OBEY Clothing Website - Pentagram Icon

Hey guys,

I'm not a fan of this brand. I got curious because of the weird political, pseudo-occult imagery they use on their shirts. I checked out the website at obeyclothing.com and the icon on my browser's address bar showed a pentagram, not just a star, but a full on pentagram (maybe even baphomet). Weird.

Please visit their site ASAP

Pentagrams are not uncommon at all. This isn't anything to worry about, it's just a clothing company.

Seriously.

There is a lot of symbology used in modrn culture today. It seems to be the in thing. I would not read too much into it.

Oh because I thought this thread was just a cleverly disguised plug for that clothing site...silly me.So yea, pentagram...neat. Too bad there are no zombies, fallen angels or aliens on the clothes, then I might have bought something. That's actually called a favicon by the way.. in case you wanted a little useless info..

Here's another site that has nothing to do with me or my name..aside from them being the same but the message is outright.. www.nephalimclothing.com...

Originally posted by btyoung21
I'm not a fan of this brand.

Please visit their site ASAP

Mission Accomplished!!!!

Not only did this advertising gimmick cause you to pay closer attention, but now you are attempting to send others to the website, of a brand, that you do not like.

Does anybody know the definition if 'irony'????

Its Shepard Faireys he's an artist.
Artist do weird things get over it.

well you use far more sinister symbols in your B.O.P.E. avatar.

the only sinister thing about a pentagram is that it both represents us humans(a body and five limbs) and the orbital interaction between the earth and lucifer, and by lucifer i mean venus.

symbols have the power one gives them, look at them in a positive way, and do not let yourself have a negative perspective just because its the norm.

think about that

the pentagram, the swastika, the eye of providence

all positive symbols and concepts that now have a twisted meaning.
if you start to wonder why, you may be on the right track.


dont feed the negative power that wants you to see those symbols as negative

Originally posted by AnotherYOU
well you use far more sinister symbols in your B.O.P.E. avatar.

I didn't even notice that. I don't know what that image is supposed to represent, and I really don't care, but I definitely agree with this statement of yours.

On 1 side, we have a 4 pistols, and a skull with a knife jammed straight down though the top of it.

On the other side, we have a harmless star, that just wanted to be different.

I'm putting this forward because this clothing company has some BLATANT nwo-type designs. Like heads of state with OBEY on the tagline. We all know subliminal messaging and sorts, but this is the reverse of it. Most who wear obey, sad to say, are youths. Its as if its COOL to obey TPTB, then you see celebs wearing their caps. It reeks of brainwashing. If subliminal media dont work, hey lets just put weird faces on shirts and put OBEY.

BTW keep ON TOPIC please, I watched TROPA DE ELITE and it was a bad-ass movie, hence the BOPE insignia. I know its a corrupt, brutal and sometimes criminal institution but Im just paying homage to the MOVIE.

This is my 2 cents, feel free to add yours.

And yeah, nephalim isnt even close to getting mainstream, so I dont see how it can influence even a degree of society.

Originally posted by btyoung21
Hey guys,

I'm not a fan of this brand. I got curious because of the weird political, pseudo-occult imagery they use on their shirts.

Yay, their Marketing team is on a winner!

*hint* - that's what they wanted you know.

The OBEY is supposed to be Ironic
Like I said he is an Artist

Where is the link to the pentagram? I just saw regular clothes... good attempt to the new viral advertisement.

Originally posted by BrokenCircles

Originally posted by btyoung21
I'm not a fan of this brand.

Please visit their site ASAP

Mission Accomplished!!!!

Not only did this advertising gimmick cause you to pay closer attention, but now you are attempting to send others to the website, of a brand, that you do not like.

Does anybody know the definition if 'irony'????

Lmao, bloody hell, I just posted the same sentiment.



You keep doing that !!! It's good to know my insanity might actually not be affecting me completely. Either that, or you're worse than I am...

So you guys honestly think this brand is purely a product of someone's artistic imaginings? I think otherwise. Its true that OBEY started off as a small company run by the artist (stated above), but since then, it has grown by leaps and bounds. And now its a big company catering to the mainstream, not the artistic. Most teens buy this # cuz Justin Bieber wore it, really, they dont care about the artwork. Personally, I wouldnt fork out 20-40 USD for a tshirt with weird faces on it. Anyway, heres a video from youtube, it comes from a series 'Hidden in Plain Sight'. Enjoy.

www.youtube.com...

