, one child in millions will grow up motivated by his own desire to learn and become something, a self sufficient child.
But he will see his fellow man more interested in food and laughs then knowledge, and want to end that.
And it only takes that one. Here. These people find more or less a virtual heaven, and they end it. not because of greed, not because of scarcity. They came into this heaven from a dead world. This could be their peace, their joy, their bliss. One even wants it. But because their fellow man are not human anymore, one chooses to end it. Simply for freedom, not anything else. They are just consumers with bliss. Bliss is not the only goal in life. it can be a motivator for destruction
It only takes one, just one person who disagrees.
And do you honestly expect you will have all 100+ billion people agree? Not likely.
And that;s the problem. Your world IS perfect. It IS ideal. And therefore, it is impossible. That's being human.
I'm guessing that might be true of You, but when I place Myself in that position
No... They are FREED of slavery into the opportunities that presently exist for only the lucky few who are rich and can pursue Their bliss. And who would They be "slaving" for as They live life as today's elite live?
Oh, I doubt that very much. They would be too busy finding Their own bliss. Too busy partaking of all the advancements no longer suppressed for profit. Too busy enjoying Their time on this planet as Each is also accorded. Who would hate that?
Um... It's only about 7 billion, and They don't have to "agree." Release the plenum energy extraction and They can stay as They are or live more richly. Their choice. They will find that They can afford more. And then whatever They want. And then - "affording" things will be ancient history.
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Amaterasu
But you assume all would go along. I wouldn't. I just cannot accept such a system so close to my own ideal, but so locked and closed minded to taking any other direction.
And that's the fault. What do you expect, the whole world to follow?
Nobody's ever gotten more than a third of the world to follow along. It doesn't matter if you have the perfect system. Communism was the perfect system in its day, it failed. Fact is a good majority of people will never follow along for no other reason than it not being their own ideal. And like it or not, without a leader, it can never become more than a cult stuck in one state or city or nation, never going beyond that. Why? Because most people need an image to follow if they are to trust a movement.
thing is, you're not offering a structure. You're offering your opinion of a structure.
Some people's living standards will rise, others will not simply because of who they are and how they live.
We read about such people all the time. lonesome people who sit on their chairs so long their flesh fuses with the fabric. It's their choice to not want to fix their solution and not want anyone else.
Do you expect the Pakistan tribal regions to desire your way?
need for money won't dissipate on its own.
Somebody is going to take your energy system and make it more efficient somehow.
Probably the left-overs of the people who were hiding it. They're going to demand something in exchange.
The sheer unity of mind and ideology needed to build just one space ship in our own modern era is extremely difficult.
They effectively ARE on your system.
Friend's spouse works for NASA and when the government shutdown was imminent, they were ready to work without pay. They are on your ideal. But look at them. They are hated by some, called liars by others, and can't even get a real space plane built. Why these problems?
Because it's tiresome. It's tiresome being weighed down by government timelines with your own personal skills, and the civilian opinion of yourself.
The system you propose cannot work because all humans do not have the same minds.
Some are greedy by birth, others caring by birth, others like myself creative from birth, others uncaring to emotions and only seeking their own glory by birth (this being psychopaths).
And like I said, by simple random chance, some people just want to watch the world burn.
You're system doesn't change these people. It demands they adapt for your own ideal. All governments do this, it's just that some governments ask much less of you, and that's why your system cannot work.
Everything damages the body. Right now, billions of particles are hitting your dna. Some, by random chance, hit it and damage it. You cannot avoid this fact. It comes with being in the universe. Some things do it a little bit more than others, but in terms of chances of hitting it, it's just quite too low to care. Aspartame does do damage over time. As does drugs like pot, Cigarettes, red meat, burnt food, unwashed fruits, blowfish, and many others. Some of these are legal, others are not. That's special interest of course. But we accept as humans that we are dieing, and that what we eat is causing it mainly. Doesn't change the fact that some people just don't care.
Well there you go. Sucralose does nothing to me. It's the much needed replacement for aspartame. But it hurts you. I shouldn't be blocked from using it because it hurts you.
