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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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The so called loving and forgiving Christians of Brisbane, Australia (Well, a group which aught to represent them) have dug out their biggotry, dusted off their hatred, and fired a homophobic voley into the crowd.


The safe-sex ad that is too hot for Brisbane’s streets. Adshel gives into homophobic pressure.



ADSHEL, the company that provides advertising in bus shelters around Brisbane, has given in to pressure from the Australian Christian Lobby (ACL) and removed a safe sex campaign featuring a gay male couple.


So an advertising campeign designed to promote safe sex has been pulled! Why?

In my opinion there are two reasons: The Christian lobby does not want people to have sefe sex, the want people to have NO sex at all. Unless they are marrried and trying to have children, in which case that will just - JUST - be tollerated. The Christian Lobby does not want anything to do with homosexuality to be anywhere in the public eye. ESPECIALLY when in conjunction with a conversation about sex, safe or otherwise.

Isn't it time in the 21st Century that we stood up against the biggots, the haters in our society? Isn't it time we told these Christian hate mongers that there views are no longer welocomed, nor of any value at all to the modern world?

Is a picture of two men holding habnds really that disgusting thatit can't be shown on our streets?




posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure the only people that complain about this are people who look out for stuff to whinge about. If it's such an issue to the gay community they could lobby for the ad to be put back.


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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Dear Shamatt,

The bigotry is in you also. Why do you assume this group speaks for all Christians, they surely do not speak for me and I am a Christian. You pick some moronic group and then try and pin them on me and other Christians. Did Stalin speak for you? He was an atheist. The Pope doesn't speak for me either not idiots like Jim Jones. There are plenty of idiots to go around, all groups have them. Your solution is to to insult all, that is going to be effective. People like this only will here other Christians and your attitude does not make us want to talk to them about their mistakes; but, then you are like them.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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I'm with the OP on this. So-called "Christian" bigotry is a far worse problem than homosexuality. I have no problem naming which one I find less tolerable....



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Divide and conquer!

In a very old war for souls, the best vehicle for battle is often one that is disguised as the righteous carriage of God.

Be silent Christians, and watch as your faith is destroyed by those who exploit your faith.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:29 PM
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Okay maybe there was a bit of an over reaction by the christian group but in the picture it says more then holding hands.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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It's ok they have small brains one day they will be rooted out of this race.


Maybe then we will see worthwhile scientific advances much quicker.


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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Most Christians are not Homophobic. As a matter of fact, most feel that its none of their business, but it is defined in the Bible as a sin the same as adultery. The Homosexual lobby likes to sling that term around against anyone who does not support homosexuality, because of the negative connotations surrounding it. However, the fact is that anything containing “phobia” is by definition describing a “fear”, and Christians do not necessarily fear homosexuals. They simply believe that according to the Word of God, ANY sexual activity outside of wedlock is a sin. True Christians are the first to recognize that none of us are without sin, all sin is equal in the eyes of God, and all sin can be forgiven.

You want to worry about a religion that actually fears, and puts people to death over homosexuality, then maybe you should be more concerned about Islam then Christians. At the current rate Muslims will be the majority in many countries within the next 50 years. So what is going to happen when they are the voting in all their laws?

Personally, I disagree with all hate speech, including hate speech against any religion, as they have protection under the law.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


edit on 5/31/2011 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
Divide and conquer!

In a very old war for souls, the best vehicle for battle is often one that is disguised as the righteous carriage of God.

Be silent Christians, and watch as your faith is destroyed by those who exploit your faith.



Needs to be quoted again for TRUTH.

Not all xtians are loonies.. but by calling every christ-eater your "brother" or "sister" sure lumps you in with them. Defending the loonies because they can quote some scripture and "talk the talk" make YOU one of THEM. The self-label of "christian" is just not what it was... truth. Like most religions.. xtians have their radicals, regardless of the denials, and it seems the radicals are taking over the whole thing. Then the anti christians are just as ignorant in claiming ALL christians are these crazy christ eaters. Hypocrisy is the new normal I guess. Lets just all label eachother, place labels on ourselves, and divide everything and everyone. Yee HAW!



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:43 PM
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I don't think that the protest has anything to do with homosexuality. We have a similar controversy here in Dallas.



the billboard with the message "Stop Vegetable Abuse" comes from the owners of shops that sell lingerie and adult novelties.

www.nbcdfw.com...


Just for kicks you should check out the image of the billboard. I drive past this several times a week. It's sort of funny. People are not protesting this because they have vegetable-phobia or sex-toy phobia. They just think that the subject doesn't belong on a billboard. Hatred and fear have nothing to do with either scenario. Just a set of morals that people adhere to.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
Divide and conquer!

In a very old war for souls, the best vehicle for battle is often one that is disguised as the righteous carriage of God.

Be silent Christians, and watch as your faith is destroyed by those who exploit your faith.



Dear Fractured Facade,

You spoke well. I am not silent to other Christians and believe we do need to get our house in order. There was too little condemnation of Camping and other false teachers by the believers. Part of my point was to say that we are not all the same and that it is unfair to use the loonies to define us or them. Be well.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Christians do not hate homosexuals. Christians equate homosexual acts in the same way they would adultery, fornication, bestiality, child infant sex, violent rape, sex with a dead person, etc. So why is that hate, please explain.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Its not just Christians that would find commercial advertising and promotion of gays offensive. Different religions or cultures as well as moral values passed down and individual insecurities all result in differing degrees of tolerance with regards to open gayness.

Queensland especially rural Queensland has a very low tolerance for gays in general, im sure you would get abused or worse if you walked down the street holding hands with your male partner. Excluding parts of Brisbane and Gold Coast.

There is a time and a place for everything and now and Queensland is not it. Despite its name.

