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Originally posted by Aeons
There are ways to reform or make a system which is fair, and reasonable.
There are some aspects of some child support systems which have controls which are not the best.
Did women make it this way? Think about that. Because the answer is obviously no. Most government reps are males. Their department heads are males. The people passing the laws, statutes, regs, are generally males.
One thing remains consistent though. Many people in the position to make these laws, and make the bureaucracy around them have an agenda. Often many of them, left, right, center, have strong opinions about families.
Interestingly, in governments where there are more females in governmental rep positions in almost equal numbers, the systems for these are actually more FAIR. Mull that.
Let me talk about a seeming unrelated topic for a moment. Many people with government powers do not support trying to eradicate sexually transmitted diseases. Put aside your beliefs about vaccines for a moment, and think about the arguments put out about why not to inoculate for genital warts (HPV vaccine). Most of those arguments were from lobby groups, and government reps who WANT people to be afraid of getting STDs so that they won't screw around.
Those people with governmental authority, for religious reasons usually, WANT you to be punished for not engaging in sex and relationships in a way they consider to be optimal. So they want you to see people be punished for doing so.
Well many of the people in government are men, and they know that you value your wallet. They WANT you to know that if you decide to skip out on being in a family unit after having children, that they WANT you to feel it. They want you to tell others about it. They want you to scare the crap out of other guys with your horror stories.
They don't want to reform those things that aren't right....not because your ex is such a meaney.... but because they want guys to stay with their babies Momma. They BELIEVE with all their hearts that this is the best thing.
Just the same way they want people to die of HPV genital wart induced cancer for having sex.
This is a regressive punishment. It is being done due to the religious beliefs of a large sub-set of the people making the regulations.
Blaming your ex-wife is WAY easier and more satisfying than looking at what is actually happening, and thinking about if your ex-wife is actually the people who put these laws and regs in place to begin with.edit on 2011/6/1 by Aeons because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by g146541
Don't fabricate information. Statistics say that men usually end up better financially then women after a divorce.
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Does anyone see a prob with a simple CHILDSUPPORT CARD. Which tracks all items, mom and dad can see how money is spent if overages are occuring showing signs of money being spent elsewhere. As it is kinda big brotherish the CARD is it a good idea and if not why not.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by TKDRL
I fully agree.....when my ex started whining I did exactly that!
I showed him all my bills for rent, utilities (water, electricity, gas, phone), food, clothing, education, sports, dental, medical. Told him to pay 50% and I'll be happy. Never heard from him since. That was 7 years ago.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Does anyone see a prob with a simple CHILDSUPPORT CARD. Which tracks all items, mom and dad can see how money is spent if overages are occuring showing signs of money being spent elsewhere. As it is kinda big brotherish the CARD is it a good idea and if not why not.
Child Support Cards?!?!?! When did all of this happen?
Nice!
About damn time!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SusyQ30
Spot on!
The fact is, a majority of men do not like paying child support. Thats it in a nut shell!
If you don't pay child support or you pay enough to insult the mother of your children, then you should not expect to have any say in your child's life.
Originally posted by HomerinNC
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by TKDRL
I fully agree.....when my ex started whining I did exactly that!
I showed him all my bills for rent, utilities (water, electricity, gas, phone), food, clothing, education, sports, dental, medical. Told him to pay 50% and I'll be happy. Never heard from him since. That was 7 years ago.
The child support shouldnt go to paying your rent or your utilities. you would have those things to pay if you had a kid or not. The ONLY things it should go for is things for that specific kid ie, clothes, med/dental, and you should split the extracurricular activities