Sucralose is made by chemically altering the structure of sugar molecules by adding chlorine atoms in place of hydroxyl groups.(Everything You Need to Know About Sucralose, International Food Information Council ) Sucralose is therefore chlorinated sugar; a chlorocarbon.
Chlorocarbons are poisonous; they're used in bleach, disinfectants, insecticide, poison gas, and hydrocholric acid. (www.holisticmed.com...) Because it technically started as sugar, sucralose can be marketed as "made from sugar."
To find and avoid the sweetener, you have to actually be on a mission to do so, and read every ingredient label.
Why would you want to go to all the trouble to avoid sucralose?
The US FDA approved sucralose in 1998, but it has not yet been approved in most European nations. In the pre-approval stage, the FDA conducted short-term tests that actually found the potential for toxicity, but it was approved anyway.
According to the "New Scientist" November 23 1991 edition on page 13, the pre-approval tests conducted on animals (you know how much I hate these tests) showed toxicity:
Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage)
Enlarged liver and kidneys
Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus
Increased cecal weight
Reduced growth rate
Decreased red blood cell count
Hyperplasia of the pelvis
Extension of the pregnancy period
Aborted pregnancy
Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights
Diarrhea
Additionally, the government doesn't monitor health effects after the initial tests. There is no warning information of potential side effects on the labels of the sweetener's products.
I have the genes that allow it to be digested just fine. Now here's the thing. What exactly is natural? Because humanity, by all accords, is not natural.
We are an alien in terms of how we act with the world and our energy demands. We have to build our own environment just to live, because we are incompatible with the ones around us. We cannot take from the natural world because we would destroy it.
We need to make our own spin off mini-natural world to supply ourselves.
So when it comes to things being natural, I just don't really see how anything mankind eats, does, or acts like is natural. Natural would be living in the trees and only 50,000 humans on Earth. But that's genocide and impossible and evil.
You keep mentioning research for a lot of things but just as with VP, I don't think you fully understand. Like I said, go take a chemical course. Learn the chemicals your dealing with, Learn their active sites and how they react to active sites in the human body.
Don't trust research unless you're had a taste of it yourself. I cannot honestly state to trust research in the field of GMO crops because I don't have any clue what the protein sequences they use are like. Judge not the claims of experts correct until you yourself have had at least a brief read through of the why to their claims. There are countless examples of fail-tacular "experts". This Paul Revere stuf with Sarah Palin is just the recent example. I have seen the news broadcasting about "extraterrestrial particles", thinking its life when all it is is literally dirt not from Earth. Learn for yourself before you assume truth. Some men just want money from it all.
The study found:
a strong association between author affiliation to the GM industry (professional conflict of interest) and study outcome
at least one of the authors was connected to industry in almost half the GM health and nutrition studies analyzed
where there was such a conflict of interest, 100% of the studies (41 out of 41) made a favorable GM safety finding.
studies funded by industry or involving scientists employed by industry are almost certain to produce conclusions in favor of product commercialization.
CEOs get prosecution all the time. But they just bare with it and go back once they're done. They have too much money for fines or jail to matter. My solution is to just shoot them with a firing squad. If they die they die, if they live they live. But I'm a bit more on the extreme side.
Higher standards in the western perspective are associated with lower birthrates. I can assure you that the world you create would have higher birth rates because they would have everything they need. In the world you described to me, I would personally desire having 5-7 kids, a nice family house on a hilltop somewhere, and a little community built around it. In the western world I live in today, if I was rich and famous, I would only have 2 kids, maybe 3, because I don't trust this world enough to take care of them. I want to raise them to my own standards least they become Hollywood whores or coc aine heads. But the world you described to me is indeed heaven on Earth. Thus I would have no fear of having many children.
The world would be so well that if I couldn't raise them, my neighbors and their friends would. Now when the world started exploding in population size, what would happen a century down the road? How long until you simply have no more room and no more resources.
The government makes 15 trillion dollars every year. The money required to make even the most basic starship, and your tech does allow for warp drive weather you know it or not, would be in the ever higher trillions.
See, the thing about warp drive is it's going to collect a LOT of matter en route to where it wants to go. When it comes back, that warp shell is going to release that matter in a bright explosive burst of something going many times the speed of light to suddenly only a few mph.
