posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 06:45 AM
Jesus, I need to repost my old comment from a few pages back. This is getting out of hand.
Again: the mere fact of something being a belief (whether it be a small, singular, common belief such as 'there is reincarnation', i.e. no other
variant, just the concept of coming back in another body..., or a larger belief such as your (version of the) Bible, which spans so many variations
and interpretations across the world), inversely renders it non-factual until otherwise proven as ...justifiably...true...knowledge (Plato's not too
shabby definition of a fact).
As I have said before also, I do not poo-poo the bible; no, I am more intelligent than to be like that and say "It's a load of nonsense".
Unfortunately, you take the book of non-verifiable stories (which have a factual, proveable, documented history of being modified, as well as a
factual, proveable, documented history of having stories added and removed through time) as 'fact' (despite rather unintelligently proposing that it
is, in fact, to believe or not to believe; whereas a fact cannot give the option of belief since it is justifiably true knowledge thus no option of
belief exists. Do you 'believe' that water boils at 100 degrees? You can believe all you like, but it demonstratably certainly does). I, on the
other hand, and with a growing number of World citizens (fact: dropping church numbers in Europe (source for the UK: www.guardian.co.uk... for
example, but others available with quick research), would prefer to make our life decisions not on fairytales (as the Bible currently stands), but on
positive, kind acts towards others and ourselves.
That's the fact and logic out the way. Now for an utterly worthless and unimportant opinion.
I feel content that people have an innate sense of doing good. I also subscribe to the notion that there is perhaps a devine 'something', even if it
does not exist as an entity or alien race, such as nature. I adore watching thunderstorms and how the lightning blasts from the sky causing thunder to
rumble my pants off. I love this awesome display of 'natural' power. It makes me feel that I am part of something wonderfully harmonious of panet
If people choose to follow a (unverified, as I have demonstrated in many responses including this) book, then of course I have nothing against it. I
worry that they lack the observational logic because it leads them to false conclusions; this, in fact, irritates me more than worries me. It only
worries me for their own safety to be honest (look at Harold Campin followers; a college tuition savings out the window, family break-ups, girl in
Russia commiting suicide to save witnessing the horrors), but 'one is but a product of their decisions' so they will do themselves harm if they
'believe' in a 'belief system' rather than living a good, positive live based on facts.
An example is when I did my flight test for my commercial pilot's license. The weather was good, but my very religious extended family (grandparents
brother's family, not my immediate family) said grace at the table and thanked God for the good weather and the fact I had passed! I was genuinely
miffed at this. Could they not understand that, in the week leading up to this day, the weather was terrible and about 10 others were unable to carry
out their flight test!?!? Did God not like them? I mean, it's so incredibly ignorant that it begs belief (teehee). They also seemed to forget that
I, factually, studied for many hours every day to even do the test (and pass with the highest mark in the clubs history, I'd like to gloatingly add).
But it was me, not God, and the weather was a high pressure system over the Pacific bringing good weather for me, and not the cold, cloudy weather
from the North that 'He' decided to drop on the others (including one who was unable to leave for his wife's baby due to bad weather - what a nice
God he is).
Also are those who thank God for successful operations, forgetting that the life-saving surgeon has studied at least 15 years of medicine and surgical
procedure and most likely has 10 years experience or more, and saved the life through skill, excellence and sheer precision; I admire them all very
much. But wait, it's God! An absolute disgrace, an utter in-you-face insult to the surgeon and his team. I can't imagine how that would make me feel
if I were a surgeon.
Close the book, open your eyes, study facts, be a good person and love those around you, realising that, as someone else said, more people have died
in negative circumstances in the name of/due to religion that anybody has died from 'normal' reasons...
... and THEN the world will be a better, more informed place to live.
Until then, in the words of Joni Mitchell: Stop this world, let me off.