ABC News: Tornadoes Caused by Military? Recent Events Fuel Conspiracy Theories

"good" conspiracy enthusiasts ask tough questions

"bad" conspiracy enthusiasts jump to conclusions and accept youtube video's as proof

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What a prick, I haven't already looked at the replies but my own theosis is that at no time did this interview offer a alternative 'conspiracy view' side of the argument and was completely 1-sided. If they want to bitch and moan about people in "made-up land" how about Hollywood producers blowing up cities such as Los Angeles, New York, etc involving secret terrorist groups, or Earth being destroyed by Alien Invasions. Beyond the realms of any 'conspiracy theorist' and yet people pay to watch that crap and is advertised by these msm outlets 24/7 year in year out.

Individuals talking about the very same thing and writing books, discussing about them on internet sites are NO different than sci-fi geeks talking about the new series of Stargate or Star Trek unless a Conspiracy Theory has been proven as factual by evidential means. The msm trying to demonise us as 'crazies' are way in over their heads by slanderous comments, which in themselves are a form of criminal acts.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
"good" conspiracy enthusiasts ask tough questions

"bad" conspiracy enthusiasts jump to conclusions and accept youtube video's as proof

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And GOOD BAD trolls comes to threads with any tough questions and none conclusions.

Man i smell cover up..

Look at ABC's "logo"...
An Eye. Yes an EYE...

I dont think they have the right to call us theorist's crazy, when they are the guinea pigs and have no idea what changes are going on in our world...

Who is the more crazy? those who push the envelope on a perceived and particular covert action against a population, like Chemtrails for instance, or those who come clamouring to debunk, (we all know them) as soon as a chemtrail thread is started. The irony is, the rapid presence of these debunkers often only reinforces a thread rather than debunk, with their predictable MO. No mention then, in that ABC interview that there are some 'funny' people that hang around sites like ATS who are often vocal, but rarely post pro-conspiratorially, in this particular forum.

Originally posted by trollz
"Radicalized websites"? Is that the new term now being pushed on the public that will have us all thought of as terrorists? All I hear is "radical this, radical that", and now people who don't get their information from the MSM websites, but rather these "fringe" websites, are radicals?

There's a spectrum of beliefs and opinions which you are expected to choose from. These range from libertarian to socialist. If you go beyond these limits on this line, or you have opinions or beliefs which are unrelated to this line, you are a "radical". That's the definition of radical.

As part of this system, you are expected to believe that the facts of reality, as laid down by modern academia are absolutely true. Academia is a community of thinkers, whom have gone through at least 8 years of schooling, which ejects anybody straying to far from it's own main stream. If you build your own conception of the universe, using the tools you have to collect information, and your own ability to think, you are, by definition, insane .

What we really need to do is create a religion surrounding our beliefs. Scientology is one big conspiracy protected heavily by civil rights groups because it is a "religion", why cant we do the same? Imagine having something bad written about us and being able to sue over it. We just need to incorporate every conspiracy into our new religion and whether you believe in HAARP or chemtrails you can talk about it openly without fear of persecution (especially from the media)! So if anyone wants to get on that....

reply to post by RUSSO

It's official now. We are crazy. The mainstream media says so.

I'll walk out on the ice and predict that sites like ATS themselves will not be outlawed. But our freedom to express our concerns and ideas will be curtailed... in the name of public safety.

They will say that we are abusing our right to free speech by saying things that cause public panic and hatred of our elected officials. Our arrests will be viewed like a potential criminal being taken off the street.

We will be silenced or jailed.

Just for the record, our Constitution as already been nearly completely decommissioned. There will be no courts that we can expect honesty from... they will have already been packed with the proper judges before we arrive.

Maybe UFOs are really nothing but... soon it will be a crime to say that our government knows more than we do.

My\\

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what is it us conspericy theorist are uncovering that is making the government nervous enough to sick the MSN onus and labels us radicalist?/

Originally posted by BrianC
What we really need to do is create a religion surrounding our beliefs. Scientology is one big conspiracy protected heavily by civil rights groups because it is a "religion", why cant we do the same? Imagine having something bad written about us and being able to sue over it. We just need to incorporate every conspiracy into our new religion and whether you believe in HAARP or chemtrails you can talk about it openly without fear of persecution (especially from the media)! So if anyone wants to get on that....

That could actually work and the gov could not stop us.
LOL..future headlines..."conspiracy theorist fall into religion by the hundreds of rhousands"
The religion if ConTher..peace

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They are going to set up a false flag "domestic terrorist" event, and they dont want conspiracy theorists cluing in the mainstream that it is a set up by the economic globalists to give them an excuse to suspend our Constitution so they can make their move to a new currency, disarm us, and form the NAU.

The problem with today's so-called "news" is that the masses view them as some kind of authority. A newscaster can report a story, say about a tornado in Massachusetts, then add a final blurb at the end of the story, "The last tornado in Mass. was in 1994" or whatever, and they don't quote sources. They could be pulling a number out of their @ss because that's what they want us to believe and almost everybody watching believes it. They really have no clue that those programs are designed to get a specific message across.