Where are these light bursts? They would be bright enough to light up the sky. Of course, only a fool would come out of warp speed near the Earth. Like I said, that stuff affects the bodies of mass around it. You are masking your own true mass. But that still means we should see stars that quickly come and go off in the outer solar system.
'm sorry, but in the 21st century, I cannot believe that such things, if they existed, would not be leaked. They simply are. The government paid a lot of money to keep the hush up on the SR71. But even though, the Russians still had even the basic idea figured out in a few years. We should know if such things existed.
Sorry, but you have to explain where your energy is coming from because it all comes from somewhere. Lets say you used VPs. Those might be gravitons, that by hitting and getting energy from, you prevent from getting to their proper location. The Earth then falls out of orbit because the information for its orbit is loss.
What you describe is the same thing that a molecular engine would use. A molecular engine could ride on the energy used to transmit genetic messages between cells. But that information then is loss, and cells become uncoordinated. And die.
Hate sorry, I'm not so sure about. Nobody I know ever hated gays. I never saw anything wrong with it. But I cannot deny that by choosing one faith, I have to disagree with the life style. Even so, these two sides were always met with the feeling of disgust in my mind. I was born with that disgust. In many ways, it came about from nothing more than my own choice. That it's simply gross. Go and be gay if you want, but I still find it gross. I won't try to ban it, I won't try to stop it.
But because that sense of grossness came about by nothing but random chance, another may grow to hate what is gross by the same random chance. I can say the same with Muslims. There was a time I actually loved the religion for its culture and its ways. But as I grow older, and learn more about it, I'm different. I'm becoming more prejudiced. Not because of anything I was told, but out of choice based off what I learn about other cultures and ways of life. I no longer think all cultures and ways of life have merit. I honestly think some are just plain evil and have no worth being in existence. Surely you must agree, because you display a hatred of the CEO-type. Not that its wrong to hate corruption. Still, your hatred is from your choice. Some times these are just random acts. And under your system, well, what stops such a man?
Perhaps war today is motivated by wealth and scarcity.
But lets go back in time to the first wars
between, say, the Greek city states. Or perhaps even later on with Latinum. Rome never had anything to gain from taking over Italy. It just wanted power.
In fact a large number of wars Rome fought were for no other reason than to prove themselves as Romans and men. No needs. Just to prove they were better than some other group. It's not that war today isn't about scarcity. It's that the idea of war can be re-birthed by your society.
I mean, go back in time far enough and you will find periods of no war. War came from somewhere. It didn't just pop out of nowhere. It may have a relationship to scarcity, and many wars are for that. But sometimes people go to war for no other reason than power. For the simply glory of it. That's a problem. because your society makes all people essentially happy and blissful. Some people, believe it or not, like being miserable. And want to destroy.
I'm guessing that might be true of You, but when I place Myself in that position
Exactly. Don't base a system off your own standards. It can never work. It is impossible to change everyone.
No, not that the rich can handle being rich and the poor cannot. That very few can handle either. I kind of have a thing against inheritance for that very reason. I can handle self-inflicted poverty pretty well, and self-motivated wealth. But I have given entire semesters to try and build a person up to something more, only to see them fall into the same errors that got them in the bucket the first time around. It's not that I don't think humanity is epic win and beautiful and so much more capable. It's that I think most people simply won't do those things. Simply cannot handle a corporation, or a small household.
That most people cannot handle leading their own lives.
doesn't come from something I've been taught. This was learned.
Mainly in college.
Believe me a couple years ago I would agree with you on your views. But like I said. I spent entire semesters educating, building up, and working to make someone a self-motivated, self-disciplined, active and smart human being, only to see them fail very shortly after I left them to solve their own problems.
Worser still is seeing them get a "free" day card from the education system. knowing that they'll fall ever more in the future.
That said some people do respond. But an overwhelming majority of people simply are not capable of doing anything beyond basic works.
But I maintain that all people deserve the right to at least try and improve themselves. But I cannot agree to your claims that all humanity are beautiful creatures that will do their pert.
Sorry, sometimes God makes an ugly evil person for his own reasons that I cannot claim to know.
Most of the time he makes a poor man with nothing that I think is to work with his fellow man in a good community. I simply do not believe, however, that most of humanity is independent and capable of leading itself. I was taught the opposite. I learned the truth in the world.