As unacceptable as some may find this thats just the way it is. There are much worse places to be a gay male in Australia, mainly rural areas about 90%of the country, this is why gay males stay in the cities.

If you walked around holding hands with your boyfriend around these parts you would get cleaned up by a bull bar.
I find it offensive that you tar all christians with one brusht, a little hypocrytical dont you think?
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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Nicely said Defcon5.
I've noticed (especially on ATS) that many people will jump to attack Christianity for the littlest of things. All the time they claim it's "all religion" they're against. Not once have I seen them attack Judaism or any other "western" religion. (Except for Islam, but that's not western... yet.) It's almost like they have something personal against Christianity but hide behind the "All religion is bad!" slogan.


But you raise a valid point regarding Islam. If people think Christianity is bad for whining, wait til the hangings and be-heading's start!



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Fromabove
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Christians do not hate homosexuals. Christians equate homosexual acts in the same way they would adultery, fornication, bestiality, child infant sex, violent rape, sex with a dead person, etc. So why is that hate, please explain.


Simple.

Anyone who rapes a child, or violently raped any person for that metter is a hatefull figure, someone whom we would quite rightly want to lock away.

The act of love between two people, married or not, homosexual or hetro, can never be catagorised as the same.

And yet you make the two as bad as each other? A homosexual is as bad as a child rapist? And you can't see that is a hetfull thing to say????



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear Shamatt,

The bigotry is in you also. Why do you assume this group speaks for all Christians, they surely do not speak for me and I am a Christian. You pick some moronic group and then try and pin them on me and other Christians. Did Stalin speak for you? He was an atheist. The Pope doesn't speak for me either not idiots like Jim Jones. There are plenty of idiots to go around, all groups have them. Your solution is to to insult all, that is going to be effective. People like this only will here other Christians and your attitude does not make us want to talk to them about their mistakes; but, then you are like them.


This is a very good point, this group does not speak for all Christians, or all types of Christians, I'm also Christian and this group does not speak for me.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear Shamatt,

The bigotry is in you also. Why do you assume this group speaks for all Christians, they surely do not speak for me and I am a Christian. You pick some moronic group and then try and pin them on me and other Christians. Did Stalin speak for you? He was an atheist. The Pope doesn't speak for me either not idiots like Jim Jones. There are plenty of idiots to go around, all groups have them. Your solution is to to insult all, that is going to be effective. People like this only will here other Christians and your attitude does not make us want to talk to them about their mistakes; but, then you are like them.


OK, I conceed that I should perhaps have said "Christian Group" and not "the Christians" in the title. I'm just so sick off seeing this sort of crap to be honest.

Life is exciting at the moment, changes are coming to us all in many ways. I just get the feeling it is 5 steps forwards, 4 steps back sometimges. This dissapoints me.

So appologies to all those Christians who are not homophobic.

Shame on those that are.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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Dear Shamatt,

I would like to explain where I am coming from. I started a thread on the idiot Camping and his May 21st false prophesy, check my profile and you can find it under threads that I began. I then had atheists tell me that I wasn't being very Christian for calling the guy and idiot and a false prophet. People group us all together and then we are stopped from addressing them, that is not productive. How can we educate others who claim to be Christians is reason is not heard because of how harshly they are attacked by non-believers?

There was a thread somewhere on the burning down of Coptic churches in Egypt, go read what some loving humanists said, they said they should all be burnt down. Wow, loving words from atheists. Maybe, just a thought, we all tone down the rhetoric and work at correcting those who hold beliefs similar to our own. What if we respond to intolerance regardless of the group. I will do my part, how bout you? When you read someone calling all Christians idiots or hateful or whatever, will you correct fellow non-believers?

Actually, you have given me an idea. What if people who were not trolls or haters got together and agreed to respond to those who are as a group. We deal with the Christians and you and yours with the non-believers. Think about how much more pleasant it would be if those who write flaming hatred would quiet themselves when not supported. Just a thought.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:29 PM
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I fully agree. The fact remains however that most of those truly opposed to gay marriage are so for primarily religious reasons. Now its true that these are fundamentalists, not the ordinary moderate religious folks, but still there are no secular reasons to oppose gay marriage or same sex interaction of any kind.

Not only does the Bible say that homosexuality is an abomination but it says that those who indulge in it are to be killed, as with adultery, losing your virginity before being married, working on the Sabbath, worshiping a god other than Yahweh, etc, etc, etc. Most Christians may have set aside that sort of Old Testament barbarism but some it seems have not.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear Shamatt,

I would like to explain where I am coming from. I started a thread on the idiot Camping and his May 21st false prophesy, check my profile and you can find it under threads that I began. I then had atheists tell me that I wasn't being very Christian for calling the guy and idiot and a false prophet. People group us all together and then we are stopped from addressing them, that is not productive. How can we educate others who claim to be Christians is reason is not heard because of how harshly they are attacked by non-believers?

There was a thread somewhere on the burning down of Coptic churches in Egypt, go read what some loving humanists said, they said they should all be burnt down. Wow, loving words from atheists. Maybe, just a thought, we all tone down the rhetoric and work at correcting those who hold beliefs similar to our own. What if we respond to intolerance regardless of the group. I will do my part, how bout you? When you read someone calling all Christians idiots or hateful or whatever, will you correct fellow non-believers?

Actually, you have given me an idea. What if people who were not trolls or haters got together and agreed to respond to those who are as a group. We deal with the Christians and you and yours with the non-believers. Think about how much more pleasant it would be if those who write flaming hatred would quiet themselves when not supported. Just a thought.


Fair point, and I wouldn't dissagree. I still feel that in this enlightened day and age I should be able to point out homophobia when it rears it's ugly head.

Did you read the thread I posted directly above yours?



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