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Originally posted by CobraCommander
Half of the child's food, clothing, medical, and daycare should be covered. That's about it. It is no additional cost for a woman to have the heat on her apartment no matter how many kids are in there with her. It is no additional cost for a mother to let the kid watch the television. It is not the man's responsibility to support YOUR household.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by CobraCommander
This kind of stuff is why I will never ever ever hold a joint account, credit cards etc. I don't believe in the credit scam anymore, won't get sucked in again. And there is no possible way I am going to be the only one working in a relationship. Not gonna happen.
I held a joint checking account with one of my exes, and a single joint $500 credit card. Wasn't really a problem. The real problem came from the fact that she came into the relationship with less credit than me and some bad marks on her credit too. So, I wound up being suckered into over-extending myself as poverty set in on both of us. Once my cards were maxed out, she was gone. Went back to live with her mother.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
Mate....I'm not ignorant to whats going on in the USA and the amount of mortgagee sales. Don't give me that rubbish you played no hand in signing that bank loan for the house or using that credit card and that you did'nt want that second child to your wife. BS !
Originally posted by queenofsheba
reply to post by ldyserenity
Of course Child Support Enforcement enforces child support...it's to keep the tax payer's money down. When a woman goes on public assistance, Child Support gets an immediate referral to collect so that welfare monies aren't used to support these kids. And why not? When the obligee has a job there's no reason the state should have to pick up the bill. No? When a woman separates from the father of her children there is an obligation on behalf of the father to support his kids. Questions asked are does he have existing medical coverage that would cover his kid's health care? Why should Medicaid pay for that if the the parent has health insurance? The only way the noncustodial parent gets out of paying child support is if he's hiding, or is on disability or is a threat (domestic violence) issue. Why a man who is a multimillionaire could get out of paying child support is beyond me.
And when a man has children with a woman and opts out of that relationship (whether she is a fat *ss or not) and perhaps has not worked in years, is beside the point. It's about the children...why wouldn't a parent want to help out their kids? That is the question. It's overhead costs such as electrical bills, water, clothing, food and extra-curriculars that all add up....it's the little things.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
Half of the food, clothing, medical and daycare? Is that all? Are you bloody serious??? And THIS is why we have a problem with you non-custodial parents. THAT DOES'NT COVER HALF OF THE COSTS OF A CHILD from day to day! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!edit on 2-6-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by Teeky
.I have 3 kids under the age of 7. My x husband gets the kids whenever he chooses maybe a weekend out of the month. It's difficult. Most men know children are annoying and that's why they don't want full custody. Don't get me wrong I love my kids and wouldn't trade them for anything, but having my name called 50 times a day followed by screaming melt downs and tantrums can be stressful.
Plus I know men enjoy their freedom to roam, just imagine having a baby strapped to your back 24/7...
It was YOUR choice to have those kids. You knew what being a mother meant, and no doubt knew the sort of man your husband was after the first one. Not a real "hands on" sort of Dad. A lot of men out there would prefer to be much more involved in their kid's lives, but can't because it interferes with a woman's future prospects. On the other hand, it's no shame for him to not really be a hands-on sort of father either, if that's just the sort of man he is.
But since you were married, I see it as his obligation to pay to support those children.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CobraCommander
Half of the food, clothing, medical and daycare? Is that all? Are you bloody serious??? And THIS is why we have a problem with you non-custodial parents. THAT DOES'NT COVER HALF OF THE COSTS OF A CHILD from day to day! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!edit on 2-6-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by stargate73
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Half of the child's food, clothing, medical, and daycare should be covered. That's about it. It is no additional cost for a woman to have the heat on her apartment no matter how many kids are in there with her. It is no additional cost for a mother to let the kid watch the television. It is not the man's responsibility to support YOUR household.
I totally agree with you on this. I am a custodial parent and mother. If not for my kids I would still need to provide housing, heat, electricity, etc. My ex is not responsible for these cost I am. The money a non custodial parent sends should be used for the actual needs of the child not what the custodial parent would be paying for if they had no children.
Originally posted by eLPresidente
I don't believe we should be blaming the government for this. Remember who ROOTED the situation of divorce, child abandonment, etc... The PEOPLE/PARENTS that abused common decency and caused the government to step in and enforce parents to support their ex-spouse.
It is in human nature to seek to abuse a system when it is already working for them.
Government is bad, but people are even worse, our species is a disgrace, a disease.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Let me just jump in here and point out the 800-pound gorilla in the room.
While we bicker amongst ourselves, man pitted against women, the sad fact of the matter is we are all fighting over scraps. For the most part anyway. Someone with a basic high school education cannot even support themselves much less a child. Which then sets the state for what we are seeing today among so many women. They have a child because she knows darn well society will not let her live in the streets if she has a kid. The kid becomes her security blanket, whether it's some random man paying her bills (for the kid's sake supposedly) or the taxpayer.
The system has played us all, so easily, to make this a man vs. women issue. And sadly, it is the women who have fallen for the biggest part of the sham under the guise of feminism.
But at the end of the day, if women could earn a decent living, they would not be resorting to motherhood for profit. And if men were being paid an honest wage, they could actually afford to pay the support without living in abject poverty themselves.
Some food for thought here from my favorite blogger:
US most overworked nation in developed world
Feminism created to destablize society
JP Morgan controls foodstamps, not gov't
Poverty: Play the game now!
Poverty USA
Originally posted by CaDreamer
My children are nearly fully reached adulthood. my battle is nearing the end i give this advice out of my personal dealings with the system. My kids get it, they struggled too, but because mom was wasteful and threw parties every week for years, not an exaggeration. my kids are now very close to me because they see now that they didn't see me as much as they wanted but i had the same problem there was no time left in the day to be there and keep myself from jail as well .
Originally posted by WordPlayJAy
Condoms, unless you are ready to have a child.
Originally posted by Teeky
What do you me my choice?! He and I decided together to have children. He was a hands on Dad when were married but as soon as we broke up being with the kids has not been his top priority. As a matter of fact he's more concerned with trying to be with me, or wanting me to have more babies so I can't leave him.
Originally posted by Teeky
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by Teeky
.I have 3 kids under the age of 7. My x husband gets the kids whenever he chooses maybe a weekend out of the month. It's difficult. Most men know children are annoying and that's why they don't want full custody. Don't get me wrong I love my kids and wouldn't trade them for anything, but having my name called 50 times a day followed by screaming melt downs and tantrums can be stressful.
Plus I know men enjoy their freedom to roam, just imagine having a baby strapped to your back 24/7...
It was YOUR choice to have those kids. You knew what being a mother meant, and no doubt knew the sort of man your husband was after the first one. Not a real "hands on" sort of Dad. A lot of men out there would prefer to be much more involved in their kid's lives, but can't because it interferes with a woman's future prospects. On the other hand, it's no shame for him to not really be a hands-on sort of father either, if that's just the sort of man he is.
But since you were married, I see it as his obligation to pay to support those children.
What do you me my choice?! He and I decided together to have children. He was a hands on Dad when were married but as soon as we broke up being with the kids has not been his top priority. As a matter of fact he's more concerned with trying to be with me, or wanting me to have more babies so I can't leave him.