Why is abortion illegal for men but not women?, page 1

Now before we get off on the wrong foot here, I want to say that clearly the man who is the subject of the news article below was wrong in his actions. You can't go violently attacking people in a civilized society. But having said that, I can empathize with the man, and would like to examine the deeper socio-economic issues behind this news brief.

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reply to post by CobraCommander

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Abortion is not illegal for a man it is impossible!

Performing an abortion, in the manner as been reported on, would be illegal for both a man and a women equally.

S 125.40 Abortion in the second degree.
A person is guilty of abortion in the second degree when he commits an
abortional act upon a female, unless such abortional act is justifiable
pursuant to subdivision three of section 125.05.
Abortion in the second degree is a class E felony.

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But this is NY State Law, is this Liberty, NY?

I think you are missing the point of what the author was saying. But to your point then. Why is it LESS illegal for a woman to abort outside of a clinic?

I don't think it is less legal but a different law all together. . .
Plus men can waive there parental rights to the child.
Punching a pregnant women in the stomach is wrong on many levels.

reply to post by AnteBellum

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I think you are missing the point of what the author was saying. But to your point then. Why is it LESS illegal for a woman to abort outside of a clinic?

reply to post by CobraCommander

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That blog is Crazy, no way can a man abort a child like that ever. Obviously its the womens choice. Hitting a women like that should be classed as actual bodily harm. The title of this thread confused me, and personaly think its a very odd title and question =S lol self aborting for a girl is dangerous but i think it would be classed as self harm, and that isnt illegal.

reply to post by Wolvo

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It's meant to confuse by taking two different topics and combing them into one... A: assault and battery vs B: the right for a man to have some say in whether a woman chooses to have an abortion or have the baby. The meshing of these two topics is for shock-value and is quite disgusting.

reply to post by Wolvo

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He's not justifying the method the attacker used. But he is pointing out that there are much deeper issues behind the reported attack. Why should a man be forced by law to be a father, when women have no such obligation?

reply to post by gandhi

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No one is saying the attack itself was not illegal.

reply to post by LadySkadi

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I don't think it was for shock value at all. This is reality. If a man does not want to be a father, the only thing he can do is try to kill the baby himself.

I dare say that if he could not be sued for child support, he never would have laid a hand on that woman.

Originally posted by CobraCommander
reply to post by Wolvo

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He's not justifying the method the attacker used. But he is pointing out that there are much deeper issues behind the reported attack. Why should a man be forced by law to be a father, when women have no such obligation?

omg, thats just sick, if you Didnt want to be a father? Maybe you should of put something on the end of it? Bit late once you concieve to have second thoughts (for a bloke).

reply to post by Wolvo

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Did you actually read the article? The author points out the bias of birth control options as well.

Of course, there is the tired old excuse that the man should wear a condom if he does not want to be a father. Sorry folks, that # don't fly with me. Women have far more choices when it comes to birth control, up to and including termination of a pregnancy (or simply insisting that the man wear a condom in the first place.) With rights comes responsibility. Why should the man be responsible for the WOMAN'S CHOICE? It is not a shared responsibility, it is not a mutual decision, it is the woman's choice, plain and simple, as this news article makes abundantly clear. The woman is responsible for her own body, and the man has NO RIGHTS over whether or not "his" child is brought into the world.

reply to post by FatedAxion

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Cant say I disagree personally. But if it is her body, her choice, then why is it the man's responsibility?

reply to post by CobraCommander

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Personally i dont see how its the womens liability? Well 100 percent anyway, takes two to tango. Yes both should take precautions, and both are to blame for the pregnancy. But its up to the women then to keep the child, if you were dead certain you Didnt want a child, you would of used protection. So would the women.

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