I realize they can't cite sources for everything they say but it has reached the point where the MSM has irreversibly damaged their credibility. Case in point; a woman was fired from NPI for what amounted to her political bias toward the left (while working at a taxpayer-funded organization) and a major network picks her up without giving it a second thought. What that tells me is they know they are biased toward the left and they frankly don't care.

In theory, and this is only in theory, the MSM should vette out their reporters the same way Supreme Court Justices are vetted; hire only the most objective people they can find, but they don't teach objectivity in journalism school any longer; it is now a just boot camp for left wing propagandists. (Yes, I know, the right wing does it too, but most public colleges and universities lean far to the left). So, you have these propagandists bringing in their pundits to spew the message they wish to convey and everybody eats it up.

It's really too bad there aren't any televised news broadcasts that report on the news like we find on alternative Internet sites. Something coming off a satellite and carried by Dish and DirectTV and the cable channels. That might wake some people up.

/end of rant

I am of the opinion that to many "conspiracy theories" are lacking in vital real life proof.

I am not saying the theories are wrong but the overwhelming need for proof is a definite need.

Far too many people with flimsy Jibber Jabber and poor, ever so poor research.

Originally posted by testtubebaby
I am of the opinion that to many "conspiracy theories" are lacking in vital real life proof.

I am not saying the theories are wrong but the overwhelming need for proof is a definite need.

Far too many people with flimsy Jibber Jabber and poor, ever so poor research.

And yet when we ASK for "real life proof" as in the case of the alleged killing of Osama bin Drama, we are called nuts for asking for it.

Originally posted by Vanishr
And so, it begins.
files.abovetopsecret.com...

yup

you just nailed it right on the head!

~anyone looking to get off the ride, exit left. the fearless, curious and the brave...strap on your seatbelts!~

The funny thing is that as more and more mainstream media venues lose subscribers, they will depend upon people with a "distrust" of mainstream media to bail them out. Laughing at, ridiculing and patronizing your viewers is not a really good way to grow business.

Originally posted by BrianC
What we really need to do is create a religion surrounding our beliefs. Scientology is one big conspiracy protected heavily by civil rights groups because it is a "religion", why cant we do the same? Imagine having something bad written about us and being able to sue over it. We just need to incorporate every conspiracy into our new religion and whether you believe in HAARP or chemtrails you can talk about it openly without fear of persecution (especially from the media)! So if anyone wants to get on that....

HAHA! Love it. Let's play around with this, lets see.

ATSism, ATSolic, ATSal
Thou shalt deny ignorance
We believe in and give praise to the holy host Skeptic Overload and the holy ATS site.

So what if pot is our holy communion...We tithe our time to contribute to this holy host.

Howz that for a start?

reply to post by Thinair1

Look at ABC's "logo"...

Isn't CBS the network with the eye logo?

MSM is a joke. This guy and his little book are a joke as well. There is nothing objective about MSM anymore, reporters are given their assignments and told what stance to take. How is that considered real news. It is ALL propaganda. The sad thing is most people believe the crap msm feeds them, and there is nothing we can say to convince them that they are constantly being lied to by the networks. We are "crazy conspiracy theorists" after all.



s&f to the op and many stars to those who contributed.

reply to post by RUSSO


I've said before that they were starting to do this.
The tactic they are using is brilliant yet very simple.
Call attention to it.
They are taking the offense now instead of the defense.
They are beating us to the punch so to speak.
Ridicule!!!
Whenever shady things are afoot, they immediately call attention to the conspiracy angle and
ridicule it so that the masses know what they are supposed to think and what NOT to think, lest YOU wind up being the subject of ridicule yourself.

People are stupid animals.
NOT ALL! But as a whole we are dumb animals who deserve what we are getting right now.
It WILL stop when we have had enough, so that is something to look forward to.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by lbndhr

 

They are going to set up a false flag "domestic terrorist" event, and they dont want conspiracy theorists cluing in the mainstream that it is a set up by the economic globalists to give them an excuse to suspend our Constitution so they can make their move to a new currency, disarm us, and form the NAU.

You raise a good point there, since it brings conspiracy into the realm of prediction, another forum, one of which did cause chaos on 11th May 2011 in Italy when many people stayed off work in fear of an earthquake, and could be construed as internet fear-mongering. The predictor, Bendandi had been dead for some time, but In fact, there was an earthquake, but in Spain. Bendandi went against the grain in saying that it is possible to predict earthquakes, based on his ideas of interaction among the planets in the solar system and the rest. Now, the 2009 italian earthquake was predicted in 2009 by scientist, Giampaolo Giuliani, (I don't know the basis for that) and officials say he was ultimately wrong by location, (more info needed on my part) however it was the internet that carried the blame for the May 11th panic.
Just to clarify, I'm adding this link from May 10th Yahoo, New Zealand. It's understandable in one way, but also ridiculous in another,

nz.news.yahoo.com...