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Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by slayerfan
I was an accident, but my parents were married. So Even though they didn't plan on me right then, they knew the risks and were prepared to act accordingly.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Most of the women that I know who are fully independent, would not even CONSIDER taking money from a man that did not want to be a part of the children's lives.
Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by CaDreamer
This is a sexist tirade from the start. You don't know that women pay child support too? That there are single fathers? Or does this system only matter if it is broken whey you have to pay?
You were trawling for a sexist fight from the get-go, right from the title.
I did not misconstrue. The same men have made similar remarks in other threads. I merely pointing out the steaming pile of dog poop it is sitting in the room with all of you.
I'm happy for you to back away from it. Lead the way Dreamer. Lead the way.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
But her hijacking this thread to spout a venomous "feminist" agenda is actually quite revealing as to the nature of what all decent parents are facing when trying to navigate this maze of injustice and insidious social engineering.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Most of the women that I know who are fully independent, would not even CONSIDER taking money from a man that did not want to be a part of the children's lives.
Do you read what you post?
I don't know one woman who doesn't think she deserves child support from the father. However - - I know many who get by without it - - because the man doesn't pay it.
Originally posted by Aeons
Where have I addressed women's rights? Exactly?
You don't like losing this debate. My points are on topic (with the exception of my concern about the group home) and directly address the anti-woman, anti-child sentiment of some of the male posters.
That I do so effectively doesn't make me a troll.
Interestingly, in losing of course the worst of you band together to "fight" even if it means that what you are supporting is something that if you ever took a second to look at it with eyes of a father who might have someone say and think these things about your daughter one day, you'd be horrified.
Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by CaDreamer
This is a sexist tirade from the start. You don't know that women pay child support too? That there are single fathers? Or does this system only matter if it is broken whey you have to pay?
You were trawling for a sexist fight from the get-go, right from the title.
I did not misconstrue. The same men have made similar remarks in other threads. I merely pointing out the steaming pile of dog poop it is sitting in the room with all of you.
I'm happy for you to back away from it. Lead the way Dreamer. Lead the way.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
But her hijacking this thread to spout a venomous "feminist" agenda is actually quite revealing as to the nature of what all decent parents are facing when trying to navigate this maze of injustice and insidious social engineering.
What a truly delusional statement.
If you are a father - - you are at least 50% responsible until that child reaches 18.
No excuses.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Most of the women that I know who are fully independent, would not even CONSIDER taking money from a man that did not want to be a part of the children's lives.
Do you read what you post?
I don't know one woman who doesn't think she deserves child support from the father. However - - I know many who get by without it - - because the man doesn't pay it.
My cousin is a high power DC attorney. She actually helps pay her ex-husbands bills, and he cheated on her. He doesn't have any custody either, but he is not barred at all either. So, she helps him maintain his apartment so that the kids can visit there whenever they want. Several states apart though, so I guess the way she sees it, is that she is paying for a vacation home for her kids and paying her ex to be the maintenance man. Anyway, just an example there. But yes, I know many woman who refuse support from the father.
My own lady has signed a contract that she will never sue me for support should she ever get pregnant. But in return, I have promised to be fully accessible for life to any such child, for fatherly duties outside of financial responsibility. The contract is relatively detailed, but even our own lawyers don't know that it would stand up in court. It is something we have put a lot of thought into though.
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by Aeons
And you only clapped about it, and never challenged it. Just like all the other "Men" on this thread. I am disappointed. But I understand that many good men would avoid this thread, and therefore they won't see you all let this pass uncontested and call you on it.
Aeons.........
Really, you have lumped ALL men together,with posts like this. Do you even know how hard it is for a "MAN" to get his kids in a court proceeding? Do you "know" what kind of hoops it takes? Do you "know" the percentage? I am a good man,that wont back down for the sake of my children,or even yours. Your posts are heavily one-sided,trying desperately to provoke "men" into some sort of p!$$ing contest. You are NOT the savior of women,and you actually have made most of the men,who go through the battle of paying child-support,even angrier.Obviously,this is what you wanted. You know the system is broken,but you continue to bait those with feminist dogma.Shame on you. I dont know any child-killing man,typing away,from his cozy confine of a correction facility, willing to argue your baseless dogma,that you put out as facts.The men here are looking for answers.Either give some,that are helpful,and not critical,or stop posting please.Thank you.
Originally posted by slayerfan
reply to post by CobraCommander
it can go both ways thow, my wife has a kid and I allways told her to give his dad joint custady no child suport wicth has been the case for years and now he takes my step son 1 maybe 2 nights a month maybe give here 20 bucks a month, I would feel like the bigest loser doing that as i had 3 kids being single and had joint custady i found my own babysitters so i could go to work evry day on top of paying child suport but i still tell her not to go to the freind of the court as hard as that is as we could really use the money that place is just rong.
Originally posted by Aeons
Where have I addressed women's rights? Exactly?
You don't like losing this debate. My points are on topic (with the exception of my concern about the group home) and directly address the anti-woman, anti-child sentiment of some of the male posters.
That I do so effectively doesn't make me a troll.
Interestingly, in losing of course the worst of you band together to "fight" even if it means that what you are supporting is something that if you ever took a second to look at it with eyes of a father who might have someone say and think these things about your daughter one day, you'd be horrified.