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Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by FatedAxion
Cant say I disagree personally. But if it is her body, her choice, then why is it the man's responsibility?
Originally posted by Denco
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by FatedAxion
Cant say I disagree personally. But if it is her body, her choice, then why is it the man's responsibility?
It is NOT the mans responsibility. He can waive his parental rights once the baby is born, just as easily as a woman can get an abortion. Nobody forces anyone to sign a birth certificate.
There are all kinds of folks in this world, the kind who believe that it's not alright for women to abort and the kind who do, the kind who believe that it's not okay for men to murder their own child and the kind who do. A fact is that it is legal for some women to murder their own child, apparently another fact is that men feel that it is unfair to them that they aren't legally able to murder their own child. It seems that what we have here are some men who want the right to murder their own child because to them, it's the fair and right thing to do.
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
Let's ignore his method and deal with the bigger question.
If infanticide/feticide/child murder is legal for one parent, why not the other? It is simple fairness.
Precisely the point of the editorial. Socially programmed are easily confused.
Originally posted by deesul69
Originally posted by Denco
Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by FatedAxion
Cant say I disagree personally. But if it is her body, her choice, then why is it the man's responsibility?
It is NOT the mans responsibility. He can waive his parental rights once the baby is born, just as easily as a woman can get an abortion. Nobody forces anyone to sign a birth certificate.
Depends on the state. Here in Illinois, a man can be forced to take a paternity test and ordered to pay child support. If he doesn't pay, he can be jailed.
I think it's good, because a man should be responsible for a life he created, whether he wants to or not. Should have thought about that before he decided to have sex. That's why you should always pull out. The money shot's more fun anyway!!
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by Wolvo
reply to post by CobraCommander
Personally i dont see how its the womens liability? Well 100 percent anyway, takes two to tango. Yes both should take precautions, and both are to blame for the pregnancy. But its up to the women then to keep the child, if you were dead certain you Didnt want a child, you would of used protection. So would the women.
But what about men who do want the child? Can they sue for damages if the woman aborts?
Originally posted by Denco
It is NOT the mans responsibility. He can waive his parental rights once the baby is born, just as easily as a woman can get an abortion. Nobody forces anyone to sign a birth certificate.
Originally posted by ldyserenity
They can get a court injunction and claim all custody of the child...then the woman can be sued for child support. It's been done before.
Originally posted by deesul69
I think it's good, because a man should be responsible for a life he created, whether he wants to or not. Should have thought about that before he decided to have sex. That's why you should always pull out. The money shot's more fun anyway!!
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Originally posted by deesul69
I think it's good, because a man should be responsible for a life he created, whether he wants to or not. Should have thought about that before he decided to have sex. That's why you should always pull out. The money shot's more fun anyway!!
If he created the life, then his consent should be required before the woman can have an abortion.
Originally posted by deesul69
reply to post by TheOrangeBrood
Well, Illinois unforunately is disgustingly progressive, with idiotic lawmakers sabotaging their own efforts!! But, that is slowly changing. And more and more people are leaning to the right with their votes.
I do completely agree, supporting the child is most important, and I don't just mean financially. Actually being a father is the most important thing for the child. But, there are many men out there that are peices of crap, and at least they can be forced to financially support the child.
Please don't use derogatory stereotypes to insult me. I wouldn't imply that somebody is thinking backwards and relate that to their sexual preference, so I expect the same respect. There's no room for descrimination on ATS.