No... They are FREED of slavery into the opportunities that presently exist for only the lucky few who are rich and can pursue Their bliss. And who would They be "slaving" for as They live life as today's elite live?
You don't have to be doing something to be a slave. Sometimes it's easier for evil men to do what they want if they can get the majority of the population out of their hair and on some bread and circuses. They become their own slaves. The opportunity you present is good. But without the right challenges they will not be motivated.
Allow me to explain. There was a time in my life when I was young when I had everything I wanted. Everything I ever dreamed. I did live the life of the elite. I had everything. A good meal every day, 3-4 times a day. A warm bed, etc etc. Everything. Was I happy? No. And from that day onward I lived a stoic life with the occasional feast. It's not that having everything was good, it was that having everything destroyed my humanity. That's why I tell you now that I only want to do my skill, have some food and water, and create. Because honestly, it's a happier life.
Oh, I doubt that very much. They would be too busy finding Their own bliss. Too busy partaking of all the advancements no longer suppressed for profit. Too busy enjoying Their time on this planet as Each is also accorded. Who would hate that?
See what I just wrote before I read this? idk, have you ever been unimaginably wealthy with everything? The happiest I ever have been in life was a life with little to no technology, a beautiful woman as my best friend, and working on my "bliss", as you call it. See that's why your system is partially right. People won't fight each other if they are too busy on what they love doing. But they will fight each other when it gets boring.
When they find no joy in what they are doing because they have everything they want.
I was happy not because I was working on my skills. I was happy because I didn't have constant bliss. I had to work to understand architecture in those early days. Work on my projects. Struggle, cry, and hurt to understand it. I was happiest when I was in pain. because I still had friends and people to share it with and talk.
Rethink your system. I do like struggle and hardship. I enjoy the problems. It's not that I wouldn't enjoy your world. It's that it would get boring.
Sometimes I have these things. I don't know. Hot flashes? Of the need for battle and mayhem. Not against some foe, but against a topic. Against a system. "fighting the war of architecture" some call it. The ideal adult life I want to live is literally a hilltop house with barely any technology. I cannot deny my desire for a holograph room, but that's really it. I would spend my days reading, talking, and thinking. Hell, you might learn a thing or two if you ever just decided to go and take an architectural course somewhere. We have said in close circles that architects could solve all the world's problems.
Um... It's only about 7 billion, and They don't have to "agree." Release the plenum energy extraction and They can stay as They are or live more richly. Their choice. They will find that They can afford more. And then whatever They want. And then - "affording" things will be ancient history.
But it would grow. [You said it yourself. And there you have it. Not everyone would agree. Like I said. Some people would learn how to improve it, others would not be able to run it for as long. repairmen would be needed.
inventors and engineers.
People would seek profit and security.
And God help us all when some people organize to make a government around it.
I'm going to give you one basic example of this. America, circa 1890. America was the good guys back then. They fought foreign wars to liberate, not to colonize. They used their technology to improve life, not to destroy it. Maybe a few cities were the exception, but the rich back then actually used their wealth to help others get wealthy. What happened? A bubble formed. and broke. Then another. Money became the equivalent of your free energy. It was everywhere. Anyone could have it. America was rich enough and powerful enough to throw it away and let anyone have it. So what happened? about 20 years went by where everything was just great. Then another 10 years where there was hardly a poor man. But then people mismanaged things. The bubbles grew too much, and they all broke. 1929 came. THEIR Free energy ultimately became their own undoing. And the rich took what they had to secure their riches, while the poor got poorer. Wars broke out. Evil men came. And the world hasn't been the same since.
So I want you to tell me that. How was money in the year 1925ish any different than free energy in the year 2025ish?
A Chief NASA scientist, Dennis Bushnell has came out in support of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat technology, but denies any type of nuclear fusion is taking place
Originally posted by wmd_2008
reply to post by hawkiye
Suggest you better RE READ what the NASA guy said because you are totally delusional
what he said
A Chief NASA scientist, Dennis Bushnell has came out in support of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat technology, but denies any type of nuclear fusion is taking place
So please show were he says fusion is taking place!