And with the ASAP. I think you guys tend to over analyze the text. Its nitpicking the post. I put ASAP in the case they might change the pentagram icon into something 'plainer'. And you lose out the chance to see it.


ARSENIS: Look at your address bar the penta should be there, and no, Im not getting paid for this nor work for OBEY. I think their clothing is tacky.

Originally posted by btyoung21
So you guys honestly think this brand is purely a product of someone's artistic imaginings? I think otherwise. Its true that OBEY started off as a small company run by the artist (stated above), but since then, it has grown by leaps and bounds. And now its a big company catering to the mainstream, not the artistic. Most teens buy this # cuz Justin Bieber wore it, really, they dont care about the artwork. Personally, I wouldnt fork out 20-40 USD for a tshirt with weird faces on it. Anyway, heres a video from youtube, it comes from a series 'Hidden in Plain Sight'. Enjoy.

www.youtube.com...

And with the ASAP. I think you guys tend to over analyze the text. Its nitpicking the post. I put ASAP in the case they might change the pentagram icon into something 'plainer'. And you lose out the chance to see it.

edit on 1-6-2011 by btyoung21 because: (no reason given)

ARSENIS: Look at your address bar the penta should be there, and no, Im not getting paid for this nor work for OBEY. I think their clothing is tacky.

edit on 1-6-2011 by btyoung21 because: (no reason given)

The pentagram, as was pointed out, is a favicon. It's what a website can use in the base of their web server to serve an address bar icon. It's an ADDRESS BAR ICON. ATS has one. It says ATS.

Most websites have them.

Nothing nefarious about a website that is cashing in on schock value marketing, using NWO or other conspiracy format themed clothing, and calling itself OBEY.

Unless you are missing the point, there was a market for this. They rose to the occasion. Not only do they get the hip kids who think it's cool like gaga to be NWO (it was dressing up like a ninja in my day... so long ago) but they also get the 'ZOMG' people who think this is some 'hidden in plain sight' operation. Taking over the world one t-shirt at a time.

If you have a product, and every avenue of front line marketing has been taken by every other product similar to yours, and you don't want to compete with 'emo' 'goth' 'metal' 'hippy' 'socialist' 'communist' 'anarchist' 'religios' or any other saturated market -

GO NWO.

and it worked.

Hell I could start a t-shirt company, call it ChemShirts for Truth, and make a mint.

I'm just too stupid to come up with ideas like that.

Originally posted by btyoung21
So you guys honestly think this brand is purely a product of someone's artistic imaginings?

Yes. In fact, the author has written on this very topic:

The Giant campaign simply pokes fun at the process by teasing the consumer with propaganda for a product which is merely more propaganda for the campaign; very reflexive,.. the propaganda and the product are the same. The ultimate success of giant is commercial embrace because this demonstrates that the unaware consumer, as opposed to the hipster in on the joke, has been subversively indoctrinated. I’m trying to achieve as large scale a coup as possible with an absurd icon that should never have made it this far. Only if the campaign reaches a level of visibility and interaction that exceeds the underground “cool” ceiling will it have a chance to make a profound statement about the societal tendency to jump on the bandwagon. The dialogue the project can start about the process of imagery absorption is the most important aspect; this dialogue is most meaningful if the giant campaign becomes pervasive enough to become a trend psychology driven feeding frenzy like some silly crap such as the Rubik’s cube or the Spice Girls.
Obey Commerce

He's been using Andre in a star as an icon since at least 1997, as seen in this poster:

reply to post by JoshNorton


When I went to School in Richmond
This guy was Making Waves in the Street art Scene with his Slogan "Refuse to Be Smart"


DayByDAY is big in Richmond too
www.livedaybyday.com...

I went to art school so these type of things are commonplace to me I get that artist are trying to be contriversial by embracing controversial symbols.

I think a lot of there stuff is aimed at people who don't get irony.

I mean this art magazine use to have adds for OBEY on every other page
Juxtapoz Magazine
www.juxtapoz.com...